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Peyote way church of God.
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So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.
Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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The church is just a way to get shit faced. You can just order other cacti online and get fucked up just as easily.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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Wouldn't go as far to say that. And I want the real deal. Peyote. Not pedro. Pedro is always weak and a pain.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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I like the thought of going to a reservation and being a part of a ceremony more than I like the thought of ordering it online and seeing how it goes. It's always good to be around those who are experienced with these types of substances, especially if it's your first time trying something new.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Is that the one where they have a mix of traditional hocus pocus with elements of Christianity thrown in? If so that probably wouldn't be my cup o' tea...but to each his own
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From my understand they have you drink they peyote tea then you go on a spirit walk yo the location you chose to trip at in the desert. Backpack, matches water and a sleeping bag under the stars
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Idk if it is the christian if so i wouldn't be a fan.
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Mescalean said: Wouldn't go as far to say that. And I want the real deal. Peyote. Not pedro. Pedro is always weak and a pain.
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HeyImShroomy said: I like the thought of going to a reservation and being a part of a ceremony more than I like the thought of ordering it online and seeing how it goes. It's always good to be around those who are experienced with these types of substances, especially if it's your first time trying something new.
Best point I've heard ever on the subject. Kinda like going in a crack house, learning how to hit that rock just right.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Yes, its related to Christianity. Sorry to burst your bubble
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God forbid you actually LEARN about the deity that created the cactus instead of getting "High"
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As far as I'm aware, most Native American beliefs don't have much to do with Christianity. They believe more in Totems (animal spirits). Most Native Americans believe that your spirit is guided by 9 different animals, and that one animal in particular will be with you your whole life. But when it comes down to it, they look at the body of God as being the land on which they walk. They hold nature in very high esteem.
I had a Native American chief tell me that my Guide and Protector was a Wolf, so now I have one tattooed on my whole torso. I took that shit pretty seriously haha.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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How is Christianity any better or worse than any other religion IME they are all the same from reading all them books.
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Mescalean said: Idk if it is the christian if so i wouldn't be a fan.
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I wanted to learn from a shaman... Not a false "god" which has been a fear mongering tactic for centuries now. I want the full experience. I've had my mescaline fuck around trips. This is meant for spiritual growth for me.
If i wanted to fuck around I'd order shit online like mentioned above.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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Mescalean said: Idk if it is the christian if so i wouldn't be a fan.
Have you read the Koran, any of the Vedic texts, or the Bible? Pretty sure they are different as fuck
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Ya they are very similar. They all have the same message "be better" while it's all just a con.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Thats one think I've always admired about the natives. My mothers side is partially native, and not the .16 percent bs.
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As far as I'm aware, most Native American beliefs don't have much to do with Christianity. They believe more in Totems (animal spirits). Most Native Americans believe that your spirit is guided by 9 different animals, and that one animal in particular will be with you your whole life. But when it comes down to it, they look at the body of God as being the land on which they walk. They hold nature in very high esteem.
I had a Native American chief tell me that my Guide and Protector was a Wolf, so now I have one tattooed on my whole torso. I took that shit pretty seriously haha.
Right right, but I thought I remembered reading somewhere that this particular church that is allowed to use peyote is this sort of blend of traditional beliefs with some Christianity thrown in. I totally dig native american culture though, if it was strictly that I'd be down.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: I wanted to learn from a shaman... Not a false "god" which has been a fear mongering tactic for centuries now. I want the full experience. I've had my mescaline fuck around trips. This is meant for spiritual growth for me.
If i wanted to fuck around I'd order shit online like mentioned above.
Look up 2c-b for shamatic use.
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So in other words.....if there is anything about the Truth involved, its bullshit. But as long as you get a cool trippy animal totem and medicine to abuse for fun, you guys are on board?
Not trying to be an ass just dont wanna confuse what you are saying
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Mescalean said: Idk if it is the christian if so i wouldn't be a fan.
Have you read the Koran, any of the Vedic texts, or the Bible? Pretty sure they are different as fuck
I actually think Christianity and Islam are pretty similar, at least in the broad scheme of things. Both equally kooky in my personal opinion, I do find the pretty interesting though.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Lol
Spiritual growth starts with intention and self discipline. Going to some peyote church aint gonna do shit if you're not prepared to receive the knowledge. Which, judging by your posts, you aren't.
