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Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid?
#18989332 - 10/17/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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in like just knowing illuminati and black magick type stuff and information is just a second away is insane, but i always just keep it to myself, in the back of my head since I really don't wish to think about it.
Do these thoughts happen to everyone? In my earlier trips it never came up, and from what my friends tell me they haven't gotten similar thoughts, and others I feel just don't like to talk about it for whatever reason.
On a vaguer note, is it bad to look into these type of thoughts, or paranoid/bad-trip thoughts in general from an analytic view? It's interesting stuff when I'm tripping but is it bad to think of such dark thoughts? its only really come up in my last trip, and I felt like a naughty little tripper trying to figure what it was about, so I didn't.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#18989443 - 10/17/13 02:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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On one of my trips I had to pee, and I really didn't want to go into the bathroom because of the brightness, but I just thought to myself, "Let's just hurry up, turn on the light, sit down, close my eyes, and get it over with." I closed my eyes because they were way too sensitive to the light, and while I did this I was imagining walking through what I thought Hell would be like if it actually existed. It was an endless black void, and I just kept walking around for all eternity. When I snapped back to the task at hand I was in a bit of a panic, so I hurried up and went back into my bedroom. I hope I never have to experience that again.
I don't think it's bad to think about, but it can easily ruin a trip in some cases. I still managed to enjoy my last trip even though part way through I thought I was going to be raided by a SWAT team and have my house bombed by the military.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Bawks]
#18989507 - 10/17/13 03:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You could very well be prying open a can of worms, like a lingering psychoses. Every acid trip for me has its sketchy moments, such as anxiety or psychosis, but I don't experience this for more than a few brief moments, and contrary to your experience, for me it seemed to be a more noticeable issue when I first began tripping, and has been on the decline as I've been on the rise.
I guess I've adjusted, or just put those thoughts behind me. I remember on my first few trips thinking crazy schizo-paranoid things, like when dancing, several times I had to stop because I feared the floor would break through or my house would collapse.
Driving was also fearful, especially red lights, that pesky driver behind me always seemed to be braking slowly, and about to rear end me at high speeds. Also outside at a park once I remember telling my friends we should return home because, among other things, we were safer from meteorites indoors.
The only other thing I noticed and disliked is that acid can bring out depression, and precipitate negative thinking or general hopelessness, but you can very reliably avoid that by dosing in a good environment, keeping your doses small <200mics, and just keeping your head up.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: gamesguru]
#18989527 - 10/17/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Crumpet]
#18990267 - 10/17/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes mindfuck.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#18990349 - 10/17/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmm. I believe that both Satan and God talks to us, all the time, in our heads. This is on top of all your own thoughts. You have to choose where you want to direct your attention, and that is the direction you will go in. This is the number one thing psychedelics can teach you. Life can also teach you that, but not in such an instant and obvious manner, and most of the time the knowledge comes when it is too late.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#18990366 - 10/17/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jesus Cristo said: in like just knowing illuminati and black magick type stuff and information is just a second away is insane, but i always just keep it to myself, in the back of my head since I really don't wish to think about it.
Illuminati and magic are supposed to be dark thoughts? I must be the fucking devil. Great. And information is a second away from making you insane? What?
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: The Centre]
#18990376 - 10/17/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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But God made satan so how nice is that..
God talking to us in our heads is like trolling us because he knew lucifer would fall..
If I was God i'd un-create satan and forgive all human beings.. What came first, the sin or the man? God came first.. designed rules he'd knew people would break... now we must pay...
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18990511 - 10/17/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: But God made satan so how nice is that..
God talking to us in our heads is like trolling us because he knew lucifer would fall..
If I was God i'd un-create satan and forgive all human beings.. What came first, the sin or the man? God came first.. designed rules he'd knew people would break... now we must pay...
