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agar recipe question
#18989965 - 10/17/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive got plenty of agar ,but im out of LME that im use to using,, is there anything simple i can substitute for it so i dont have to order more... does brf/wbsf work? or maybe cornstarch? i think i have these already.. thanks
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#18990310 - 10/17/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldn't use BRF. Potatos can be cut up and simmered for their starch to make something like PDA(potoato dextrose agar) You can also use potato flakes. Some people get away with karo agar. Look at Frank's agar journal
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
#18991156 - 10/17/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brown rice flour, or any grain flour, works quite well! I use grainwater agar for all agar- When none is handy I simply blend BRF thoroughly into water, let the sediment settle, and use the 'milky' water. This can result in nutrient-dilute agar if you don't use a good bit of BRF per water, so boiling the BRF into the water a bit can ensure richer solution (and perhaps shorten sterilization time by a few minutes if agar is added and sterilized right after boiling).
PDA (potato-dextrose agar) is the same thing, but requires another sugar (dextrose) since the potatoes aren't quite enough. This clearly isn't the case for grains.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Violet]
#18991234 - 10/17/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Violet said: Brown rice flour, or any grain flour, works quite well! I use grainwater agar for all agar- When none is handy I simply blend BRF thoroughly into water, let the sediment settle, and use the 'milky' water. This can result in nutrient-dilute agar if you don't use a good bit of BRF per water, so boiling the BRF into the water a bit can ensure richer solution (and perhaps shorten sterilization time by a few minutes if agar is added and sterilized right after boiling).
PDA (potato-dextrose agar) is the same thing, but requires another sugar (dextrose) since the potatoes aren't quite enough. This clearly isn't the case for grains.
Exactly what violet said, be careful though as you can make your agar TOO nutritious and cause stalled growth for your mycelium and increased growth for contaminates. Use 2 grams of BRF and boil in 500 ml of water, add 10 grams agar, and 1 gram karo.
I personally use 500ml water with 300 grams of potatos thrown in. I like to use a peeler to make the potato slices super thin. Boil that for 10 minutes. Strain out the chunks of potatos, add 9 grams agar, and 1 gram of karo.
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Brf agar
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#18991262 - 10/17/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: Brf agar 
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Too nutritious
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#18991343 - 10/17/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No it's not, lol. For that matter, you control/effect the concentration, just like using 6,9,or 12g of malt extract in agar. So I don't see why it's logical to say that using a certain material ensures a too-nutritious mix.
Some people tell me grainwater agar is too nutritious, others tell me it's just dirty water, all of them think they represent the cutting edge of myco knowledge... where are the opinions from simple experience?
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Violet]
#18991354 - 10/17/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess your right Just dilute it
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Violet]
#18991401 - 10/17/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Violet said: No it's not, lol. For that matter, you control/effect the concentration, just like using 6,9,or 12g of malt extract in agar. So I don't see why it's logical to say that using a certain material ensures a too-nutritious mix.
It isn't too nutritious, he obviously has not tried and it just trying to be SUPER GROWMAN. I made a agar recipe that RR said was too nutritious and at first nothing grew on the plates, no contams or mycelium. Then one week later the plates just exploded with growth. I added like 10 grams dog food, 12 grams agar, 750 ml water, 2.5 grams BRF, and some karo. SO no, i doubt just plain agar and BRF would be considered too nutritious.
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Hell yeah I am trying to be SUPER GROWMAN! Aren't we all?
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#18991469 - 10/17/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: Hell yeah I am trying to be SUPER GROWMAN! Aren't we all?
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good ideas, i was use to using 10g agar 9g LME without issues,, i forgot about being able to use dogfood.. thanks
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#18993030 - 10/17/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bakenast said: ive got plenty of agar ,but im out of LME that im use to using,, is there anything simple i can substitute for it so i dont have to order more... does brf/wbsf work? or maybe cornstarch? i think i have these already.. thanks
My agar recipe thread might provide some good ideas
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ya, i read seen that thread are the list recipes youve tried? or were planning to try?? thanks
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ya, i read seen that thread are the list recipes youve tried? or were planning to try?? thanks
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19010191 - 10/21/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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relax, annie has ya covered on this.
sounds like ya need fert agar....
these pics should explain everything. hurry and gather these things, its cheap fast and easy.

youll need ferts, some grains/ or RGS, and some PP5 containers.once gathered, mix your fert water as directed. 10-10-10 is good.