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Mescalean said: I wanted to learn from a shaman... Not a false "god" which has been a fear mongering tactic for centuries now. I want the full experience. I've had my mescaline fuck around trips. This is meant for spiritual growth for me.
If i wanted to fuck around I'd order shit online like mentioned above.
What spiritual growth? Tell me whats gonna change after you take this substance? What are you gonna do differently? Why do you need to exploit the beliefs of others in the name of "Spirituality"?
How do you feel comfortable bullshitting a native people and their beliefs (some of which may include legit Christianity), but you choose to nit pick what works "For you". Is that even spirituality at all? What the fuck do you think is gonna happen son? You are gonna have some life changing experience that induces a sense of bliss for the rest of your days as you work on an organic farm until you die?
Wake up
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Not trying to be an ass just dont wanna confuse what you are saying 
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So your saying your god is the truth? Whos to say thats correct. Look at everything that has happened in the name of christ...
Imo the native way is the truth not some religion that been the root of so many problems for how long
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Almond Flour said: So in other words.....if there is anything about the Truth involved, its bullshit. But as long as you get a cool trippy animal totem and medicine to abuse for fun, you guys are on board?
Not trying to be an ass just dont wanna confuse what you are saying 
Truth? What truth? I sort of agree with you though.
That every single one of us is hell bound and only through Jesus Christ and his sacrifice will we ever come close to enjoying something of a rebirth
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Mescalean said: So your saying your god is the truth? Whos to say thats correct. Look at everything that has happened in the name of christ...
Imo the native way is the truth not some religion that been the root of so many problems for how long
What the fuck do you think went on over here son prior to the europeans? Do you think it was some fucking garden of Eden where people walked around with halos on their heads......prancing through the fucking fields, and living a blissful existence?
Guess again BOI! They were slave owners, and war mongers JUST LIKE US. With some pretty twisted practices in the name of their "Spirituality". They were no different in any way shape or form
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"God is the way, the truth, and the light, and no one blah blah blah.."
Its been a scam since I learned logical thinking. Again this is my opinion.
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Almond Flour said: So in other words.....if there is anything about the Truth involved, its bullshit. But as long as you get a cool trippy animal totem and medicine to abuse for fun, you guys are on board?
Not trying to be an ass just dont wanna confuse what you are saying 
Truth? What truth? I sort of agree with you though.
That every single one of us is hell bound and only through Jesus Christ and his sacrifice will we ever come close to enjoying something of a rebirth
You seem awfully sure of that statement.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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dark3st said: "God is the way, the truth, and the light, and no one blah blah blah.."
Its been a scam since I learned logical thinking. Again this is my opinion.
Theres nothing wrong with logic. The bible commands the cultivation of wisdom. But just because you believe you can "Think" your way out of everything doesnt mean you should worship logic. Sometimes our minds are our biggest enemies (Just as a schizophrenic), Fuck even Buddha taught that.
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Judging by my posts as in I fuck around. I'd like to think I have plenty of discipline. Been clean for over a year from all opiates. Disciplined diet, workout regimen, schedule.
I was under the impression from the website that I would be given the tea, sent out, then come back once sobered up. And how am I suppose to know what it will teach me spiritually?
I am aware of plenty of shit I would need to contemplate and think about during the trip. Past selfish behavior. Actions towards my significant other. Jealousy/insecurity, no direction in career choices.
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Mescalean said: Imo the native way is the truth not some religion that been the root of so many problems for how long
Ehhhhh not so fast bucko, I think you should read a bit of history. A great deal of native cultures aren't exactly all peace, love, nature.....There were plenty of Native American tribes who did some seriously fucked up shit in their time, they probably would have scalped you, raped your wife and children etc.....
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Oh look you making assumptions on nothing I actually said.
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Its been a scam since I learned logical thinking. Again this is my opinion.
Theres nothing wrong with logic. The bible commands the cultivation of wisdom. But just because you believe you can "Think" your way out of everything doesnt mean you should worship logic. Sometimes our minds are our biggest enemies (Just as a schizophrenic), Fuck even Buddha taught that.
People like you have always been quite an enigma for me.....you seem like a pretty smart guy, and I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything I'm just very curious....Were you raised a christian? I was but I just could never take any of it seriously, it just seemed like such an obvious human construct.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: Judging by my posts as in I fuck around. I'd like to think I have plenty of discipline. Been clean for over a year from all opiates. Disciplined diet, workout regimen, schedule.
