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Vacume sealed
    #1894421 - 09/08/03 03:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Questions of this nature have been asked before, but I don't think this one, so here goes...

If fresh mushrooms were vacuum sealed, would they keep for significant periods of time?

And in the same vein:

Do ziplock bags allow air exchange over long period's of time? (i.e. would a vacuum sealed ziplock eventually allow in some oxygen?)

My theory is that without oxygen, the bacteria that break down the mushrooms could not do so, thus they would keep, but I would appreciate the advice of anyone who has tried this, or heard of it being tried.

Many thanks


P.S please don't reply saying "you should dry them out", or something similar. Even just to be funny because I asked you not too. Seriously. Just say no.


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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: OJK]
    #1894460 - 09/08/03 03:48 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

if you vaccum seal them they will bruise a nice shade of blue !!!

if you freeze them fresh they will freeze but as you as you thaw them out they will be a mushy mess.

you canot win!!! hahahahaha..

just dry them ! :tongue:


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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: OJK]
    #1894539 - 09/08/03 04:05 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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If fresh mushrooms were vacuum sealed, would they keep for significant periods of time?




No they wouldn't. Anaerobic bacteria would still be able to consume the mushrooms. This is why food is canned; it's sterilized during the canning process.

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Do ziplock bags allow air exchange over long period's of time? (i.e. would a vacuum sealed ziplock eventually allow in some oxygen?)





Ziplock bags don't even come close to sealing airtight. You could not vacuum seal a ziplock bag; it would lose the vacuum within a few seconds to a few minutes even with the best bags.

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My theory is that without oxygen, the bacteria that break down the mushrooms could not do so, thus they would keep, but I would appreciate the advice of anyone who has tried this, or heard of it being tried.





If only it were this simple.

I preserve my mushrooms by setting them in front of a fan for about two days. This removes the bulk of the moisture. Next, they go into a completely airtight container with a desiccant (DampRid) for about two weeks. By this time, they literally snap like a cracker when you bend them. Next, I stick them in a real vacuum packing bag and seal them with a vacuum machine, then they go into the freezer. Even after two years of storage this way, they're as potent as the day they were harvested.

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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: Diploid]
    #1898556 - 09/09/03 04:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, thanks for the feedback, please excuse my ignorance on this subject :grin: I guess I'm fighting a losing battle. If I have anymore brainwaves, I know who to call :evil: 


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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: OJK]
    #1898567 - 09/09/03 04:43 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Next, I stick them in a real vacuum packing bag and seal them with a vacuum machine




Could this method be used to preserve fresh mushrooms for longer than normal (perhaps two or three weeks?)


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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: OJK]
    #1898656 - 09/09/03 05:10 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Odiumjunkie said:
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Next, I stick them in a real vacuum packing bag and seal them with a vacuum machine




Could this method be used to preserve fresh mushrooms for longer than normal (perhaps two or three weeks?)




if there are recipes for mushrooms in hot soup and boiling them for consumption then i wonder if you can cook them and then seal the stew in a vacuumed bag like those frozen dinners?
i saw a new gadget on homeshopping that does this.
then this raises a coupla questions i've been wondering about:if heat kills the goodstuff in shrooms(fresh to be dried) will they be less potent if cooked?
once my foaf had shroom soup,boiled then simmered for 10 min then drunk it with chocolate powder and i hear he tripped of his scone!
would they have been more potent if eaten raw?


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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: ]
    #1898687 - 09/09/03 05:21 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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then this raises a coupla questions i've been wondering about:if heat kills the goodstuff in shrooms(fresh to be dried) will they be less potent if cooked?




Yes , heat destroys the pyscoactive compounds, and the "cooking" of shrooms will render them... well, pyscodormant, if you'll allow me the word.

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once my foaf had shroom soup,boiled then simmered for 10 min then drunk it with chocolate powder and i hear he tripped of his scone!




I cannot explain this.

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would they have been more potent if eaten raw?




Yes.


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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: OJK]
    #1898701 - 09/09/03 05:25 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

looks like my foaf will have to chew and swallow while blocking his nose next time :wink:


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Re: Vacume sealed [Re: ]
    #1898718 - 09/09/03 05:29 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Lol... damn right, they taste nasty , I've always mistrusted those who say they like the taste...


BTW, try ground up dry with a glass of orange juice. Even with fresh, it helps with the taste.


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