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Does this WBS look good to you guys?
    #18987933 - 10/16/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

First time I've prepared and noced WBS. I noticed a very small amount of water content after shooting 2cc's in each jar (obviously, I just don't know if its normal). Btw I am using a MS syringe.

I took someone's advice and rotated the jars over the course of today and it seems like the water has already absorbed mostly into the WBS. However, I'd like your opinion on the photos.

Second question. Did I possibly screw anything up by rotating the jars today? I didn't violently shake them or anything lol. Just carefully rotating to get the moisture across the WBS.

Thanks All!

JAR A





JAR B







Note: on Jar B it looks like there is "standing" water in the bottom of the jar. However, it doesn't really move when I tip the jar to the side. It's not like a flood in there.. I just think its a little damp and the WBS is pressing against the glass there more than any other spot in the jar since all the weight is on top. I think the photo exaggerates this a little. Not sure tho...

Anyway just kinda need your advice and guidance on this one since its all brand new.

Thanks for Frank for his WBS Tek on this one.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18987944 - 10/16/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I might mention that these are QT size jars.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988034 - 10/16/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As long as the outside of the grains were dry when you loaded them into the jars you should be good to go.  They look a bit wet, but I have had many dry grains look wet after PC'ing them but still have everything work out just fine.  How long did you PC by the way? 

Rotating them like you did should not cause any problems.  Shaking would have possibly messed things up by moving all the spores around the jar and minimizing the chances for them to germinate. 

So far it looks like you are off to a good start.  Keep us updated and keep on going through posts to learn learn learn.  Using a MS syringe with WBS usually takes a while so be patient.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: dodgem]
    #18988050 - 10/16/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the reply.

I PC'd for 90 minutes after pressure was built up in the PC @ 15psi.

I will definitely keep everyone up-to-date as this goes forward. The MS syringe was my easiest option ATM since I don't have any tissue or LC to use.

About how long should it take to see signs of growth approx? (I know there are thousands of factors that play into this)


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988069 - 10/16/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Also, The WBS was dry. Maybe a couple grains would stick to my hand if I put my palm into the colander. RR's paper towel method passed as well as some other methods I found to test the moisture.

I waited close to 2 hours I believe. Maybe a little less.

I also waited 30 hours after PC before noccing just to give everything a chance to settle down, cool, etc..


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988088 - 10/16/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I waited close to 2 hours I believe. Maybe a little less.




You waited 2 hours for what?


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18988096 - 10/16/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I waited about 2 hours for the WBS to dry. Before putting the WBS into jars and proceeding with PC'n.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18988122 - 10/16/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

how long ago did you noc em>?

ive got a very similar grow going as we speak. 2cc's in WBS using MS. im interested in seeing how they progress in comparison to yours. i noc'd mine 4 days back. havent checked them since so im not sure how its doing but i figure by tomorrow i should see some slight growth if im lucky!

ill be keeping up with you to see how things go :laugh:


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: aomoriakuma]
    #18988160 - 10/16/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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how long ago did you noc em>?

ive got a very similar grow going as we speak. 2cc's in WBS using MS. im interested in seeing how they progress in comparison to yours. i noc'd mine 4 days back. havent checked them since so im not sure how its doing but i figure by tomorrow i should see some slight growth if im lucky!

ill be keeping up with you to see how things go :laugh:




I nocd earlier today. We are about 3-4 days apart then. Please let me know how your grow is doing -- very interested.

I am curious to know when the first signs show... this forum rocks :smile:


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988255 - 10/16/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Incidentally, that doesn't look like WBS but millet/sorghum. Not that this should pose a problem, in fact its probably better


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18988304 - 10/16/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Incidentally, that doesn't look like WBS but millet/sorghum. Not that this should pose a problem, in fact its probably better





They have this at Lowes for $7



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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18988317 - 10/16/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

2cc is quite a bit, I would use less next time. Half a cc is lots. They look alright tho, I've seen worse do ok.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988327 - 10/16/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thats a cool mix. WBS in my country contains many other grains. Millet,sunflower seed, wheat, oats, sometimes corn.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18988328 - 10/16/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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2cc is quite a bit, I would use less next time. Half a cc is lots. They look alright tho, I've seen worse do ok.




Awesome, I've made note to dry even more and will use less spore solution next time. More CCs means more jars :smile:


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18988338 - 10/16/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Thats a cool mix. WBS in my country contains many other grains. Millet,sunflower seed, wheat, oats, sometimes corn.