I was under the impression from the website that I would be given the tea, sent out, then come back once sobered up. And how am I suppose to know what it will teach me spiritually?
I am aware of plenty of shit I would need to contemplate and think about during the trip. Past selfish behavior. Actions towards my significant other. Jealousy/insecurity, no direction in career choices.
The list goes on
Any Idea why you cant do that right now? Without exploiting the native Americans for their drugs you wanna take?
Hate to break it to you kid but you are in for a HARD life if you can only properly evaluate your life and actions with a head full of peyote. Sounds to me like you know damn well what you need to do, and the last thing THEY need is another post adolescent kid trying to score a few cacti
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I've read history books. I know all about the comanche. I like the respect they have fore nature. Not the scalping or even canabalism is some cases
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dark3st said: "God is the way, the truth, and the light, and no one blah blah blah.."
Its been a scam since I learned logical thinking. Again this is my opinion.
Theres nothing wrong with logic. The bible commands the cultivation of wisdom. But just because you believe you can "Think" your way out of everything doesnt mean you should worship logic. Sometimes our minds are our biggest enemies (Just as a schizophrenic), Fuck even Buddha taught that.
People like you have always been quite an enigma for me.....you seem like a pretty smart guy, and I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything I'm just very curious....Were you raised a christian? I was but I just could never take any of it seriously, it just seemed like such an obvious human construct.
Not really, I went to church from time to time with my Step dad, but my father cant stand Christianity. My mom doesnt really practice it, and I didnt even find out my Grandma was a catholic until she was close to her death bed
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Mescalean said: I've read history books. I know all about the comanche. I like the respect they have fore nature. Not the scalping or even canabalism is some cases
Thats great, now wheres the part where you need to blasphemy against Christianity and abuse sacred medicine in order to appreciate nature? Or join their spiritual system simply because "You like the culture"?
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Once again its not an abuse of the natives drugs if I'm looking for spiritual insight.
Made this thread to see if anyone else here has done this.
You seem to be extremely opinionated and forceful with those opinions. Not very christian like. Nvm spot on.
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dark3st said: "God is the way, the truth, and the light, and no one blah blah blah.."
Its been a scam since I learned logical thinking. Again this is my opinion.
Theres nothing wrong with logic. The bible commands the cultivation of wisdom. But just because you believe you can "Think" your way out of everything doesnt mean you should worship logic. Sometimes our minds are our biggest enemies (Just as a schizophrenic), Fuck even Buddha taught that.
People like you have always been quite an enigma for me.....you seem like a pretty smart guy, and I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything I'm just very curious....Were you raised a christian? I was but I just could never take any of it seriously, it just seemed like such an obvious human construct.
Not really, I went to church from time to time with my Step dad, but my father cant stand Christianity. My mom doesnt really practice it, and I didnt even find out my Grandma was a catholic until she was close to her death bed 
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: Once again its not an abuse of the natives drugs if I'm looking for spiritual insight.
Made this thread to see if anyone else here has done this.
You seem to be extremely opinionated and forceful with those opinions. Not very christian like. Nvm spot on.
Damn right its spot on 
Forgive me if my tolerance for bullshit spouted from 18 yr olds is at a minimum today. Anyone with a brain and see right through you. You dont need spiritual insight, you need integrity and discipline instead of expecting drugs to give you the rewards.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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And personally I've always been interested in other cultures and religions. Multiple pagans in my family too which is an extremely interesting religion. And 22 years old. Apologizing would mean something if you didn't come off as a complete dick towards someone else wanting to explore a different culture and ideas
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: And personally I've always been interested in other cultures and religions. Multiple pagans in my family too which is an extremely interesting religion. And 22 years old. Apologizing would mean something if you didn't come off as a complete dick towards someone else wanting to explore a different culture and ideas
I have absolutely NO problem with someone exploring new ideas that excite them. MY problem is when the person obviously cares about one thing (getting high), has a bullshit hang up against Christianity, and is willing to cheat a system who is LUCKY enough to use a sacred medicine in order to _____(Insert bullshit reason here)______.
Nothing about what you are saying shows to me, or the native people you wanna rip off, that you are ready for some profound insight. You said it yourself, you already know what it is you need to do. Eating a psychedelic and reflecting on the same thing over and over isnt going to "get it done" and may even make you prone to a bad trip.