Sadly, this is not the case. The Israelis (the only people to whom the laws counted in the first place) asked for those laws. God created Satan, and yes, he did know he will fall. He also knew Men will fall. He also know that all is good since Men will Rise again with the aid of the absolute Magickal power that comes with sacrificing a part of Himself. He still left the choice to us. If he didn't produce the option of evil, he would be an controlling bastard. He has never stopped us from doing evil. (That is obvious, look at Hitler.) This has caused an unbalance in the universe, thus we have duality. He has full confidence in us though, to make the right decision and direct our attention to Love, and not Hate.
I understand your argument, but most Christians that have tried to explain why all these things are so don't know why, because they don't get that God isn't a nanny, and never was. They don't get that the only reason the Law was put there was because the Israelites asked for it, and Christ came to fulfill the Law and forever loose us from it's bondage.
Don't confuse Law with what happened in the garden of Eden. (Although it is related.) God told Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil because he knew that would cause them to see the world in a duality, not because he wanted to trick them into making a fatal mistake. He tried to prevent one. Why did he make the tree? Because he had to give us a choice to see the separation that ALREADY EXISTED between God and his creation. This choice we made, after being lied to, did not lead to our condemnation to Hell, it only meant that our physical bodies first had to die before we could re-enter a state of oneness. This is what happens to all of those who do not follow a system of law. Then the Isrialites asked for a law. Many other cultures also asked for laws or made laws themselves. Those who chose to live under a law, had to fulfill it to return to the oneness. This counts for all cultures, not just Jews and Muslims. Hinduism has it's own laws, often ones that are impossible to fulfill. I don't believe God sends anybody to hell, I just feel that he was obligated to create such a place. (For free choice to be real all possibilities must exist.) Anybody who ends up in hell because of Law did so because they chose to live under law. For as long as you think of something as wrong or right, you live under law. (Guess what... Something tells me you do.)
Unless you fulfill it. Christ payed for it, for anybody who wants it. You just gotta ask first, he won't force it on you.
PS: Sorry for total thread derail. Mentioning anything Christian on psychedelic forums can often be met with much resistance, but people must understand that not all Christians believe the same things, as most Christians are uneducated about their own religion. Heck, the very fact that they practice it as a religion and don't understand that it is a way of life and a gift from God, is why the Church is in ruins as it is. Thousands of denominations... God weeps at the sight.
BTW, find me a Buddhist that actually reached enlightenment, and show him to me. I bet you you will find one or two, sure. They will have a wonderful time in Nirvana. The rest, sadly, are working toward an unattainable goal. I don't see the human race getting there by their own power any time soon, and since the Ultimate Sacrifice has already been made, I don't feel like I need to. Each and every Christian who believes their sin is absolved and that they don't live under law, is saved, even if they are useless wretches. You can try the hard way, if you'd like, but we all slip, so why bother?
Edited by The Centre (10/17/13 07:46 PM)
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18990670 - 10/17/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: But God made satan so how nice is that..
God talking to us in our heads is like trolling us because he knew lucifer would fall..
If I was God i'd un-create satan and forgive all human beings.. What came first, the sin or the man? God came first.. designed rules he'd knew people would break... now we must pay...
You allow free will then the decision to sin is on each individual. There is forgiveness, even angels aren't perfect, you should be held accountable for your decisions. We are given all the tools to make the right choices, without being forced into them, we are responsible for our own actions, it's unfortunate you feel blameless in life.
Also this conversation is getting really heady and geared more towards the spirituality and mysticism forum. If it continues to be purely religious discussion I will move this there.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: The Centre]
#18990684 - 10/17/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What about acid and shrooms being magick? Sorcery much? I have one hit of wow I wanna do but I don't want that to be my portal to hell or something, like it was in the past.... Like that saying
Jesus comes like a thief in the night was the main theme during my first experience with L... Like God was testing me or something...
But I don't wanna do drugs just to get high and waste time, I want an enhanced earthly experience where I can feel nirvana and better my body&mind so when I die I can reach heaven or whatever...
I just want to be on the side of good.. I help people, I step over bugs, I cherish nature and I go outside every day to appreciate the randomness of all things. I stay in shape and im getting stronger every day physically and mentally. I don't make fun of people and I try to teach people the path of enlightenment in a non hypocritical kind of way. I don't boast or try to make people jealous, I don't force knowledge onto people. I learn to ignore negativity whether its other human contact or just random things happening that I don't like or approve of. I turn around and walk the other way.
