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Help a noobie identify this Amanita?
    #18989964 - 10/17/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hello, basically a noobie here. I've had an interest is mycology for a little while. But it recently sparked back when my Grandmother (who knows of my interest) Randomly sent me these picture of the "cool mushrooms" she found at her campsite! I had a dear lord face when I saw that they were an Amanita variety. So I have pics, and only pics to go by so I am very sorry I cannot handle them in person. I had her pick one and take some shots for me. I believe this is Amanita Frostiana. However I just want to be sure it is not a Guessowii or Persicina variant of the Amanita Muscaria. Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: iAurorAi]
    #18989987 - 10/17/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

where are you op? it has the color of a.persicina, but i cant see any rings at the base of any of them....and the stems seems a bit skinny for persicina also.


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: iAurorAi]
    #18989988 - 10/17/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would call those Amanita muscaria var. persicina


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18989998 - 10/17/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid: i see now, sorry for the second guessing :thumbup:


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18990004 - 10/17/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These were in Southern PA


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18990006 - 10/17/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't say I'd put money on it, but I'm fairly confident in the ID.


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18990021 - 10/17/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cool, thanks alot :smile: I just think the stipe is fairly thin to be muscaria but what do I know :P. I wish she'd have cleaned the end off, but im not going to bug her anymore :laugh: Really wish I could handle them!


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18990027 - 10/17/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i was just second guessing myself because i find persicina here in ga and those that op has, the caps look VERY thick, stem looks a little skinny, that last pics cap is very yellow, and i thought i saw a volva in a picture and i never see that here until i dig them up a bit...but im no TI, still learning :grin:


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18990036 - 10/17/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That doesn't mean you can't be right or I can't be wrong.


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18990046 - 10/17/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Also notice the collar so high up. Seems to be more defining of Frostiana. However The Persicina LOVES pines so I dont know xD


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: iAurorAi]
    #18990053 - 10/17/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i have a pic of a mature persicina from two days ago, to compare, if you dont mind me posting it here op?


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18990230 - 10/17/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It looks like persicina, but the location makes me think guessowii. The melon color on the young one and in the middle of the larger ones is what makes me lean towards persicina, but the location is a bit north for persicina.


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18990357 - 10/17/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do they look a little bit dry to you?  Could that cause the stem to "skinny up"?  I have another thread with photos that were IDd as persicina.  Not by a TI, though.  I went back and picked another bunch.  My husband thinks I'm nuts.  Anyway, I soooo want to eat them, but for now just watching them dry out.


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18990601 - 10/17/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Post away man! No problem here!


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: isic]
    #18990626 - 10/17/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

isic said:
It looks like persicina, but the location makes me think guessowii. The melon color on the young one and in the middle of the larger ones is what makes me lean towards persicina, but the location is a bit north for persicina.



well, persicina range is up to NY/NJ.... but they look a bit off for amanita persicina.... anyone else?


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18990639 - 10/17/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)




....they just seem very different, i know every mushroom is not the same but they look like considerable differences to me....but what do i know lol :justdontknow:


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: bamajoneses]
    #18990705 - 10/17/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do they look a little bit dry to you?  Could that cause the stem to "skinny up"?  I have another thread with photos that were IDd as persicina.  Not by a TI, though.  I went back and picked another bunch.  My husband thinks I'm nuts.  Anyway, I soooo want to eat them, or now just watching them dry out.



Lol, that was the ones Jet, Ganzig and myself were looking at :smile: and yes...those were definitely amanita persicina


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Re: Help a noobie identify this Amanita? [Re: art2312]
    #18993346 - 10/17/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, I know.  And thanks.  Going on my new dehydrator tomorrow.  Thanks for just confirming again.  It's weird, I know there is nothing else it could be, just making really, really, REALLY sure!

Took a hike in the rain today.  Maybe you guys can help me ID these.  Working on new posts now.


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