Not to mention when you take these substances you better make damn sure you are ready mentally, and spiritually. Im pretty sure it was Hunter Thompson who said "Acid finds you". Spiritually you already know what you need to do, and given your current attitude against the son of God I dont forsee anything positive coming from your experience. At BEST you will get a psychedelic afterglow, eat a few more veggies for a couple weeks, and slide back into your old habits until you are right back where you started. But it wont stop there.....OOOOOOOOO no 
....Soon you will be looking at other cultures, trying other drugs, maybe clinging to science or (God forbid) other Gods (and yes Universe worship counts as another God). And you will impede your spiritual growth like none other, walking through live without God is a dangerous state to be in and this shit hole we are all forced to walk in is pretty dangerous.
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Let me put it this way then. I will not, and do not plan of accepting jesus as the son of "god" now or anytime soon.
Exploitation would me going to "trip balls" I want to meet my spirit guide. I want to witness and learn about the ceremony behind it.
My intention is the furthest thing from exploitation. Cut it with all the hang ups and knit picking / assumptions about my intentions. And all because I don't accept your god? This is exactly why I refuse to accept christ. This is what I'm shown from christianity day in and out.
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its mescaline it can be synthesized! Nothing sacred about a drug.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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Your also not getting a handful of other chems thats included in peyote that makes a difference in the experience.
Id rather use synth mesc for a show or fucking around.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: Let me put it this way then. I will not, and do not plan of accepting jesus as the son of "god" now or anytime soon.
Exploitation would me going to "trip balls" I want to meet my spirit guide. I want to witness and learn about the ceremony behind it.
My intention is the furthest thing from exploitation. Cut it with all the hang ups and knit picking / assumptions about my intentions. And all because I don't accept your god? This is exactly why I refuse to accept christ. This is what I'm shown from christianity day in and out.
I truely 110 percent believe that given 12 hours alone in the desert with my own headspace Ill be avle to disect, interpet, and work towards bettering certain aspects of myself.
So we are gonna flip flop now eh? Now its about being a fucking anthropologist eh
Good try son, good try. But one day you will fall into line, and the sooner the better. I promise its the folks like you who end up right wing conservative gung hoe psychotic Christian once they turn 55 and want to turn back a lifetime of sin.
Good luck bud, but dont expect me or any other Christian to rub your stomach and sing soothing songs as you injure yourself and others around you. Not to mention go against the word of God You will learn the easy way, or the hard way and you will have no one to blame but yourself when you choose to purposely walk away from God and that will cause the greatest suffering of it all.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: Your also not getting a handful of other chems thats included in peyote that makes a difference in the experience.
Id rather use synth mesc for a show or fucking around.
Tou are missing the point it can all be synthesized. Its just a drug and nothing more.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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How exactly am I flip flopping? Me wanting to experience a different spiritual experience than goin to church? Your the one who won't shut the fuck up about jebus and all that nonsense. Bible bounce somewhere else. Sorry you couldn't save me.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: How exactly am I flip flopping? Me wanting to experience a different spiritual experience than goin to church? Your the one who won't shut the fuck up about jebus and all that nonsense. Bible bounce somewhere else. Sorry you couldn't save me.
Dont take this the wrong way son, but I dont give a rats ass if you choose to walk yourself to Hell.
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Almond Flour said: Good luck bud, but dont expect me or any other Christian to rub your stomach and sing soothing songs as you injure yourself and others around you. Not to mention go against the word of God You will learn the easy way, or the hard way and you will have no one to blame but yourself when you choose to purposely walk away from God and that will cause the greatest suffering of it all. 
What if I'm a good person? I like to think I'm a pretty decent human being, I'm kind to everyone I meet, I help people who need help, I'm generous, I treat everyone how I would like to be treated. I don't kill, steal, rip people off etc....And I do all of this because I think we are all one in the same, I'm you and you are me and all that good stuff and not for any "hedging my bets", appeasing a higher power type deal....
So do I also have to burn in eternal hell fire with the murders, rapists, and other general assholes?
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I think you have a better chance than most christians sandman. Thats IF hell exists. Or any of the bible babble.
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What if I'm a good person? I like to think I'm a pretty decent human being, I'm kind to everyone I meet, I help people who need help, I'm generous, I treat everyone how I would like to be treated. I don't kill, steal, rip people off etc....And I do all of this because I think we are all one in the same, I'm you and you are me and all that good stuff and not for any "hedging my bets", appeasing a higher power type deal....