Even though sometimes I want to get in to a fight just for the sake of dishing out pain and receiving pain; competition. I have never once gotten into a true fight with anyone....ever... But I feel like my suppressed rage will come out one of these years.. Even if my opponent is bigger than me and I know I'll lose the fight. I am human. I think its only natural to be challenged and to not give up. Slowly but surely I imagine it happening. But who knows? I'm not wishing for it per-say but I want to do something in my life where It was all ultimately up to me to win or lose. Like a fight to the death.. a sacrifice.. Destroying a child rapist or murderer, viking style... Just owning somebody for their evil ways. I just want to live and die with a purpose.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#18990712 - 10/17/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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psilocybinjunkie said: You allow free will then the decision to sin is on each individual. There is forgiveness, even angels aren't perfect, you should be held accountable for your decisions. We are given all the tools to make the right choices, without being forced into them, we are responsible for our own actions, it's unfortunate you feel blameless in life.
Also this conversation is getting really heady and geared more towards the spirituality and mysticism forum. If it continues to be purely religious discussion I will move this there.
I'm not saying don't be held accountable for your personal actions... But what I mean is.. I don't agree with certain things..
For one.. I didn't choose to be born, so why do I have to follow rules? I can't suicide.. thats a sin all by itself.. the ultimate one.. so im stuck.. i'm a slave essentially.
If you commit a crime you go to jail.. you KNOW the consequences of getting caught stealing or something.. but thou shalt not steal... then you go to hell.. talk about double punishment for a finite 100 years or less on earth..
Then theres the gamble of being born... You might be born in iraq as a girl who has to get her genitalia mutilated.. god knows its going on.. there is pain... oh just suffer in this life to experience nirvana in the next... why not just make the baby die in the wound and go straight to heaven... not allow them to be born in the desert to be raped, 90 lashes for being raped, getting their pussy lips chopped off, with a 50/50% chance of surviving it... oh but they praise allah so they burn in hell..
SOME FUCKING BULL SHIT.
then theres the worldly leaders who sign a pact with satan for money, power, etc.. just to fuck the rest..
fuck man its all bullshit
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18990751 - 10/17/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you want to avoid demons and in the real world you want to avoid pigs.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
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SOME FUCKING BULL SHIT.
then theres the worldly leaders who sign a pact with satan for money, power, etc.. just to fuck the rest..
fuck man its all bullshit
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: rikuni]
#18990801 - 10/17/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rikuni said: you want to avoid demons and in the real world you want to avoid pigs.
that
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18991036 - 10/17/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: For one.. I didn't choose to be born, so why do I have to follow rules?
Wow you're completely self centered and selfish, if I wasn't a mod i'd put you on ignore after reading this post. Your statements on fights are also completely absurd, i've been in tons of real fights, broken knuckles, blood stained concrete, etc. Not one of the things you've stated is anything other than selfish delusion.. You feel completely entitled and are one of the most childish and selfish people i've run across in my time here at the shroomery. I truly feel sorry for your parents, family, and all your friends. Disgraceful..
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#18991362 - 10/17/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I enjoyed reading that biased ego you have clearly shown. You obviously didn't understand what I meant when I brought up the fighting... Animals fight for territory, I'm sure a lion feels like the king if he is challenged.. He doesn't run like a little bitch and he fights to the death. Thats called appreciating that fucking gift precious life gave you... Being prepped and ready for anything.
You can ignore me regardless you self-deluded bastard I don't give a shit how old you are or how long you have been on this forum, we are ALL humans are entitled to our own..
What do I feel entitled for and how am I selfish? It takes two to tango you stupid mother fucker and i'd love to challenge you.. Obviously YOU are the one who is absurd considering AS STATED ABOVE, I never got into a fight but YOU have so whats that tell you? You are an ignorant twat with a silver spoon in his ass..
