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are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline?
    #18986523 - 10/16/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mescaline for me so far has without a doubt been the "psychedelic of love". Dmt, my one mild shroom trip and the tasteless blotter I've had (don't know what quality it was) don't tend to make me feel like my heart is making love with my mind..so to speak.

Have I simply not had a high enough dose of other psychedelics? Nor tried the right ones?


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Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
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Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18986552 - 10/16/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybin Mexicana fruiting bodies.


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18986596 - 10/16/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, are they qualitatively different than cubensis?


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18986928 - 10/16/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of people who have tried various species of psilocybin mushrooms say P. Mexicana is their favorite. P. Mexicana also has thousands of years of history behind it and was the first psilocybin mushroom to be extracted and researched. It's effects are described as crystalline and clairvoyant.


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18987000 - 10/16/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Whenever I read of people's high dose shroom trips it always tends to be disconnection with reality type event. I believe it separates the mind from the body. I find this is common both with Psilocybin AND Amanita mushrooms, but it seems to be the main effect on amanita's, while on psilocybin you can very much be too distracted by the visual and mental aspect to notice this disconnection is there. But this disconnection is what causes all the anxiety I experience on mushrooms. DMT freaks me out due to a feeling of impending doom. It is like the apocalypse button in your brain to me. I had a freaky nightmare about having a button that ends the universe, and walking around with this thing. Went on with life (dream) and forgot about it, then eventually took it out of wherever I had it (Pinkie Pie/Bugs Bunny style. I just got it from the other side of the 5th wall.) and pressed the button. Blank with beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. Then I wake up, with cold sweat. I had this dream before DMT, and only knew it was related LONG after taking DMT.

Mescaline... Thank the Lord God Almighty for the glory that is cactus juice. Hallelujah. It connects body mind and soul in a glorious dance of pure beauty. It is extremely powerful when combined with an extremely powerful mind, it is weak when combined with weak minds.

It connects you with yourself, and it also connects you with those around you, and it can even connect you with God if you allow God in.


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: The Centre]
    #18987047 - 10/16/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Centre, I have indeed hugged my own mind on mescaline. So yes indeed it does connect yourself with your own mind lol


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18987891 - 10/16/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder if doing a cold juice extraction after freezing and thawing out bridgesii will work well... Angel juicer is a twin gear cold extraction, it removes all juice and leaves behind the pulp... Just wondering if the slimey juice will flow.


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18987984 - 10/16/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mescaline is usually the most euphoric psychedelic for me, although 4-Aco-DMT was very close the one time I tried it. More testing is in order there...  :strokebeard:


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #18988010 - 10/16/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

2cb


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18988040 - 10/16/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mister how does 2cb compare to mescaline in your opinion?


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18988117 - 10/16/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Real LSD can be a very lovely experience.  The summer of love, 67', was caught in a deluge of LSD. Mescaline is a little more euphoric, but LSD has virtually no body load.  But, both are great psychedelics.  LSD give one a vibrant energy that lifts you to the top of the world.  In fact, in past experiences, I have felt megalomania. I felt like I could conquer the world and nothing could/would stop me.  This feeling, in the presence of and interaction with other people can bring out all kinds of love.

These two drugs emanate love, but they do it differently.  I love psilocybin to, but it is more dark and dreary for me.  I am sure there are dozens of RC's that also bring out the love.  I have no experience with them though. The four classics are sufficient for me. 

Just don't forget the :stash:.  This is lovely all on its own. :peace:


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18988124 - 10/16/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalOrangutan said:
Mister how does 2cb compare to mescaline in your opinion?




I love them both. I'd say mescaline has a bit more depth than 2cb, especially with the higher doses. Mescaline also lasts quite a bit longer. 2cb is hands down the most recreational psych I have ever taken, very clear headed, no nausea, no confusion. 2cb can definitely be VERY "lovey dovey" 2cb sex is the bees knees. I'd say the euphoria of 2cb is comparable to mesc, at least in my experience.

They are both wonderful drugs, this thread reminded me about how long it's been since I last did mescaline, I should fix that:thumbup:

You should definitely try some higher doses with the tryptamines though


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #18988130 - 10/16/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hm, I believe most people that took acid were taking owsleys work, rather than sandoz right?


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18988135 - 10/16/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In 67 that is


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18988154 - 10/16/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know. I was just a twinkle in my dad's eye in 67'.  I wouldn't be surprised if it were both though.  Tim Leary got his from Sandoz in quantity at Harvard. Owsley was a beast. :drugnerd:


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18988161 - 10/16/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mr, would higher doses of oral tryptamines generally feel like dmt, on a second to second basis? Obviously they'd be longer lasting than dmt


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18988208 - 10/16/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thing is physicist, every time I read about the comparison of LSD to psilocin and mescaline from the perspective of people in the 50s and 60s who took pharmaceutical grade LSD, they basically say it's almost the same as those two. I'm sure if I took pharmaceutical grade LSD in a lab experiment, it'd put me in a familiar psychedelic mind space of some kind, but I'd love to see the subtle unique qualities it would have vs shrooms and cactus.

Consider, Hoffman said "mescaline is qualitatively almost identical tolsd". Yet he said "lsa is qualitatively different than LSD, in that it is less pronounced in it's euphoric and hallucinogenic effects". apparently, legit lab made LSD is about as visual and euphoric as mescaline, whereas the same cannot be said about lsa, despite lsa being more closely related chemically


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18988268 - 10/16/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have read that too.  To me, they are different animals though.  Mescaline put me to sleep on the come-up ffs.  That never happened to me with acid. Most of the doses that I had were Pickard's, I think.  The time frame was right.  And, some of them were low grade.  I think purity alone alters the effects of LSD.  More recently, I have had several wow that are supposedly quite pure.  These wow trips were much more similar to mescaline.  Who the fuck knows though?  Maybe the experience is more affected by set and setting then the actual compound. :strokebeard:


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #18988274 - 10/16/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good LSD + psytrance/trance

100% pure love, one with the universe, merging with your true self, pure soul experience, god thoughts

removes all borders and lets you be free :-)

unfortunately most people are afraid to be changed

personally I like any psychedelic, because it lets me see reality from different angles
salvia,mushrooms,lsd ... all are great IMO
even weed can be very psychedelic if you get the strongest hash + gravbong (but the love is often replaced with fear... so not as fun)

I get the love on any psychedelic... salvia, shrooms, lsd , but LSD seems to be the best, more love
and lasts longer so you can be in nature and feel the connectedness / love / beauty
no bodyload, so almost impossible to have a bad trip if you got little trip experience

lsd is the peace drug :wink:
get 1 hit for yourself and 3 for your friends :-P


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Re: are any other psychedelics as lovey dovey as mescaline? [Re: lessismore]
    #18988290 - 10/16/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mio have you taken mescaline?


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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