This had some sunflower seeds and cracked corn pieces. Spent a while getting all that crap outta there... The best I could anyway..

But there wasn't much. All the sunflower seeds are gone, but some pieces of cracked corn are hard to get out.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988346 - 10/16/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Thats a cool mix. WBS in my country contains many other grains. Millet,sunflower seed, wheat, oats, sometimes corn.




This had some sunflower seeds and cracked corn pieces. Spent a while getting all that crap outta there... The best I could anyway..

But there wasn't much. All the sunflower seeds are gone, but some pieces of cracked corn are hard to get out.




That's why I like rye, less muss no fuss :shrug:


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988347 - 10/16/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Bear in mind you can do grain to grain transfers, so you wont need that syringe again for dozens of new jars :thumbup:

Paul Stamet's rule of thumb is that 1 jar can knock up 10 new jars, and those 10 will knock up 100 jars.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18988357 - 10/16/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Bear in mind you can do grain to grain transfers, so you wont need that syringe again for dozens of new jars :thumbup:

Paul Stamet's rule of thumb is that 1 jar can knock up 10 new jars, and those 10 will knock up 100 jars.




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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18988370 - 10/16/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Thats a cool mix. WBS in my country contains many other grains. Millet,sunflower seed, wheat, oats, sometimes corn.




This had some sunflower seeds and cracked corn pieces. Spent a while getting all that crap outta there... The best I could anyway..

But there wasn't much. All the sunflower seeds are gone, but some pieces of cracked corn are hard to get out.




That's why I like rye, less muss no fuss :shrug:




Was thinking about trying Rye Berries next. I found a supplier on Amazon that is selling 25lbs for for about $25 shipped.

That's cheaper than the WBS!!


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988391 - 10/16/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Rye is great, I love it :awesomenod: Super easy to get the moisture right, my wife can even prep it for me while I'm at work :lol:


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18988496 - 10/16/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Perfect :grin:


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18988519 - 10/16/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im on my first WBS run as well.  The new.location im in doesnt have rye berries, ( A grain store that doesn't have rye! Imagine that.) Im 7 days in and already had 1 contam. Good growth on the others tho. I only used 1 cc per jar and left the corn.  I did remove the sunflower seeds. And any other floaters. Your jars look drier than mine and i used the same tek and dried for 2 hrs as well. Good vibes for you.

If you could link to that rye for a dollar a lb it would be appreciated. I searched but cant find it.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #18988582 - 10/16/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Im on my first WBS run as well.  The new.location im in doesnt have rye berries, ( A grain store that doesn't have rye! Imagine that.) Im 7 days in and already had 1 contam. Good growth on the others tho. I only used 1 cc per jar and left the corn.  I did remove the sunflower seeds. And any other floaters. Your jars look drier than mine and i used the same tek and dried for 2 hrs as well. Good vibes for you.

If you could link to that rye for a dollar a lb it would be appreciated. I searched but cant find it.




good vibes back at ya!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RHVIQG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p325_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1K1Q00HMT853MVBDQX03&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1630083502&pf_rd_i=507846

Its $15 for 25lbs + shipping

If you have amazon prime, you can get everything shipped 2nd day for free. That's what I do for all this stuff. This particular item doesn't work with Prime, but there are some others..

Thanks for confirmation on moisture.. hopefully I get a couple good ones outta this!


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18988949 - 10/16/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks for the reply.

I PC'd for 90 minutes after pressure was built up in the PC @ 15psi.

I will definitely keep everyone up-to-date as this goes forward. The MS syringe was my easiest option ATM since I don't have any tissue or LC to use.

About how long should it take to see signs of growth approx? (I know there are thousands of factors that play into this)





Honestly I have had spotty luck with MS syringe to Grains in the past. I do not know were you got your MS syringes or, if they are homemade. Agar that MS, and then transfer to grain. This has been working well for me for a few months.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: Sockadin]
    #18988982 - 10/16/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Honestly I have had spotty luck with MS syringe to Grains in the past. I do not know were you got your MS syringes or, if they are homemade. Agar that MS, and then transfer to grain. This has been working well for me for a few months.