So do I also have to burn in eternal hell fire with the murders, rapists, and other general assholes?
Yes, and ironically its probably the murders, rapists, and general assholes who are more likely to make it to Heaven (Matthew 21:31). You, me, and everyone else here will fall short of Gods glory. Fuck throw God out of it for a second, do you align up with your own standards? I'm a nice guy too but Ive got some pretty crummy qualities. Sometimes our hearts are in a different places than our actions. Do you look at other women lustfully who are married? Fuck I couldnt STOP looking at my hot married Spanish teacher today.  Did you know you are on par with an adulterer (Matthew 5:27-28). Have you ever hated someone? Did you know God views hate the same as murder (1 John 3:15)
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: I think you have a better chance than most christians sandman. Thats IF hell exists. Or any of the bible babble.
And this is my problem with you bud. This right here. YOu claim its all bullshit babble, and yet that same bullshit babble is APART of the Church and experience you seek to take part in. If you wanna go eat Peyote with a peyote Shaman, than do it! But dont go and exploit a church who is lucky enough to have legal exemption for a privilege that is VERY hard to obtain.
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Mescalean said: I think you have a better chance than most christians sandman. Thats IF hell exists. Or any of the bible babble.
I just can't wrap my head around how someone could possibly chose to worship a deity who will sentence generally good people to an ETERNITY of suffering simply for not believing in him. I mean is that really someone you would want to hold in high regard, does that not seem rather petty? I mean we are talking about an ETERNITY of unimaginable suffering.....shit I don't even think most of societies scumbags (murders, rapists, thieves etc..) deserve an eternity! Maybe 100 years tops!
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
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I stated before I wanted a shamanic experience that has nothing to do with christianity. The website says no views are pushed and people of any faith are welcome. I need to look into it more but if it does have to do with christ forget it I'll find a sweatlodge. Which honestly I'm starting to feel is the better bet
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Just get some 2c-b to get your experience.
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Almond Flour said: Good luck bud, but dont expect me or any other Christian to rub your stomach and sing soothing songs as you injure yourself and others around you. Not to mention go against the word of God You will learn the easy way, or the hard way and you will have no one to blame but yourself when you choose to purposely walk away from God and that will cause the greatest suffering of it all. 
What if I'm a good person? I like to think I'm a pretty decent human being, I'm kind to everyone I meet, I help people who need help, I'm generous, I treat everyone how I would like to be treated. I don't kill, steal, rip people off etc....And I do all of this because I think we are all one in the same, I'm you and you are me and all that good stuff and not for any "hedging my bets", appeasing a higher power type deal....
So do I also have to burn in eternal hell fire with the murders, rapists, and other general assholes?
Yes, and ironically its probably the murders, rapists, and general assholes who are more likely to make it to Heaven (Matthew 21:31). You, me, and everyone else here will fall short of Gods glory. Fuck throw God out of it for a second, do you align up with your own standards? I'm a nice guy too but Ive got some pretty crummy qualities. Sometimes our hearts are in a different places than our actions. Do you look at other women lustfully who are married? Fuck I couldnt STOP looking at my hot married Spanish teacher today.  Did you know you are on par with an adulterer (Matthew 5:27-28). Have you ever hated someone? Did you know God views hate the same as murder (1 John 3:15)
Does that not seems completely fucked to you though? Would you not want to defy such a petty, irrational, dictatorial deity? Why on earth would the omnipotent, all powerful, creator of the universe feel the need to create us, give us free will and then send those who do not believe in him to burn in eternal hell fire, does that not seem like the most sick twisted joke anyone could possibly conjure up. I dunno but the God of the bible seems pretty insecure IMO.
I'm certainly far from perfect, I have many shortcomings, but all in all I think I'm a fairly decent human being. If the God of the bible does exist (I, personally am extremely doubtful of this) then I would rather burn in hell then worship such a vile being.....
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Almond Flour said: But dont go and exploit a church who is lucky enough to have legal exemption for a privilege that is VERY hard to obtain.
IMO it's a little bizarre that a supposedly secular government has put itself in the position of deciding which spiritual beliefs are sincere and which aren't. If this particular church welcomes people of different beliefs though, I don't see how they would be exploited by such people participating.