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18991365 - 10/17/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now go ahead and cry about how I disrespected a mod or something, like I give a fuck.. I'm like a dragon with many heads I'll keep growing more. I always do.. now fuck off.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18991387 - 10/17/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love thinking of dark stuff on certain trips. I like to look at this guys art while I am on Shrooms, gives a very esoteric feel to the headspace. I think that the patterns and symbols, and hedonism are the result of certain headspace usage, and I enjoy them that much more because of it.
http://www.theartofskinner.com/art/#/all/2012
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Futuresight]
#18991550 - 10/17/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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and obviously the stupid fuck never watched fight club
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18991629 - 10/17/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I consider myself very logical in my thinking process, Im open to many ideas but truly believe few if any.
although I'm athiest and dont believe in alien contact or mystical/ magical forces, when I'm tripping and sometimes days following Ill sometimes get an extremely out of the box idea and then seek to prove or disprove whatever it may be.
David Icke is my go to for conspiracy theories and 'crazy' ideas that hell spend hours talking about. I think he may be on to something with the Anunnaki though, just not as literally as he speaks of it.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#18992698 - 10/17/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: But God made satan so how nice is that..
God talking to us in our heads is like trolling us because he knew lucifer would fall..
If I was God i'd un-create satan and forgive all human beings.. What came first, the sin or the man? God came first.. designed rules he'd knew people would break... now we must pay...
You allow free will then the decision to sin is on each individual. There is forgiveness, even angels aren't perfect, you should be held accountable for your decisions. We are given all the tools to make the right choices, without being forced into them, we are responsible for our own actions, it's unfortunate you feel blameless in life.
Also this conversation is getting really heady and geared more towards the spirituality and mysticism forum. If it continues to be purely religious discussion I will move this there.
Oh, don't misunderstand me. We will and DO pay for our crimes one way or another. The point is that the payment isn't eternal damnation as some Christians make it out to be. BUT, that doesn't mean eternal damnation IS NOT under the list of possibilities.
Now with that cleared up, we can get back to how ever this thread turns out.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18992740 - 10/17/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: What about acid and shrooms being magick? Sorcery much? I have one hit of wow I wanna do but I don't want that to be my portal to hell or something, like it was in the past.... Like that saying
Jesus comes like a thief in the night was the main theme during my first experience with L... Like God was testing me or something...
But I don't wanna do drugs just to get high and waste time, I want an enhanced earthly experience where I can feel nirvana and better my body&mind so when I die I can reach heaven or whatever...
I just want to be on the side of good.. I help people, I step over bugs, I cherish nature and I go outside every day to appreciate the randomness of all things. I stay in shape and im getting stronger every day physically and mentally. I don't make fun of people and I try to teach people the path of enlightenment in a non hypocritical kind of way. I don't boast or try to make people jealous, I don't force knowledge onto people. I learn to ignore negativity whether its other human contact or just random things happening that I don't like or approve of. I turn around and walk the other way.
Even though sometimes I want to get in to a fight just for the sake of dishing out pain and receiving pain; competition. I have never once gotten into a true fight with anyone....ever... But I feel like my suppressed rage will come out one of these years.. Even if my opponent is bigger than me and I know I'll lose the fight. I am human. I think its only natural to be challenged and to not give up. Slowly but surely I imagine it happening. But who knows? I'm not wishing for it per-say but I want to do something in my life where It was all ultimately up to me to win or lose. Like a fight to the death.. a sacrifice.. Destroying a child rapist or murderer, viking style... Just owning somebody for their evil ways. I just want to live and die with a purpose.
That rage you feel is just the fire God put inside you. Don't fear it, but be careful not to channel it into the wrong areas.
I don't know about L, and I distrust the mushroom, but mescaline cactus has given me too much insight into myself for me to say that God did not intend for us to ingest it. Heck, give one taste on a proper aloe plant and you will never call San Pedro bitter again. Cactus is Kosher as far as I know. Every seed bearing plant... Mushrooms don't have seeds now do they...