The OP isn't suggesting that he's having problems yet, his question was about the water in his jars. By all means your idea is a good one, and I always use agar cultures for my edible grows, but thousands of people on this site each year have success with spore syringes, don't they? I don't know, I have never, nor ever plan to, use one.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18990604 - 10/17/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

personal update: 5 days in and no growth yet ): there is NOTHING going on in those jars lol

i went ahead and PC'd 2 more jars tho and im about to noc em up. gonna use 1cc as opposed to 2, and i have 2 noc points this time just to see if that makes any diff :p

edit: ive noticed that my jars have a little water at the bottom, so i must have left the WBS too wet ): if im not mistaken, this is going to slow colonization, and possibly introduce bacterial contams.. so lets hope my sterilization technique was spot on!


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: aomoriakuma]
    #18991657 - 10/17/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The times I have gotten bacteria contams I think are from too wet of wbs when put into jars.  Same with when I would mix them with coir and verm in tubs and it would contam before fully colonizing.  I think my coir/verm was a bit too moist, needed to be drained more.  I personally now lean towards the drier than wetter side just to be safe.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: dodgem]
    #18991701 - 10/17/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Grains being too wet won't cause bacteria in and of itself. Chances are that if you got a bacterial contam it was either introduced during inoculation (from a contam in the syringe or poor technique) or is the result of improper sterilization. Wet spawn will colonize slower giving you a smaller window for colonization before any endospores that may have survived the PC cycle germinate and take over, which is why proper hydration can help the mycelium get ahead of any endospores. The solution is to up your PC times to kill more endospores and/or switch to an inoculate that is cleaner.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18991726 - 10/17/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree that wet grain =/ bacteria, that is just how it worked out for me.  Thanks for clearing that up.

I have modified my technique in my SAB for g2g and that may have been a factor.  But I was doing 90-120min at 15 psi each time I pc'd so that should not have been the problem.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: aomoriakuma]
    #18992290 - 10/17/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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personal update: 5 days in and no growth yet ): there is NOTHING going on in those jars lol

i went ahead and PC'd 2 more jars tho and im about to noc em up. gonna use 1cc as opposed to 2, and i have 2 noc points this time just to see if that makes any diff :p

edit: ive noticed that my jars have a little water at the bottom, so i must have left the WBS too wet ): if im not mistaken, this is going to slow colonization, and possibly introduce bacterial contams.. so lets hope my sterilization technique was spot on!




Keep me updated :smile:

Just ordered some more spores today for extra jars I bought.. figured why have empty ones?!?!


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    #18992678 - 10/17/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Just ordered some more spores today for extra jars I bought.. figured why have empty ones?!?!




Why would you do that when G2G has already been mentioned? Spore syringes are the most inferior inoculation method, they are slow to colonise and a waste of money.

Seriously dude, do grain to grain transfers for three generations and you'll have enough mushrooms to last you and your buddies for years.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18992696 - 10/17/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

just ordered more myself lol. we seem to be on a similar schedule :p

i bought them so i can run a few different strains. i hope to g2g most of my current jars and set a few into a mini mono. i have 1 cc left of both Z+ and GT that are going into an agar wedge in the next few days!

edit: to barong above me. he probably did it so he can noc up the jars he has left, instead of having to wait for his other jars to colonize.. as you stated, MS takes awhile, and if thats the only option atm, might as well make the most of it and pump out a bunch of jars!


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: aomoriakuma]
    #18993101 - 10/17/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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just ordered more myself lol. we seem to be on a similar schedule :p

i bought them so i can run a few different strains. i hope to g2g most of my current jars and set a few into a mini mono. i have 1 cc left of both Z+ and GT that are going into an agar wedge in the next few days!

edit: to barong above me. he probably did it so he can noc up the jars he has left, instead of having to wait for his other jars to colonize.. as you stated, MS takes awhile, and if thats the only option atm, might as well make the most of it and pump out a bunch of jars!




That was my exact thought in ordering more syringes. I wanted to use up the free jars and increase my odds of success as well as acquire more strains to pass around.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18993149 - 10/17/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Personally I only buy a variety or species once. One successful grow and I take prints and clone. The prints go in my collection and the clones I like go in a slant. Then I can either grow that clone forever or, go back to the print to either isolate on agar or do another ms grow and take more clones. Never buy anything more than once. Even a ms culture plate on agar is good for a few months. I never go with a syringe straight to grain, have had too many dirty syringes.

