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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LSDreams]
    #18988206 - 10/16/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Man i really hope this all explodes in op's face and he comes back posting the typical prodigal son, return to christ story everyone's heard. I just think it'll be funny.

Personally i have a feeling i'll end up the same way, i mean i still believe in the christian god, but i feel a god majority of christians are all as lost as the people they think they're saving (if not worse). The epiphone will probably be more around how my beliefs have changed and warped to what they are now. I mean everything i believe has proven true through my whole life, so it's right for now... but i am always willing to accept that i'm 100% wrong.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #18988220 - 10/16/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love when they come back from trips and they find the spiritual way of and meaning of life and ramble about their trip that sounds equally as dumb.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
    #18988278 - 10/16/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
I love when they come back from trips and they find the spiritual way of and meaning of life and ramble about their trip that sounds equally as dumb.



Yeah tripping never completely changed my spirituality like i see some people claim, but it has warped it to what i believe to be true. The problem is if i believed something to be true before a trip, what makes the new belief anymore true? Every single human being knows the truth to the universe THEY live in. It'd be like describing colors to a blind person. Idk i just think it's funny that at the beginning of the post op was wanting to learn a different culture through the use of peyote. But oh no, christianity, the religion i've avoided since i moved out (or whenever you started avoiding it). But op isn't a christian based peyote eating culture a different one than the christianity you grew up with? I'd be pumped to learn what sort of different perspective this church says mescaline gave them. I mean more than anything it shows the harmlessness these drugs can have on the mind. I mean, if all of a sudden there was a drug that instantly had you worshipping animals and dancing around naked for the rest of your life where's the insight?


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
    #18988296 - 10/16/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:orly:Oh ya because an animal spirit is so much more interesting and not made up at all :ilold:




I didnt say it wasnt made up, did I? They are both made up.

Christianity IS boring IMO. I should know, I went through all of christian Sunday school when I was younger. At least natives stick to the bare bones of their beliefs. While Christianity is constantly changing to adapt to popular society.

Doesnt it make more sense to connect with nature, which we already know exists rather than a god that has nothing at all to offer??


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
    #18988306 - 10/16/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Havent seen 2c-b around here for years man. And it wouldn't be the same experience. Id be down but it's not the same as an actual peyote experience


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18988308 - 10/16/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.

Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.



yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day you recover


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18988318 - 10/16/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No insight lol I don't know why people can't see that. A Drug is a drug is a drug. But to some people drugs are "magical" lol what horse shit.

I connect to nature when ever I step outside or whenever I'm Inside looking out, I don't need some religion or drug to tell me to respect and love the earth, to worship it seems so :facepalm: its crazy.
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Havent seen 2c-b around here for years man. And it wouldn't be the same experience. Id be down but it's not the same as an actual peyote experience





Look up how some shamans prefer it to mescaline. They will both make you trip up and that's the point right?


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988325 - 10/16/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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learning sponge said:
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Mescalean said:
So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.

Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.



yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day yourecover




You mean a $200 drug buy.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18988326 - 10/16/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Good luck bud, but dont expect me or any other Christian to rub your stomach and sing soothing songs as you injure yourself and others around you. Not to mention go against the word of God :hug: You will learn the easy way, or the hard way :onfire: and you will have no one to blame but yourself when you choose to purposely walk away from God and that will cause the greatest suffering of it all. :pokerawe:




What if I'm a good person? I like to think I'm a pretty decent human being, I'm kind to everyone I meet, I help people who need help, I'm generous, I treat everyone how I would like to be treated. I don't kill, steal, rip people off etc....And I do all of this because I think we are all one in the same, I'm you and you are me and all that good stuff and not for any "hedging my bets", appeasing a higher power type deal....

So do I also have to burn in eternal hell fire with the murders, rapists, and other general assholes?




