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are you for or against guns or alcohol more
    #18987667 - 10/16/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well? If you had to choose which is more disruptive to our society?

I'm going to say alcohol more then gun...I love guns.
guns or alcohol
You may choose only one


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987674 - 10/16/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wut?


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18987688 - 10/16/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How can I answer that? What's confusing?


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987691 - 10/16/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I hope you mean guns and alchohol used together.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18987693 - 10/16/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is about 2 to 2.5 times more alcohol deaths than gun deaths in the US

Alcohol is more dangerous


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18987696 - 10/16/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like both at the same time... :drunk:  :guns:


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: AWS]
    #18987705 - 10/16/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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AWS said:
I hope you mean guns and alchohol used together.





Yes sorry my bad, I mean paired together not actually used together.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987713 - 10/16/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dark3st said:
I'm going to say alcohol more then gun...I love guns.



So you drank all your guns then made a thread.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987720 - 10/16/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a gun in case something needs killing but I am not really into guns.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: AWS]
    #18987723 - 10/16/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Neither is inherently disruptive to our society.

Human stupidity, weakness and greed are the only disruptive things in our society.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18987732 - 10/16/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:chugbeer: + :chugbeer: + :chugbeer: + :chugbeer: + :chugbeer::rofldrunk:


:guns: + :jackdaniels: = :rabble:                                :machinegun: + :suicide:


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Set]
    #18987737 - 10/16/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Set said:
Quote:

dark3st said:
I'm going to say alcohol more then gun...I love guns.



So you drank all your guns then made a thread.



I'm going to guess you just drank alcohol right?

I have 4 guns, .270, 7.62x54, .22LR, and a .380


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987781 - 10/16/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How the hell are guns disruptive to society?

It's all the drugs and alcohol that make people crazy.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987788 - 10/16/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Where is the option for religion?


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18987802 - 10/16/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love guns. Love em more then alcohol for that fact. I feel they have no effect on society that humans wouldn't already have. 

Humans are dangerous naturally but I wanted to know what other's thoughts on which was worse(alcohol or guns) on society.
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Repertoire89 said:
Where is the option for religion?





I didn't want to Ger banned


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18987808 - 10/16/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Can someone please tell me what the hell 'STAL' means?


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987810 - 10/16/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Where is the option for religion?




I didn't want to Ger banned




Why would you get banned for suggesting that religion is possibly as dangerous as guns or alcohol? Guns and alcohol don't start wars, brainwash or oppress anyone.

Guns are a tool.
Alcohol can lead to violence or accidents.
Religion breeds hate and ignorance in mass


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Magenta]
    #18987815 - 10/16/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Can someone please tell me what the hell 'STAL' means?




'Sir tokes a lot' quick google will tell you more


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987819 - 10/16/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

America doesn't have a gun problem... it's a mental health problem.

Alcohol should definitely be legal, if used responsibly


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987831 - 10/16/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:rofl:
Your justification for your view is that it's because you "love guns more than alcohol".
Totally relevant to which is more harmful.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18987836 - 10/16/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
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dark3st said:
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Repertoire89 said:
Where is the option for religion?




I didn't want to Ger banned




Why would you get banned for suggesting that religion is possibly as dangerous as guns or alcohol? Guns and alcohol don't start wars, brainwash or oppress anyone.

Guns are a tool.
Alcohol can lead to violence or accidents.
Religion breeds hate and ignorance





I got banned for disagreing with a mod over a opinion.  With the way mods are now its not worth the risk so I sensor my self. I agree on religion being the main cause of most problems but ya I do not want to be banned.

We aren't saying anything about legality.

And I'm not justifying anything I just said I love guns more than alcohol and that people are the main cause of anything.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987878 - 10/16/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dark3st said:

I got banned for disagreing with a mod over a opinion.  With the way mods are now its not worth the risk so I sensor my self. I agree on religion being the main cause of most problems but ya I do not want to be banned.




That's too bad, I'd rather just get banned if it came to that though. The day shroomery sponsors religion is the day I leave


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987888 - 10/16/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

 

spent a fine afternoon with some alcohol & firearms & friends this past weekend... found nothing about either to be socially disruptive... stupid people are the source of just about 100% of social disruption, imo...


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: leon trout]
    #18987899 - 10/16/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

leon trout said:
 

spent a fine afternoon with some alcohol & firearms & friends this past weekend... found nothing about either to be socially disruptive... stupid people are the source of just about 100% of social disruption, imo...




Dude! Is that the Remington R-15? I want that gun so bad. But I want it chambered in 300 AAC blackout.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987908 - 10/16/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dark3st said:
I have 4 guns, .270, 7.62x54, .22LR, and a .380



Those are calibers dude, not guns.

What makes/models are your firearms?

I have a Browning A-Bolt 7mm WSM, Romanian SAR-1 AK47 in 7.62x39 Soviet, Benelli Nova 12ga, Remington 870 20ga (the dove gun), oldass Savage 22lr semi auto rifle, and an oldass Luger pistol in 22lr.