once mixed, add the fert water to grain, and microwave boil. add agar. dont over do it, and dont forget to stir.

strain in a loose screen strainer, and bottle up!

works on many fungi , serves lots. germs spore fast, and encourages a good rhizo. full fruits easily, even with MS.

fert agar, annies choice for over 25 yrs. imagine fert agar and you..............
try it today, and, remember, " once ya fert, ya never revert"
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looks interesting, what the heck is fert? lol
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19012099 - 10/22/13 03:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't ask
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19012627 - 10/22/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NPK fertilizer............available anywhere.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19013017 - 10/22/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: Don't ask 
QFT
I thought the whole fert thing was to help the bacteria that in turn help the myc(in theory ). What the fuck sense would it make to use it in your Agar which has no bacteria because it's still on the sterile side of cultivation? It's not like your rhizos will grow better...
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
#19013337 - 10/22/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok, lets see what rhizo your agar does then......

i have fert agar, i have rhizos' i have pics. your opinion, has been noted.
in the process , of making agar, and work time, and, considering the grains are bacteria rife. there is plenty of time for a pre break down thru bacteria. it does not have to be rotted to rancid for days, to have its desired qualities.
bottom line. lots of agars. consider fert WBR agar. it works.
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im gonna try this, already have the fertilizer, sounds insteresting.. and finally got lme to use just in case... thanks everyone!
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19018123 - 10/23/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bakenast said: im gonna try this, already have the fertilizer, sounds insteresting.. and finally got lme to use just in case... thanks everyone!
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There is absolutely no need for fertilizer in agar. At the very best, it's pointless.
There is absolutely zero evidence that ferts are beneficial to myc growth on agar. Whatever pic is posted with great growth using ferts, hundreds just like can be posted without ferts.
Just make normal agar like everyone else does and move on.
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im only gonna try it on a few plates,to test, worth a shot,, i got my LME finally that i was use to using. to make the rest of my plates
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19020794 - 10/23/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's some cobweb mold on LME with no fert.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
#19020889 - 10/23/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anne has left the building...so he won't be commenting, but I was going to say there was a guy who did a side by side race between plain old grain soak-water agar versus 'fert-agar. The grain soak-water handily beat the fert in the end.
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interesting, i never new that using fertlizer was possible with results, good idea if it works anyways,
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InTheBiggun said: Anne has left the building...so he won't be commenting
Bout time
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19024051 - 10/24/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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where did he go, wasnt he a legit poster?
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19024057 - 10/24/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19024241 - 10/24/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use oatmeal flakes then strain out the juice, add agar, stir,pour, sterilize.
I use 1/2 pint jars not agar plates.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bishlap]
#19024534 - 10/24/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anne is the biggest known troll here. Second most ignored member on the whole shroomery with so few posts and only 5 months here that's quite a feat. She is always trying to come of to newbies as king-mushroom but all she has ever posted is some scrawny half limp BS.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
#19024613 - 10/24/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't know this was the talk-about-anne-thread. Everyone has a different perspective. Almost everyone in this world is under the spell of their mind, believing they see the truth when others from a different angle see a different reality. Be careful not to tunnel-vision your mind with bias in copy-catting the spin of others.
Ferts are in my agar not because I specifically put it there for the agar but because, like I mentioned above, I use the water from grain preparations as agar – the ferts are used for my grain prep. It's one matter to determine if there are any benefits, of which I've not noticed any sure ones, but another matter altogether to pretend that it hurts results. Hearsay about some dude's experiment (on a now-closed somewhat unscientific home myco forum that others often made fun of around here for this very reason) is the type of anecdote that we on Shroomery throw-out multiple times everyday. For instance, there is no knowledge of whether or not too much ferts were used creating a slight "nitrogen-burn" environment for the mycelium causing it to perform slightly slower, or any of many variable questions unanswered.
Rest assured you can experiment with ferts if you want without it ruining or negatively effecting your grow process at all. My mycelium rip thru everything with equal extreme vigor, ferts and no ferts.
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Edited by Violet (10/24/13 09:36 AM)
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Violet]
#19024634 - 10/24/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure violet, but almost every fert is made by an organization that shouldn't be supported (I won't go into that) Ferts are unnecessary on your lawn let alone in mycology. Even if it did give a slight boost it's not worth the environmental hazard, support of companies like monsanto, and the cost.
It's not an about Anne thread but the OP was asking about the advice Anne had left in his thread, so it's valid to be discussed.
For the sake of helping a new grower it's really not fair to throw topics that are constantly obfuscated and that trained mycologists are having a hard time figuring out on someone who's just getting started.
There's a reason things look the way they do. If you go in a forest the world around an oak will look like an oak and grow in a place that it can be successful. Similarly most of our grows here look the same, we are all oak trees. If you and Anne want to revolutionize the hobby, and bring some maples into the forest, then you're going to need some extraordinary evidence and not just a few blurry pictures of "ship in a bottle" cultures and a few shrooms grown in cups. Casing grains is nothing new and neither is plastic. It's just a novel way to organize it.
Everyone is eagerly awaiting you and Anne's new threads. Perhaps you two will be the next Andrew Wakefield's of the mycology field.
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Are you two gonna fuck? or what? Jesus. Get a room.
just playin.
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How right you are Jedi... corrected.
Was a pre-coffee post..
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