I'm at the point where I got enough varieties and species to keep me busy for a long long time:super: Truth be told, most of my collection came from the marketplace anyway :shrug: This is the best way to be self sustaining IMO.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18993162 - 10/17/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Chili, Why do you want more 'strains'? They all do the same thing.

Anyway, I'm just saying, once you try G2G and see how fast it takes off (therefore increasing your chance of success) you will never by spores again. It's simply not necessary. I'll posts a pic of a 6lb bag I colonized with gen3 spawn later. Four days on, its alreay half done


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18996887 - 10/18/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

UPDATE: two days later and every jar has growth in it. Two jars I am questioning if a contam is present. But the rest look great.

I can't get a great picture because it isn't heavy yet on all of them. But here is one..



I know its a long way from success, but this is a good start.


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    #18996901 - 10/18/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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    #18998024 - 10/18/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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UPDATE: two days later and every jar has growth in it. Two jars I am questioning if a contam is present. But the rest look great.




Everything you see over the next week or two, you are going to ask 'is it contam'? Generally, you will know, because it won't be white. Then you'll discover information about a white contam known as 'cobweb' and start asking the question 'is this cobweb?'.

Be patient during colonisation. You'll know if all is well. SO far it looks to be the case, so well done


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: barong]
    #18998884 - 10/19/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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UPDATE: two days later and every jar has growth in it. Two jars I am questioning if a contam is present. But the rest look great.




Everything you see over the next week or two, you are going to ask 'is it contam'? Generally, you will know, because it won't be white. Then you'll discover information about a white contam known as 'cobweb' and start asking the question 'is this cobweb?'.

Be patient during colonisation. You'll know if all is well. SO far it looks to be the case, so well done





Thanks. Yes, I have read up on cobweb. I read that it spreads very quickly and you'll know when you have it because the entire jar could colonize within a couple days. That would obviously not be mycelium because it takes much longer for it to colonize.

Will keep posting updates.. Two jars definitely have trich. Took em out. Threw em away.

I dont care about saving glass.. It's not that much anyway. Tossed the entire thing. Screw it.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18999198 - 10/19/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Happy you got growth after the ms noc and shake! When i started reading this post i was concermed that you may not have let the jars cool enough enough after the pc, only 2 hours. I did that with some of my jars a few weeks ago and 1 in three did not take, even with no shake. Now i just let things cool in the pc overnignt, and have not had a problem again.

Good luck with the grow and let us know when you shake, how long it takes to recover (for me two days usually) and once its finally @ 100%!


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    #18999732 - 10/19/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Happy you got growth after the ms noc and shake! When i started reading this post i was concermed that you may not have let the jars cool enough enough after the pc, only 2 hours. I did that with some of my jars a few weeks ago and 1 in three did not take, even with no shake. Now i just let things cool in the pc overnignt, and have not had a problem again.

Good luck with the grow and let us know when you shake, how long it takes to recover (for me two days usually) and once its finally @ 100%!




I let the WBS dry for 2 hours before putting it in the PC. I left the Jars to cool for almost two days before nocc.


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #18999991 - 10/19/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

wow good stuff! i just found some growth on my jars today as well :laugh:

got 3 distinct spots on 1 jar and the others have only tiny little spots, but its a start!

im going to be making a grow log thread for myself so i can keep up with time frames and such. ill be adding pictures of everything ive done thus far, quick tips/guides on how i did it, and ill try to go over the mistakes ive made so others dont have to make the same. You should check it out once ive got it up tonight, itll be interesting to compare our grows side by side! especially since we really seem to be on the same track :laugh:


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: aomoriakuma]
    #19003323 - 10/20/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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wow good stuff! i just found some growth on my jars today as well :laugh:

got 3 distinct spots on 1 jar and the others have only tiny little spots, but its a start!

im going to be making a grow log thread for myself so i can keep up with time frames and such. ill be adding pictures of everything ive done thus far, quick tips/guides on how i did it, and ill try to go over the mistakes ive made so others dont have to make the same. You should check it out once ive got it up tonight, itll be interesting to compare our grows side by side! especially since we really seem to be on the same track :laugh:




Nice! I had to throw another jar out due to contam :frown:

Its ok.. gonna make up some more jars as soon as these spores arrive.

This jar is doing well though. I think there might be a contam in one of the two remaining jars. Will keep you all updated. It all looks like Trich.

My house is brand new. And I am doing this inside a room that hasnt been lived in ever.