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Its all about connecting with nature, with experienced inspirational natives surrounding you. Who wants to learn about some boring christian fables? When the native's connection with nature is soo much more interesting.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LSDreams]
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Oh ya because an animal spirit is so much more interesting and not made up at all
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LSDreams]
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Man i really hope this all explodes in op's face and he comes back posting the typical prodigal son, return to christ story everyone's heard. I just think it'll be funny.
Personally i have a feeling i'll end up the same way, i mean i still believe in the christian god, but i feel a god majority of christians are all as lost as the people they think they're saving (if not worse). The epiphone will probably be more around how my beliefs have changed and warped to what they are now. I mean everything i believe has proven true through my whole life, so it's right for now... but i am always willing to accept that i'm 100% wrong.
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I love when they come back from trips and they find the spiritual way of and meaning of life and ramble about their trip that sounds equally as dumb.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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dark3st said: I love when they come back from trips and they find the spiritual way of and meaning of life and ramble about their trip that sounds equally as dumb.
Yeah tripping never completely changed my spirituality like i see some people claim, but it has warped it to what i believe to be true. The problem is if i believed something to be true before a trip, what makes the new belief anymore true? Every single human being knows the truth to the universe THEY live in. It'd be like describing colors to a blind person. Idk i just think it's funny that at the beginning of the post op was wanting to learn a different culture through the use of peyote. But oh no, christianity, the religion i've avoided since i moved out (or whenever you started avoiding it). But op isn't a christian based peyote eating culture a different one than the christianity you grew up with? I'd be pumped to learn what sort of different perspective this church says mescaline gave them. I mean more than anything it shows the harmlessness these drugs can have on the mind. I mean, if all of a sudden there was a drug that instantly had you worshipping animals and dancing around naked for the rest of your life where's the insight?
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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Oh ya because an animal spirit is so much more interesting and not made up at all 
I didnt say it wasnt made up, did I? They are both made up.
Christianity IS boring IMO. I should know, I went through all of christian Sunday school when I was younger. At least natives stick to the bare bones of their beliefs. While Christianity is constantly changing to adapt to popular society.
Doesnt it make more sense to connect with nature, which we already know exists rather than a god that has nothing at all to offer??
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Havent seen 2c-b around here for years man. And it wouldn't be the same experience. Id be down but it's not the same as an actual peyote experience
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.
Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.
yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day you recover
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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No insight lol I don't know why people can't see that. A Drug is a drug is a drug. But to some people drugs are "magical" lol what horse shit.
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Mescalean said: Havent seen 2c-b around here for years man. And it wouldn't be the same experience. Id be down but it's not the same as an actual peyote experience
Look up how some shamans prefer it to mescaline. They will both make you trip up and that's the point right?
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Mescalean said: So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.
Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.
yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day yourecover
You mean a $200 drug buy.
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Almond Flour said: Good luck bud, but dont expect me or any other Christian to rub your stomach and sing soothing songs as you injure yourself and others around you. Not to mention go against the word of God You will learn the easy way, or the hard way and you will have no one to blame but yourself when you choose to purposely walk away from God and that will cause the greatest suffering of it all. 
What if I'm a good person? I like to think I'm a pretty decent human being, I'm kind to everyone I meet, I help people who need help, I'm generous, I treat everyone how I would like to be treated. I don't kill, steal, rip people off etc....And I do all of this because I think we are all one in the same, I'm you and you are me and all that good stuff and not for any "hedging my bets", appeasing a higher power type deal....
So do I also have to burn in eternal hell fire with the murders, rapists, and other general assholes?
Yes, and ironically its probably the murders, rapists, and general assholes who are more likely to make it to Heaven (Matthew 21:31). You, me, and everyone else here will fall short of Gods glory. Fuck throw God out of it for a second, do you align up with your own standards? I'm a nice guy too but Ive got some pretty crummy qualities. Sometimes our hearts are in a different places than our actions. Do you look at other women lustfully who are married? Fuck I couldnt STOP looking at my hot married Spanish teacher today.  Did you know you are on par with an adulterer (Matthew 5:27-28). Have you ever hated someone? Did you know God views hate the same as murder (1 John 3:15)
Does that not seems completely fucked to you though? Would you not want to defy such a petty, irrational, dictatorial deity? Why on earth would the omnipotent, all powerful, creator of the universe feel the need to create us, give us free will and then send those who do not believe in him to burn in eternal hell fire, does that not seem like the most sick twisted joke anyone could possibly conjure up. I dunno but the God of the bible seems pretty insecure IMO.