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Honestly I also have some serious issues with the companies that produce most of this product. The main reason I dislike it is because of how they subtly manipulate the world's agriculture to incresingly force their product on the world as the fertilization method despite how clearly harmful it is for soils and the effect on the environment it can have when directly exposed. But this applies to their widespread common use for plants, not this.
It undeniably comes down to very unclear epistemic issues so we must consider these things best we can. For one, using the ferts as described in my prep process results in them being neutralized by the time both the bacterial pre-ferment and many mushroom flushes are done. Almost regardless of how you dispose of the cakes the ferts are not exposed to the environment as such. Secondly, this uses an extremely small amount of it. Not even the smallest undetectable fraction of fert sales will ever be attributed to this use. This means that most people can buy more than they'll use in their lives by giving less than a dollar in margin to any company. Plus, it's possible to consider a couple ways that this may be using their product "against" them so-to-speak. Thirdly, the differences I see are not so slight, and after deflating the applicable severity of the prior points it seems much more in reach to outweigh the potential cons. Some of my increased potency is due to the combined factors of nutrient density, reduced colony size, consolidation, multiple flushing, and solid genes. But even all of these combined do not truly account for the ~2x potency I've become accustomed to.
The main thing I would like to point out is this: Just about everyone who speaks out against the use of ferts as such isn't doing so out of their own experience but is parroting the words of myco forum heads & community homies they look up to, most of which also have not even tried using as such and say so. I don't see why such persons waste their time on topics like this. What is appropriate is finding out not bashing-by-default based on the snarky words of a few.
As for the last part... As I've said to Stromrider, I don't get why people are tying me in with Anne. You should know better than to think that applies to me. And for that matter it doesn't even apply to Anne the way hateful people (or rather as mostly seems to be the case, new people) like to pretend. There's only one thing to say about that matter: While some were making an enemy and etching onto the record a very premature and unscientific stance, learning and gaining nothing, I made a friend and learned tons.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Violet]
#19026961 - 10/24/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The list of what works for agar is huge...and includes lots of "weird" additives, such dogfood, vegetables, you name it. Thousands of possible additives can work, including fertilizer apparently.
Its down to whats convenient for the grower.
The ancient tried and provens like PDA, MEA etc work excellently, but so do a pile of other ingredients.
I mentioned the side by side comparison between fert-agar and non-fert, because it was done with care by an experienced grower who was genuinely interested in the results. It clearly showed that fert-agar worked, but was inferior to grain soak water agar.
That may not convince you, and I respect that.
Use whatever works for you.
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I know you shouldn't be tied with Anne because after all your post are generally well thought out, well written, and delivered politely. Everything Anne 's post are not. Those facts aside most users still tie you with Anne 
Violet just because we don't agree on everything about mycology doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion and enjoy reading your post. I especially enjoyed your post about BE yesterday
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19027243 - 10/24/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry to be off topic but one question. How do you validate twice as potent? That's like saying 80 feels twice as hot as 40 or 50. I'm sure it was done with an isolate and you honestly feel like they're more potent but how do you come up with twice as potent. Does it feel twice, are there twice as many grams of actives when you extract from with and without?
Most people worth their salt say the gene level determines the amount of actives produced regardless of environment as long as the environment is sufficient. Not like nutrients that get uptook are going to lead to a signal cascade at a cellular level to produce more actives.
You dodge the point of needlessly advising fertilizers to new growers and that combined with the "most potent" delusion that they become twice as potent helps get these newbs hooked. Most newbs are looking for ways to get better potency and then boom one of two people usually shows up hence your linkage to anne. I don't doubt that you're not her but you work on the same motives.
Conspiracy time. Feed new grower Fert=2x potency when they're unable to discern trusted vs untrusted sources and good science from pseudoscience. A lot of new growers get fumbled into being less than they can be so maybe your motives are against mush-cult. I could see talking about ferts to seasoned vets but in a way you have tried and now are shut out because the original way you presented your evidence is laughable compared to the scientific paradigms. The avocation is always to your nay sayers "well have you tried it?" If I said you get better gas mileage with your seat belt off and had some low quality proof photos would you still try it?
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
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I don't know why you guys continue to battle Violet over this stuff.
It's a lose/lose for everyone.
I can't convince a Christian that God does not exist and a Christian can't convince me that it does. That's what these debates sound like to me.
Anyone who wants to follow Violet should do so.
If Violets methods suck, then the evidence will present itself through multiple experiments by multiple people.
Violet, you can't awaken those who refuse to awaken. I don't understand why you continue to try.
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SpitballJedi said: I don't know why you guys continue to battle Violet over this stuff.
It's a lose/lose for everyone.
I can't convince a Christian that God does not exist and a Christian can't convince me that it does. That's what these debates sound like to me.
Anyone who wants to follow Violet should do so.
If Violets methods suck, then the evidence will present itself through multiple experiments by multiple people.
Violet, you can't awaken those who refuse to awaken. I don't understand why you continue to try.
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SpitballJedi said: I don't know why you guys continue to battle Violet over this stuff.
It's a lose/lose for everyone.
I can't convince a Christian that God does not exist and a Christian can't convince me that it does. That's what these debates sound like to me.
Anyone who wants to follow Violet should do so.
If Violets methods suck, then the evidence will present itself through multiple experiments by multiple people.
Violet, you can't awaken those who refuse to awaken. I don't understand why you continue to try.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
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Questions, even leading to debate aren't such a bad thing.
It doesn't have to get personal or nasty. A little passion in opinion is acceptable.
Not every debate is an argument...
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That is true biggun. I have learned a lot by reading people's debates on here and being a part of them myself. I enjoy hearing how other people do things even I don't agree
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anne halonium
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19031369 - 10/25/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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when the cat is away, the mice will play....
nice try peeps.
bottom line, the stuff works.