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: The Centre]
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i like what you say centre... shrooms heal (antibiotics) and there are also edible ones that dont cause you to trip, which still are from spores... so like... it makes you wonder..
there are death caps that can kill you..
but there are also killer plants... ya dig?
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#18993140 - 10/17/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jesus Cristo said: in like just knowing illuminati and black magick type stuff and information is just a second away is insane, but i always just keep it to myself, in the back of my head since I really don't wish to think about it.
Do these thoughts happen to everyone? In my earlier trips it never came up, and from what my friends tell me they haven't gotten similar thoughts, and others I feel just don't like to talk about it for whatever reason.
On a vaguer note, is it bad to look into these type of thoughts, or paranoid/bad-trip thoughts in general from an analytic view? It's interesting stuff when I'm tripping but is it bad to think of such dark thoughts? its only really come up in my last trip, and I felt like a naughty little tripper trying to figure what it was about, so I didn't.
Yeah, Illuminati BS tweaks me out when I'm tripping. I can't handle to think about that type of shit because it puts me into a negative head space.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Saeis]
#18993167 - 10/17/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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but how do you not think about it when its in every single aspect of our lives... theres not one thing they don't interfere with..
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18993608 - 10/17/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Interesting thread.
I too read david icke and all sorts of other things going into the occult, illuminati, free masons, esoteric, ancient deities, etc.etc.etc. Anyhow, every time i have tripped, these thoughts stayed far away and i could have an almost sociable party time while tripping but not this last time, (not that i expect my trip to be this, i go into trips with no expectations, period). I recently ate a relatively low dose last month on saturday sept 14th. The day after friday the 13th. Due to the great occultism associated with friday the 13th, the rituals taking place that day were placing a miasma in the air, my shroom trip was completely steered/tuned into this energy/vibration in the air. My trip was hell, death, ritualistic, creepy, pain, suffering, torture, pure evil. just about every sick depraved thing humans are capable of doing was the embodiment of my trip, it was out of my control, i was just being guided on a journey through some creepy carnival/freak show/horror movie, what have you. I was full on level 4 trippin and i did die and accepted it. I cant even say the trip was bad though, as i feel it has made my love more pure or stronger or more passionate. The trip in a nutshell was pure evil. I could type a novel on the trip, it lasted 11 -/+ hours and it showed me so many disturbing different things, time was a figment of the imagination, it didn't exist, at least not in the eternity purgatory/limbo i was in. My GF tripped with me and her trip was identical to mine, in fact we were reading each others minds at one point, as if our minds merged and became one. I don't want to go into a full on trip report here, but if i did it would be really, really, really, long. This was off just 1.7g of my homegrown dried ecuador cubensis. I am still trying to absorb this all and integrate it over a month later, and i also notice very mild HPPD effects even now. Also when i smoke weed it kinda takes on the feel of this last trip.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Xtradimensional]
#18993619 - 10/17/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My insecurities which eat me alive during tripping, the more intense the trip, the worse
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18993764 - 10/18/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: My insecurities which eat me alive during tripping, the more intense the trip, the worse
This. ^
Though some of my trips have helped me come to terms with myself
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Saeis]
#18993786 - 10/18/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's why I like mescaline so much. It helps me deal with problems
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#18993946 - 10/18/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Man. I have some negative thoughts once in a while when I'm tripping, but it's more about my own problems and what I need to fix about my personality.
I guess that's a perk of not really having solid beliefs. There could be a God. There could be Illuminati. Is there any way I could know for sure? No. So it doesn't bother me.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Deathcore]
#18996552 - 10/18/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: but how do you not think about it when its in every single aspect of our lives... theres not one thing they don't interfere with..