I'm certainly far from perfect, I have many shortcomings, but all in all I think I'm a fairly decent human being. If the God of the bible does exist (I, personally am extremely doubtful of this) then I would rather burn in hell then worship such a vile being.....
I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree for now
He doesnt do a thing, you send yourself there.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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Mescalean said: So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.
Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.
yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day yourecover
You mean a $200 drug buy.
no..theyre really nice people and that 200 donation is basically a lifetime pass to go its really neat to trip in the desert by yerself
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I'm not trolling I'm making a valid point. Its a drug deal. You can paint a red dog black but its still a red dog
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Oh and I only trip once a year if that so don't talk about what you don't know.
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would it make you happy if we weren't allowed to do peyote??huh??
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And I guess i never thought of thw chistian/native mix as its own culture. Ill consider this. Its just the same reason i never went to NA or anything like it
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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So learning sponge youve gone? One of my concerns is the wild life around there, just the tupical coyote? Javelina? Those things are fuckin mean. I figure winterish would be good. Snakes are away and slow.
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No I could give a shit what people do just don't bullshit it by saying its for religion when its to get fucked up.
And don't say its a donation when its a drug deal.
And if it were for religious use then you shouldn't have to pay anyway. Religion is a business to everyone but those practicing it.
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Maybe in the eyes of an american drone. But the rest of us have souls, and spiritual ceremonies aren't about getting high on drugs... its about a unique experience for you to realize and learn new concepts.
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Mescalean said: So I'm sure like many others here I've wanted to try peyote for while. I'm lucky enough to live in AZ where the native american church and peyote way church are.
Has anyone had any experiences with either place? Been wanting to make the drive up there for a while.
yes..i live about 50 miles from Wilcox which is where the PWC is....it 200 dollar donation to the church for your loph journey..the first day you cleanse 2nd day you drink the tea,3rd day you recover
Thats very interesting brother, what does the cleansing consist of?
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dark3st said: No I could give a shit what people do just don't bullshit it by saying its for religion when its to get fucked up.
And don't say its a donation when its a drug deal.
And if it were for religious use then you shouldn't have to pay anyway. Religion is a business to everyone but those practicing it.
they basically let you stay there for 3 days other than the night you trip,feed you,provide the loph,and will teach you how to grow and much more I mean cmon dude this place is for people to trip and find there own spirituality..they don't even preach at you..you cant just let people come and do it free if you wanna do free peyote get accepted in the Native American church
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yeah pretty much,snakes too...yer not scared of those are you??
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I'm not a drone, I'm a scientific thinker, using a drug to see God is nothing but electrical impulses in the brain causing an experience not that the actually does anything mystical.
Opium makes me feel closer to God, where's my religion? Cocaine too Hey what about belladonna or crack hey why not Meth for religious use at least with psychosis I can actually see and talk to entity's and believe its real.
Hey schizophrenia should be marketed as an religious experience because it sounds about the same.
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you've never done cacti have you?
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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I am an 8th navajo... Whats the limit for being accepted into the native American church? And snakes nah. Mountain lions... Yeah. Javelina, yeah...
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Yes, I've also done LSD, shrooms, DOB, salvia, mxe, dxm, DPH, 25i-nbome, and so much more. It's all drugs that's it and all they ever will be.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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dark3st said: I'm not a drone, I'm a scientific thinker, using a drug to see God is nothing but electrical impulses in the brain causing an experience not that the actually does anything mystical.
Opium makes me feel closer to God, where's my religion? Cocaine too Hey what about belladonna or crack hey why not Meth for religious use at least with psychosis I can actually see and talk to entity's and believe its real.
Hey schizophrenia should be marketed as an religious experience because it sounds about the same.
Okay you are straight trolling now.
Im all for science, and I support 100% the M-Theory of how our universe was formed. I dont think anyone said anything about trying to see god or the such.
You may not think so.. but i think its interesting to have some insight on different cultural ceremonies.
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That one post was a half trolling. I do feel closer to earth/god when I use opiates and feel more open.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
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My impression of Peyote Way Church is that they are way fucking over priced and way too capitalistic about the whole venture for me to want to have anything to do with them. Spiritual experiences are not to be bought and sold. That's not to say that compensation and a bit of profit is unreasonable, but the way these people are capitalizing on these traditions makes me want to have nothing to do with them.
I could be entirely off base and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm only sharing my impression based on what research I've done on the issue.
