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OfflinePsycho Gnome
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Gymnopilus Luteus look alikes
    #18989368 - 10/17/13 01:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So, I thought I had found them, but I didn't. What I found were these: Pholiota Alnicola, I think. The main reason for the error was that the first mushroom I discovered had grown a little deformed and I thought perhaps this accounted for the lack of ring on the stipe. But the main thing that had me fooled was the smell. These mushrooms smell delicious! Sweet, subtly fruity with another hard to describe note. Anise like would not be too far fetched. I found a second cluster that was all pins and buttons, so once again, I found myself making inferences based on the fact that they were immature. In my defense, I wanted to wait until I got them home to dissect the cluster and decide for sure and when I got here I realized I was mistaken. The things that gave it away were the fact that there is no ring and, more obviously, none of the stipes were bulbous and had a strange woody cork-like character working from the base up. I think I have my head straight now, but I'm asking if anyone knows some more look alikes I might encounter here in Wisconsin? I've learned my galerinas quite well and saw A LOT of them everywhere this week. I read that there's a cortinarius look alike, but the species wasn't given. Here's some pictures for any noobs like me that are trying to learn,along with a little warning, these seem pretty close in many ways, and you really need EVERY feature to match up on these gymnos!!!


http://http://http://http://


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Re: Gymnopilus Luteus look alikes [Re: Psycho Gnome] * 1
    #18989451 - 10/17/13 02:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Pholiota is easy to tell from Gymnopilus because if you wet your finger and touch a Pholiota cap, it will be slimy.

Also spore color does not overlap.

Also look for bitter taste in gyms and remember that while gyms have roughened spores with no germ pore , Pholiota have smooth spores with a germ pore.  But often in Pholiota the germ pore is too small to see without a scanning electron microscope.


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Re: Gymnopilus Luteus look alikes [Re: Psycho Gnome]
    #18989484 - 10/17/13 03:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Psycho Gnome said:
So, I thought I had found them, but I didn't. What I found were these: Pholiota Alnicola, I think. The main reason for the error was that the first mushroom I discovered had grown a little deformed and I thought perhaps this accounted for the lack of ring on the stipe. But the main thing that had me fooled was the smell. These mushrooms smell delicious! Sweet, subtly fruity with another hard to describe note. Anise like would not be too far fetched. I found a second cluster that was all pins and buttons, so once again, I found myself making inferences based on the fact that they were immature. In my defense, I wanted to wait until I got them home to dissect the cluster and decide for sure and when I got here I realized I was mistaken. The things that gave it away were the fact that there is no ring and, more obviously, none of the stipes were bulbous and had a strange woody cork-like character working from the base up. I think I have my head straight now, but I'm asking if anyone knows some more look alikes I might encounter here in Wisconsin? I've learned my galerinas quite well and saw A LOT of them everywhere this week. I read that there's a cortinarius look alike, but the species wasn't given. Here's some pictures for any noobs like me that are trying to learn,along with a little warning, these seem pretty close in many ways, and you really need EVERY feature to match up on these gymnos!!!


http://http://http://http://



Gotta love Pholiota lol! I have a bunch of pics of these neat looking ones too. Good luck finding luteus!


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Re: Gymnopilus Luteus look alikes [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18989485 - 10/17/13 03:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Pholiota is easy to tell from Gymnopilus because if you wet your finger and touch a Pholiota cap, it will be slimy.

Also spore color does not overlap.

Also look for bitter taste in gyms and remember that while gyms have roughened spores with no germ pore , Pholiota have smooth spores with a germ pore.  But often in Pholiota the germ pore is too small to see without a scanning electron microscope.



Really good info as always Alan TY!


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Re: Gymnopilus Luteus look alikes [Re: xfsketch]
    #18989881 - 10/17/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the responses guys! The spore print kind of tricked me out  because it was a rusty orange color, which could be similar to a spectabilis, but not a luteus. I'm gonna make a little workbook with some notes in it before I go out picking anything again. The first one I picked was dryer and the cap had a satiny smooth feel to it, also confusing, but I did notice two days later after some rains that these felt sticky to the touch. And washing them yielded a slimy feel. Definitely some good info!
Do you know of the cortinarius or other potential look alikes for the luteus Alan?
And for real xfsketch on the pholiotas! I found some killer looking scalycaps the other day that were very photogenic!


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Re: Gymnopilus Luteus look alikes [Re: Psycho Gnome]
    #18992491 - 10/17/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

All Gymnopilus species have a rusty orange spore print. 

Lookalikes are in the eye of the beholder, it is hard for me to say what would look like Gymnopilus luteus to you.

Cortinarius always grow from the ground because they are mycorrhizal; Gymnopilus always grow from wood because they are saprotrophic.  Sometimes on buried wood though.


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