I am also noccing using a SAB, gloves, alcohol, the works.. Not sure what happened.. O well. Will get on it and make some awesome fungus soon :smile:





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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: chilijamz]
    #19003382 - 10/20/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hm thats weird.. so far ive had no issues with contams.

what temp are you keeping your jars at? do you have any pics of what you think is trich?


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Re: Does this WBS look good to you guys? [Re: aomoriakuma]
    #19003468 - 10/20/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Does not matter that your house is brand new, there are still half a million contams per cubic foot of air. Every square inch of soil on earth has trich. Contams are everywhere, proper use of the SAB is just as important as using one.


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    #19007334 - 10/21/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Hm thats weird.. so far ive had no issues with contams.

what temp are you keeping your jars at? do you have any pics of what you think is trich?




Temp is 77. Does anyone know if its a bad idea to put my jars in my garage? They are in a red tote box that I could put in the garage if you think the warmer temps would be better.

Here are some pics of the 4 bad jars. I have one remaining standing strong. Nothing weird looking at all. Hope to be able to do g2g with that one :smile:



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    #19007344 - 10/21/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Trich loves warm weather, I believe.

Something to consider, you may wish to PC those contaminated jars before opening them to empty.


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    #19007434 - 10/21/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

77 is right where you want the temp.  so no need to move them to the warmer garage.


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    #19007569 - 10/21/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't read the whole thread, but you said you noc'd em up 30 minutes after taking them out of the PCer, are you sure they were cool enough? I normally wait overnight.


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I didn't read the whole thread, but you said you noc'd em up 30 minutes after taking them out of the PCer, are you sure they were cool enough? I normally wait overnight.




I waited almost 2 days before noccing them up. I waited 2 hours before PCing the WBS to let it dry thoroughly.


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    #19008088 - 10/21/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ew yeah that's definitely trich!

like the poster before me said, make sure you PC before opening. or if you want to be extra safe like me.. just throw those nasty jars out!

but 77 is perfect. My incubator keeps my jars at 77-78 average, and it seems to be working well.

also, your myc seemed to start growing so quick! i started 5 days before you, and only 2 of my jars are actually showing growth. that growth is VERY tiny as well.. like maybe 3 spots on each. the rest of my 6 jars are doing absolutely nothing :/

i think i got some weak spores though. i didn't buy from a sponsor, and after reading reviews, it seems a lot of people got bullshit syringes from them. i bought from a sponsor this time though, so here's to hoping that it all works out better this time around! i hope things go well for you on this next run too!


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    #19008494 - 10/21/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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ew yeah that's definitely trich!

like the poster before me said, make sure you PC before opening. or if you want to be extra safe like me.. just throw those nasty jars out!

but 77 is perfect. My incubator keeps my jars at 77-78 average, and it seems to be working well.

also, your myc seemed to start growing so quick! i started 5 days before you, and only 2 of my jars are actually showing growth. that growth is VERY tiny as well.. like maybe 3 spots on each. the rest of my 6 jars are doing absolutely nothing :/

i think i got some weak spores though. i didn't buy from a sponsor, and after reading reviews, it seems a lot of people got bullshit syringes from them. i bought from a sponsor this time though, so here's to hoping that it all works out better this time around! i hope things go well for you on this next run too!




Thanks. Yes! I ordered some more gear last night to be more sterile. The one jar is doing just fine. I think it may be a problem with how I nocced, or how I made the lids.

My control jar has no contams in it. But its completely sealed -- no GE hole.


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    #19008531 - 10/21/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Last Update: The last jar I had contains trich too. O well, will start it up again this week.

I am not going to post anymore updates to this thread as it is not relevant to the original topic. Will start a grow log on the next batches.

I am going to try out several lids, and will share my experience along the way.

Thanks again!


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    #19008910 - 10/21/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ouch, that blows, next time will be better. my spores just came today so ill be noccing tonight!

ive yet to start my grow log thread but its a work in progress(lots of info in there) ill link you to it when its done! you should do the same :laugh:


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    #19009592 - 10/21/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Will do! Waiting on everything to arrive. Purchased a larger PC so I can do the entire batch in one shot. Got an alcohol lamp so I don't have to use a lighter -- less chance of touching something else. Also bought some alcohol pads.. I think the paper towel could carry contams if not careful..

And a bunch of other little things.. Hoping for better results next time around..


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