GFA ( grain fert agars)
in the new age, new choices abound.
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nice pics, how come you use them little bottles?
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19032362 - 10/25/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bakenast said: nice pics, how come you use them little bottles?
actually those are 1/2 litre polycarbonate culture bottles. surface area a little more than a 110mm standard plate.
no breakage, no polyfilm flypaper episodes, fast slurrys in the 500 ml, size.....
our lab ops are all plastic ( PP5 and polycarbonate) and , 100% LED light.
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so do you just screw the lid on tight or leave it slightly loose? when letting it colonize
i like the slurry idea too!
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19032510 - 10/25/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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loose lids..........
you seem like your interested in the more advanced type of teks/ equip.
have you seen " violet tek"?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18135103
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link doesnt work on my end,,,
i like the little bottle idea, would make it easy to make a agar lc out of it,
I meant do you screw the lids on tight would there still be enought air in jar to colonize the agar...
wonder if a syringe filter drilled and stuck on the cap would be a good idea then screw on tight,, thanks
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19032595 - 10/25/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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polycarbs are designed to be loose screw lids.......... as you will note from the pic, there is no shortage of air. those grow out in about a week .........
violet tek is easy to find , with almost 23k hits, it comes up every few days, or find it thru violets threads....
35 yrs growing, pro physics ( light) lab and bio tech lab experience, add in advanced equip, and, you can see why im the wicked witch of the shroomery.........
reading above, i see youve met the winged monkeys.....
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sorry im a lil confused.. so after innoculating the agar you just screw the lid on loose correct ? This is enought to keep out contaminents..
im actually got some small pp5 bottles that i could use, i just dont know if there caps are pp5 as well.. lol
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ya observe.........

full fruits.......nothing is suffocating.
spores germ fast.

ive used all the popular agars. i choose fert agar for the performance, and ,others do too.
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fert-- the only type i have is npk 12-12-12 would this work you think
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19032730 - 10/25/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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it would be excellent.
mix as directed, soak seeds, or, just use rice flour even........
for the BRF , use about 1/4 cup per qt.
it can be made in quantity, then froze and reheated as needed.
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