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?? I have Marinol why do I need weed? They both feel identical and it last 10x longer You don't make any sense you duck. Weed also has no religious attributes either.
And your getting off topic because your not as smart as you think you are so your deflecting
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yeah you get yer sorry ass marinol for yer shitting problem
maybe if you weren't so full of show it wouldn't be overflowing out of yer ass and mouth
you wish you had some beer you broke duck
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Oh look your flaming me, you always get like this when your wrong your a perfect alcoholic stereotype.
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yeah you get yer sorry ass marinol for yer shitting problem
maybe if you weren't so full of shit it wouldn't be overflowing out of yer ass and mouth
you wish you had some beer you broke fuck
Why do I want beer its for fuck ups. And its not a shitting problem as well. I understand your not to bright but are you sure you want everyone to know?
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um dude you talk about having to take 15 shits a day in the ca thread,id call that a problem
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yeah you get yer sorry ass marinol for yer shitting problem
maybe if you weren't so full of shit it wouldn't be overflowing out of yer ass and mouth
you wish you had some beer you broke fuck
Why do I want beer its for fuck ups. And its not a shitting problem as well. I understand your not to bright but are you sure you want everyone to know?
I think the conclusion to this argument, is that youre narrow minded and only see drugs as the rest of society sees them. (Which is confusing, when you obviously use them) What do you use them for??
Theres soo much more to them then just getting you high, I admire the creativity spikes i get.
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learning sponge said: and yer not getting any beer even if you wanted because according to your recent posts,yer broke,living with yer unemployed daddy,and have a serious shitting problem
Being high doesn't mean there is not creativity. I'm speaking about use in religion. I'm not narrow minded just not an idiot.
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Yeah, apparently natives see dividing who is a native and who isn't by % they are helping in a cultural genocide of their own people. My 1/8th should be enough for the NAC. 200 does seem a bit high for a donation.
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dark3st said: No I could give a shit what people do just don't bullshit it by saying its for religion when its to get fucked up.
And don't say its a donation when its a drug deal.
And if it were for religious use then you shouldn't have to pay anyway. Religion is a business to everyone but those practicing it.
Im sorry, but this is narrow minded.
No one is even talking about religion anymore, you seem to be concentrating on your perception that drugs are only used to get high.
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They are, that doesn't mean it has no creative attributes or better insight to ones self. Its just an excuse to get fucked up no matter how you spin it. And there is nothing wrong with that and people need to stop lying to themselves.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
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I think yer full of shit about ever doing cactus
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Dude don't even bother arguing with that troll. Ain't worth your time. Don't let him get you riled up.
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Seriously dude, that user is a total troll. Got me banned a while back for making an unsavory joke in the pub. Not a good member. There's a reason he has blocked his ratings.
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ok chris yer right man
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Im pretty sure its been reported aloooooot that mescaline and peyote are two different trips.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
#18988832 - 10/16/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mescaline is the primary psychoactive active ingredient in peyote. There are however many other compounds in peyote that are theorized to be psychoactive or synergistic with the mescaline, but as far as I know it hasn't been very thoroughly studied for a deeper understanding.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: dark3st]
#18988865 - 10/16/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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LSDreams said: you seem to be concentrating on your perception that drugs are only used to get high.
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dark3st said: They are, that doesn't mean it has no creative attributes or better insight to ones self.
Stop pushing your opinions on everyone else.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LSDreams]
#18988882 - 10/16/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Back on topic... what is the cleansing part of the ceremony learning sponge?
And, I apologize for feeding into his trolling. It took up way to much your thread OP.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LSDreams]
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Its chill. Im excited to trip in the desert. No background noise, just whatever else is around you life wise.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: Mescalean]
#18989106 - 10/16/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive always dreamed of actually participating in a tribal kinda ceremony. It'd be cool to venture into the jungle in south america and experience their ceremony.
Unless it ends up similar to the ceremony on Altered States where the dude devolves into a primate and starts eating goats.
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Re: Peyote way church of God. [Re: LSDreams]
#18989135 - 10/17/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hear the loph is perddy good there...its cheaper than a trip to south America...chrismans right about the capitalism but in the end it is just you,the peyote,and the desert....its gonna get cold at night real soon,you need to literally go now as Wilcox gets pretty cold at night in fall
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Yeah I was figuring its a higher elevation that the tempe/scottsdale area. I live in old town and the weather if fucking beautiful today. Idk if i want a day trip or night
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