I do not believe in the illuminati. I might as well fear the boogey man. I do however fear and avoid the police while tripping. I don't fear them busting in my house or anything irrational though. I have problem stopping thoughts about how pointless life seems in the capitalist dream. Go to work>buy house>die. Seems like a waste really. I see why so many people turned on and dropped out. While tripping I was watching a train of commuters pass by and I thought the Jews on the cattle car in Germany looked happier. I have to be careful I don't take a bunch of acid and decide to quit my job follow a jam band around or live on a commune or something. Are there still free love communes? Never mind I have a car to pay for and a cat to feed.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: my3rdeye]
#18996569 - 10/18/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some amount of capitalism is unfortunately necessary in society due in part to resources being scarce
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18996645 - 10/18/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My answer:Clowns,demons,trains and of course Elves
I can safely say I HAVE NEVER been even thinking about the illuminati while tripping.My Great Grandpa was a Grand Master of the Nor Cal Freemasons for a long time in the 20's & 30's.Other then networking for business and helping each other in the community,the free masons aren't all that mysterious.
That being said I do think there IS a select elite group in America but I Dont give two shits
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#18996702 - 10/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: My answer:Clowns,demons,trains and of course Elves
I can safely say I HAVE NEVER been even thinking about the illuminati while tripping.My Great Grandpa was a Grand Master of the Nor Cal Freemasons for a long time in the 20's & 30's.Other then networking for business and helping each other in the community,the free masons aren't all that mysterious.
That being said I do think there IS a select elite group in America but I Dont give two shits
Do your research into freemasons, just because you have a freemason family member does not conclude you or even your family member really even knows what is taking place at higher levels of their hierarchy, its all about ranks within the order, like a modern military. The freemasons are the knights Templar. Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank. Also its not just the american elite but the entire world elite, aka globalists.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Xtradimensional]
#18996895 - 10/18/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In Freemasonry a Grand Master is the leader of the lodges within his Masonic jurisdiction. He presides over a Grand Lodge, and has certain rights in the constituent lodges that form his jurisdiction. Just as the Worshipful Master of a lodge annually appoints lodge officers to assist him, so the Grand Master of each Grand Lodge annually appoints grand lodge officers to assist him in his work. Grand Lodges often elect or appoint Deputy Grand Masters who can act on behalf of the Grand Master when he is unable to do so. In English Freemasonry, where a member of the Royal Family is often the Grand Master, he may also appoint a Pro Grand Master to deputise for him when he is involved in affairs of State. The Pro Grand Master has no function when the Grand Master is present, and is distinct from the Deputy Grand Master. There are two distinct traditions in connection with the office of Grand Master. Generally speaking the European practice is for the same Grand Master to be re-elected for several consecutive years, maybe even several decades, whilst in other countries a Grand Master serves a set term of only one to three years, and then retires. The first unambiguously recorded Grand Master was Anthony Sayer, elected as the first Grand Master of the Premier Grand Lodge of England in 1717. There are earlier references to Grand Masters (for example, the architect Christopher Wren), but there is no unambiguous proof that the term is used in its current sense in those contexts (the references may refer to operative stonemasonry). In several European countries, the position of Grand Master has often been held by members of royal families or the high nobility. In some Protestant northern European countries, the position was held by the King for a long time. In England and Wales, the current Grand Master is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent. The same title is used for the leader of masonic jurisdictions for women, where there is a general preference for the use of historical terms, rather than contrived female versions
Sounds like you are the one who needs to do his research chump.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#18996978 - 10/18/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: In Freemasonry a Grand Master is the leader of the lodges within his Masonic jurisdiction. He presides over a Grand Lodge, and has certain rights in the constituent lodges that form his jurisdiction. Just as the Worshipful Master of a lodge annually appoints lodge officers to assist him, so the Grand Master of each Grand Lodge annually appoints grand lodge officers to assist him in his work. Grand Lodges often elect or appoint Deputy Grand Masters who can act on behalf of the Grand Master when he is unable to do so. In English Freemasonry, where a member of the Royal Family is often the Grand Master, he may also appoint a Pro Grand Master to deputise for him when he is involved in affairs of State. The Pro Grand Master has no function when the Grand Master is present, and is distinct from the Deputy Grand Master. There are two distinct traditions in connection with the office of Grand Master. Generally speaking the European practice is for the same Grand Master to be re-elected for several consecutive years, maybe even several decades, whilst in other countries a Grand Master serves a set term of only one to three years, and then retires. The first unambiguously recorded Grand Master was Anthony Sayer, elected as the first Grand Master of the Premier Grand Lodge of England in 1717. There are earlier references to Grand Masters (for example, the architect Christopher Wren), but there is no unambiguous proof that the term is used in its current sense in those contexts (the references may refer to operative stonemasonry). In several European countries, the position of Grand Master has often been held by members of royal families or the high nobility. In some Protestant northern European countries, the position was held by the King for a long time. In England and Wales, the current Grand Master is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent. The same title is used for the leader of masonic jurisdictions for women, where there is a general preference for the use of historical terms, rather than contrived female versions
Sounds like you are the one who needs to do his research chump.
