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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989376 - 10/17/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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are that number per capita? i don't see how that can be accurate unless every else has about the same rate of gun deaths.

i really don't believe that, i don't have a source, but i remember seeing a study show that australia has more gun crime than the US (australia has outlawed guns)




Nope, I did make up the 2.5 to fit with the thread.... actually I researched this in the past, and at about four years ago the USA had eight times more gun deaths per capita than Australia.

Of course, the comparable rate of murder in general isnt 1:8. But still, the USA/Australia differenec was about four to one anyway.

The sad fact is, a lot of people get murdered in the USA, more than just about any other country.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989394 - 10/17/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here we go, Wiki has done the research more recently for me.

Homicide rates *by firearm per 100,000 people

United Kingdom 0.04
Australia 0.13
United States 3.6

Note that these are only confirmed homicides The real figure would be far greater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989417 - 10/17/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the sources all comes from a gun control website. http://www.gunpolicy.org/about


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989430 - 10/17/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sweet ill give it a read and see what I can find. 

I just LOVe shooting guns.  There is just a feeling when shooting a high powered rifle its so fun at the same time but only when safety comes first.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18989435 - 10/17/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'm sorry i'm just a bit skeptical of a data from that gun control site specifically from australia.

of course you should be safe with guns, but the answer is not prohibition.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989437 - 10/17/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That may be so, but they reflect my own independant research four years ago, NOT taken from Wiki, Gun Control or anything like that, but crime statistic analysis. There's no point denying the figures. The ready availability of guns in the USA is reflected in the number of gun homicides. Its really that simple.

Ive heard all the arguements before, especially about 'how will we defend ourselves when the criminals have the guns but citizens dont".... well, the criminals will have the guns regardless. Gun control wont stop thhem getting firarms in the sightest.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989445 - 10/17/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'm not denying it. i'm just pointing out what the source is.

it doesn't really matter though, the great thing about gun control is that there are so many different countries that go about it differently. if you don't want guns legal there are places to go to be happy... if only drugs were like that lol


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989454 - 10/17/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SurReality said:if you don't want guns legal there are places to go to be happy... if only drugs were like that lol




Exactly. If you want a greater chance of staying alive, leave the USA. I'm glad we agree.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989473 - 10/17/13 03:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SurReality said:if you don't want guns legal there are places to go to be happy... if only drugs were like that lol




Exactly. If you want a greater chance of staying alive, leave the USA. I'm glad we agree.




Sweet I'll be staying.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18989493 - 10/17/13 03:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

rest in peace, wigga


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989631 - 10/17/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rest in peace, wigga




Is that a personalism? Cute.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18989686 - 10/17/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it might be worth checking out gun crime stats instead of just homicide/deaths. also homicide rates instead of just gun homicides.

besides if australia has a 0.1% gun homicide while US has 0.3%, i think i take my "chances."


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989942 - 10/17/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it might be worth checking out gun crime stats instead of just homicide/deaths. also homicide rates instead of just gun homicides.

besides if australia has a 0.1% gun homicide while US has 0.3%, i think i take my "chances."



Lol I thought that was a valid link you procured lol my bad.

Also its not(not you) just people getting shot, it has a lot to do on where they are and what they are doing.  You don't just walk in the Hood to and get shot either, if your going ina nd your straight and not a threat, you will have No issues. Some people are aggressors with guns that find other aggressors with guns lol

Bout 90% of the time your not getting shot to get shot.


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