Yes, and ironically its probably the murders, rapists, and general assholes who are more likely to make it to Heaven (Matthew 21:31). You, me, and everyone else here will fall short of Gods glory. Fuck throw God out of it for a second, do you align up with your own standards? I'm a nice guy too but Ive got some pretty crummy qualities. Sometimes our hearts are in a different places than our actions. Do you look at other women lustfully who are married? Fuck I couldnt STOP looking at my hot married Spanish teacher today. :facepalm::lol: Did you know you are on par with an adulterer (Matthew 5:27-28). Have you ever hated someone? Did you know God views hate the same as murder (1 John 3:15)




Does that not seems completely fucked to you though? Would you not want to defy such a petty, irrational, dictatorial deity? Why on earth would the omnipotent, all powerful, creator of the universe feel the need to create us, give us free will and then send those who do not believe in him to burn in eternal hell fire, does that not seem like the most sick twisted joke anyone could possibly conjure up. I dunno but the God of the bible seems pretty insecure IMO.

I'm certainly far from perfect, I have many shortcomings, but all in all I think I'm a fairly decent human being. If the God of the bible does exist (I, personally am extremely doubtful of this) then I would rather burn in hell then worship such a vile being.....

I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree for now




He doesnt do a thing, you send yourself there.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
    #18988336 - 10/16/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
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learning sponge said:
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Mescalean said:
So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.

Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.



yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day yourecover




You mean a $200 drug buy.



no..theyre really nice people and that 200 donation is basically a lifetime pass to go
its really neat to trip in the desert by yerself

now stop trolling you truffle eating piece of dog doo


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988348 - 10/16/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not trolling I'm making a valid point. Its a drug deal. You can paint a red dog black but its still a red dog


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
    #18988360 - 10/16/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and I only trip once a year if that so don't talk about what you don't know.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
    #18988368 - 10/16/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not trolling I'm making a valid point. Its a drug deal. You can paint a red dog black but its still a red dog





would it make you happy if we weren't allowed to do peyote??huh?? :whowouldsaysuchathing:


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988372 - 10/16/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And I guess i never thought of thw chistian/native mix as its own culture. Ill consider this. Its just the same reason i never went to NA or anything like it


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18988388 - 10/16/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So learning sponge youve gone? One of my concerns is the wild life around there, just the tupical coyote? Javelina? Those things are fuckin mean. I figure winterish would be good. Snakes are away and slow.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988389 - 10/16/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No I could give a shit what people do just don't bullshit it by saying its for religion when its to get fucked up.

And don't say its a donation when its a drug deal.

And if it were for religious use then you shouldn't have to pay anyway. Religion is a business to everyone but those practicing it.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988411 - 10/16/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
I'm not trolling I'm making a valid point. Its a drug deal. You can paint a red dog black but its still a red dog




Maybe in the eyes of an american drone. But the rest of us have souls, and spiritual ceremonies aren't about getting high on drugs... its about a unique experience for you to realize and learn new concepts.

 
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Mescalean said:
So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.

Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.



yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day you recover




Thats very interesting brother, what does the cleansing consist of?


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18988440 - 10/16/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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dark3st said:
No I could give a shit what people do just don't bullshit it by saying its for religion when its to get fucked up.

And don't say its a donation when its a drug deal.

And if it were for religious use then you shouldn't have to pay anyway. Religion is a business to everyone but those practicing it.




they basically let you stay there for 3 days other than the night you trip,feed you,provide the loph,and will teach you how to grow and much more
I mean cmon dude this place is for people to trip and find there own spirituality..they don't even preach at you..you cant just let people come and do it free
if you wanna do free peyote get accepted in the Native American church :goodluckwiththat2:
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So learning sponge youve gone? One of my concerns is the wild life around there, just the tupical coyote? Javelina? Those things are fuckin mean. I figure winterish would be good. Snakes are away and slow.



yeah pretty much,snakes too...yer not scared of those are you??


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LSDreams]
    #18988459 - 10/16/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not a drone, I'm a scientific thinker, using a drug to see God is nothing but electrical impulses in the brain causing an experience not that the actually does anything mystical. 

Opium makes me feel closer to God, where's my religion?
Cocaine too
Hey what about belladonna or crack hey why not Meth for religious use at least with psychosis I can actually see and talk to entity's and believe its real.

Hey schizophrenia should be marketed as an religious experience because it sounds about the same.


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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
    #18988482 - 10/16/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you've never done cacti have you?


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