Nice copy and paste from wikipedia chump. lol you're fully discredited.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Xtradimensional]
#18997011 - 10/18/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Xtradimensional said :Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank.
I thought You said there's no such thing as a grand master, I spent one second online find this AND I'm looking at a portrait of him right now commemorating his 25th anniversary and his promotion to grand master of the lodge.
You're obviously wrong about this and I really think you're just getting butt hurt because you weren't as educated on this as me
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#18997018 - 10/18/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the police, advocates against drugs, not having necessities/needing to drive
But generally speaking, I think any thought is OK on a trip. If it was a negative thought, it probably should be thought out, or at least dismissed/denied/acknowledged in some manner besides thinking "why am I thinking about this?" Because you probably want to know why
I don't think illuminati has much more to do than politics, and aliens much more to do than just another creature, but when you get into spirituality it's a whole other ball game. That's more about yourself than anything else - you basically discover what it is you ought to know.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#18997030 - 10/18/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank.
I thought You said there's no such thing as a grand master, I spent one second online find this AND I'm looking at a portrait of him right now commemorating his 25th anniversary and his promotion to grand master of the lodge.
You're obviously wrong about this and I really think you're just getting butt hurt because you weren't as educated on this as me
You're right, you got mad copy and paste skills o' educated one.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Xtradimensional]
#18997060 - 10/18/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank.
I thought You said there's no such thing as a grand master, I spent one second online find this AND I'm looking at a portrait of him right now commemorating his 25th anniversary and his promotion to grand master of the lodge.
You're obviously wrong about this and I really think you're just getting butt hurt because you weren't as educated on this as me
You're right, you got mad copy and paste skills o' educated one.
You still didn't address the fact that you thought you were king shit saying, "Also "grand master" is not a masonic rank.". When in a matter of a minute I can find evidence to the contrary and ALSO i'm looking at a commemoration photo for his 25th year there and promotion to GRANDMASTER.
Answer this before you try and discredit me once more
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#18997494 - 10/18/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread. 
Show me some evidence, people. You sound crazy. Sorry.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#18998748 - 10/19/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fuck the ranks they are all under the sand and dirt compared to the elite.
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
#18999353 - 10/19/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jesus Cristo said: in like just knowing illuminati and black magick type stuff and information is just a second away is insane, but i always just keep it to myself, in the back of my head since I really don't wish to think about it.
Do these thoughts happen to everyone? In my earlier trips it never came up, and from what my friends tell me they haven't gotten similar thoughts, and others I feel just don't like to talk about it for whatever reason.
On a vaguer note, is it bad to look into these type of thoughts, or paranoid/bad-trip thoughts in general from an analytic view? It's interesting stuff when I'm tripping but is it bad to think of such dark thoughts? its only really come up in my last trip, and I felt like a naughty little tripper trying to figure what it was about, so I didn't.
No it's not bad to think about it, but as you probably know it can get you into some really weird headspaces that can be hell to get out of again. Now that's some people's version of fun, so whatever works is good. 
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Re: Is there stuff in psychedelicspace you like to avoid? [Re: gamesguru]
#18999380 - 10/19/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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gamesguru said:Also outside at a park once I remember telling my friends we should return home because, among other things, we were safer from meteorites indoors.
The only known victim in histort was lying in bed and had a meteorite punch right through a corrugated iron roof IIRC and whack the hell out of her (see this story). 
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