Quote:

I'm going to guess you just drank alcohol right?



Negative.  I'm about to start though.  :cheers:

To comment on your original post, alcohol and guns are fun separately or when used together.  Both can be dangerous in their own ways when used separately, and most dangerous when used together. 

Isn't this stuff common sense?


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987920 - 10/16/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

dark3st said:
Dude! Is that the Remington R-15? I want that gun so bad. But I want it chambered in 300 AAC blackout.




yeah, .223... the coyote gun... good little gun, you can damn near strike matches with it...


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Set]
    #18987939 - 10/16/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know they are calibers.  Model doesn't mean much to me and people I shoot with we all go "hey I just bought a new gun" what Cal? "Blah blah" that's the end of it other then price lol

But anyway I have a mosin naget dragoon in 7.62×54, .270/.22 Marlin the .270 is the xl7, and the .380 is a north American arms.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987966 - 10/16/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

rock on man


Do you own any alcohol?


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Set]
    #18987975 - 10/16/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not against either. I'm against the morons who misuse them


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Set]
    #18987981 - 10/16/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not at the moment I drink about 5 times a year at most I shoot les than that lol haha

I only have marinol at home and not even any weed lol


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18987997 - 10/16/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Marinol is fuckin weird feeling.  Only got my hands on it once though.  Do you have a prescription?


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Set]
    #18988023 - 10/16/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ya for 2 years.  It feels identical to cannabis IME I prefer it to smoked weed for that matter. Better all around high and better anti anxiety effects too.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18988078 - 10/16/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dark3st said:
Quote:

Set said:
Quote:

dark3st said:
I'm going to say alcohol more then gun...I love guns.



So you drank all your guns then made a thread.



I'm going to guess you just drank alcohol right?

I have 4 guns, .270, 7.62x54, .22LR, and a .380



I don't like any of those calibers rex..they all suck...270 is a small deer round,7.62x54 are for yer 100 year old nagant,22 is ok for plinking and 380 is a womans pistol caliber :haha:


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988110 - 10/16/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

...so? Your wrong a lil a .270 is only .38 less then the .308 its one of the best guns for animals in my area and rated the top white tailed deer gun, it all depends on your needs nothing about my guns are better then yours bullshit.  If you don't know that then :facepalm:


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988113 - 10/16/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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7.62x54 are for yer 100 year old nagant



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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18988128 - 10/16/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The naget is a very powerful long range round, .380 is a .380 nothing bad about a pistol in .380 and if females use it better for me because they would want astrong enough round. And if you don't know they can l kill, and that's all that matters.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18988143 - 10/16/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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7.62x54 are for yer 100 year old nagant



learning guns





dude I know my guns,thats a soviet dragonov sniper rifle
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The naget is a very powerful long range round, .380 is a .380 nothing bad about a pistol in .380 and if females use it better for me because they would want astrong enough round. And if you don't know they can l kill, and that's all that matters.



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yea I heard you mention you had a NAA 380 which IMO is a decent gun..NAA makes pretty good guns along with there versions of derringers..the 7.62x54 round is good im just not a fan of nagants cuz everyone bought one from big 5 for 100 bux..id rather have a mauser


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18988147 - 10/16/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

First deer I took was with a Remington 2400 chambered in .270.  One of the best deer cartridges IMO if only it was as easy to acquire as 30-06.  You're guaranteed to find 30-06 in any backwoods shop that sells ammo.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18988157 - 10/16/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I bought mine for 170 before the hype, I love the gun, but will probably Never shoot it.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18988189 - 10/16/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i had a remington 700 in .270 that my folks gave me for my sixteenth birthday... loved that gun, still love the caliber... traded it for some dilaudid years ago when things got shitty...
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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: leon trout]
    #18988207 - 10/16/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:sad:

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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18989107 - 10/16/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i don't think either are really disruptive to society. there are definitely a lot of other things that are pretty disruptive, like prohibition.

people don't just go fuck shit up because they have alcohol and/or guns. the reason tends to be much deeper than that.

if alcohol or guns didn't exist people would have other substances to use and make mistakes on, or be violent/kill each other.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989109 - 10/17/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's actually a really great point and way to word it, I can't believe I didn't word it like that or think of it like that. My bad.


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    #18989137 - 10/17/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I like both at the same time... :drunk:  :guns:




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    #18989149 - 10/17/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

haha... i guess i'm a bit biased


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989152 - 10/17/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You should see this place. Haha


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18989160 - 10/17/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

some folks are for gun control
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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18989166 - 10/17/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

plenty of people.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989168 - 10/17/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18989175 - 10/17/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've used alcohol much more than I've used guns. In fact I've never really "used" a gun for anything other than amusement, and that only on a few occasions.

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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18989178 - 10/17/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

american tactical ar15

thank you :smile: just got it not that long ago, got some sights coming in the mail... although i have taken it shooting already just didn't hit much lol


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989185 - 10/17/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why don't more people post in the shooting and hunting forum? Keep me active in there!


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    #18989190 - 10/17/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

didn't know there was one on the shroomery. i use other gun forums tho


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    #18989211 - 10/17/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't know either lol. What sights you planning on getting? Also what Cal?


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    #18989246 - 10/17/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i bought a red dot sight and flip-up for backup since red dot relies on battery. its .223


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989253 - 10/17/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's what's up, you ever shoot a 300 AAC blackout? It has 16% more stopping power than a AK-47 round at 300 yards, I think you might like it. Look it up.


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    #18989295 - 10/17/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

looks a bit out of my price range... i was actually putting my money aside for an AK47 but everyone sold out where i was looking and a few days later i found the AR15 for 600 so i got it. can't afford to spend much more than 600 on a gun right now.

if money wasn't scarce for me, as well as availability for the market, i probably wouldn't have gotten this rifle but i was really surprised to get it at that price and for the same price i'm fine with getting more range than power.

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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: Patlal]
    #18989301 - 10/17/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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There is about 2 to 2.5 times more alcohol deaths than gun deaths in the US

Alcohol is more dangerous




Yes, and there are 2.5 times more gun deaths in the USA than gun deaths anywhere else in the world.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989306 - 10/17/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

are that number per capita? i don't see how that can be accurate unless every else has about the same rate of gun deaths.

i really don't believe that, i don't have a source, but i remember seeing a study show that australia has more gun crime than the US (australia has outlawed guns)


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    #18989314 - 10/17/13 01:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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looks a bit out of my price range... i was actually putting my money aside for an AK47 but everyone sold out where i was looking and a few days later i found the AR15 for 600 so i got it. can't afford to spend much more than 600 on a gun right now.

if money wasn't scarce for me, as well as availability for the market, i probably wouldn't have gotten this rifle but i was really surprised to get it at that price and for the same price i'm fine with getting more range than power.

also i am pretty sure i can get a 50 cal barrel in there, haven't looked into it yet but i will probably just change the caliber in the gun if i can.





Ya same here my price limit is about 400 but I'm going to save up for a .300 AAC blackout when I can or use my tax return. I want an AR just not in .223 or the usual calibers. 

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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: SurReality]
    #18989376 - 10/17/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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are that number per capita? i don't see how that can be accurate unless every else has about the same rate of gun deaths.

i really don't believe that, i don't have a source, but i remember seeing a study show that australia has more gun crime than the US (australia has outlawed guns)




Nope, I did make up the 2.5 to fit with the thread.... actually I researched this in the past, and at about four years ago the USA had eight times more gun deaths per capita than Australia.

Of course, the comparable rate of murder in general isnt 1:8. But still, the USA/Australia differenec was about four to one anyway.

The sad fact is, a lot of people get murdered in the USA, more than just about any other country.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989394 - 10/17/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here we go, Wiki has done the research more recently for me.

Homicide rates *by firearm per 100,000 people

United Kingdom 0.04
Australia 0.13
United States 3.6

Note that these are only confirmed homicides The real figure would be far greater

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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989417 - 10/17/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the sources all comes from a gun control website. http://www.gunpolicy.org/about


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    #18989430 - 10/17/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet ill give it a read and see what I can find. 

I just LOVe shooting guns.  There is just a feeling when shooting a high powered rifle its so fun at the same time but only when safety comes first.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: dark3st]
    #18989435 - 10/17/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i'm sorry i'm just a bit skeptical of a data from that gun control site specifically from australia.

of course you should be safe with guns, but the answer is not prohibition.


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    #18989437 - 10/17/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That may be so, but they reflect my own independant research four years ago, NOT taken from Wiki, Gun Control or anything like that, but crime statistic analysis. There's no point denying the figures. The ready availability of guns in the USA is reflected in the number of gun homicides. Its really that simple.

Ive heard all the arguements before, especially about 'how will we defend ourselves when the criminals have the guns but citizens dont".... well, the criminals will have the guns regardless. Gun control wont stop thhem getting firarms in the sightest.


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Re: are you for or against guns or alcohol more [Re: barong]
    #18989445 - 10/17/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i'm not denying it. i'm just pointing out what the source is.

it doesn't really matter though, the great thing about gun control is that there are so many different countries that go about it differently. if you don't want guns legal there are places to go to be happy... if only drugs were like that lol


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    #18989454 - 10/17/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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    #18989686 - 10/17/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it might be worth checking out gun crime stats instead of just homicide/deaths. also homicide rates instead of just gun homicides.

besides if australia has a 0.1% gun homicide while US has 0.3%, i think i take my "chances."


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it might be worth checking out gun crime stats instead of just homicide/deaths. also homicide rates instead of just gun homicides.

besides if australia has a 0.1% gun homicide while US has 0.3%, i think i take my "chances."



Lol I thought that was a valid link you procured lol my bad.

Also its not(not you) just people getting shot, it has a lot to do on where they are and what they are doing.  You don't just walk in the Hood to and get shot either, if your going ina nd your straight and not a threat, you will have No issues. Some people are aggressors with guns that find other aggressors with guns lol

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