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Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings?
    #18984552 - 10/16/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have an irreplaceable recording cover of the song Hurt similar to Johnny Cash's cover, which i recorded under specially altered circumstances. Ive tried to get my vocals the same as I did previously to no avail.

Ive decided to try and make best of the recording I have. The quality is actually not that bad with some minimal background noise.

What needs fixed is: most of the background noise, some pops on my mic (more prevalent to the H's more than the P's), and a few chord falters due to my altered circumstances. I realize at least one the chord falters is unable to be fixed because of it being with the vocals.

If anyone is bored, or is up for the challenge.. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks! :peace:

I recorded with Fruity Loops.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18987061 - 10/16/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No one is interested?

I saw someone doing the same thing with homework and people were bored enough to do that, lol. :sonofawebitch:


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18987225 - 10/16/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if you are trying to get someone to cleanup a stereo mix it will never work out properly. The best you can do is run it through a parametric eq and hopefully minimize the frequencies of the pops or noise. There is about a .000001% chance you will be happy with the result.

as for fixing missed chords, good luck with that.

At least homework is do able.

(this is coming from an ex sound engineer)


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #18987284 - 10/16/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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parametric eq




Like what?

If i can run it through a simple equalizer that fixes both the peaks and troughs then ill be good.

The delay on chords I can do myself, I already fixed a couple, but forgot to save. All I do is cut out some of the break in between chords, because its just air.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18987374 - 10/16/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll see what I can do. check your pm


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18987451 - 10/16/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There are VSTs and programs that have noise cancellation functions - but depending on the band of frequencies - it could be both imperfect and heavily damage your audio quality. Same with EQing out the noise - though a well placed notch or two could greatly diminish it if it is fairly narrow band with only a bit of loss in quality - however since most hiss and such lies in the 1-3k range... a range that's very important to the coherence and clarity of the music, its not very desirable to have to cut heavily from this band.

It sounds like everything's recorded to one mic? A lot of the changes you described, with the guitar resequencing and what not seem like they'd be very difficult unless the guitar was multi-tracked separately. Unless it is the guitar only playing in the parts you need edited and there is the same sequence played likewise perfectly elsewhere in the recording.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: twighead]
    #18987519 - 10/16/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i could try. one thing you can do is try and isolate the pops with a gate or something, then use the fl noise profile and then take that section and try and noise it and see how that works.

chord falters can be autotuned but i don't got the patience for that stuff because i don't know chords or whatever.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: twighead]
    #18987557 - 10/16/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There are VSTs and programs that have noise cancellation functions - but depending on the band of frequencies - it could be both imperfect and heavily damage your audio quality. Same with EQing out the noise - though a well placed notch or two could greatly diminish it if it is fairly narrow band with only a bit of loss in quality - however since most hiss and such lies in the 1-3k range... a range that's very important to the coherence and clarity of the music, its not very desirable to have to cut heavily from this band.

It sounds like everything's recorded to one mic? A lot of the changes you described, with the guitar resequencing and what not seem like they'd be very difficult unless the guitar was multi-tracked separately. Unless it is the guitar only playing in the parts you need edited and there is the same sequence played likewise perfectly elsewhere in the recording.




Ive messed with the noise a little, and it did help.. but I didnt know how to fix the pops.

And regarding the guitar chords, they are repeated throughout the track. The problem is more that when i was playing at that time, I kept forgetting the chords. So its more of a break of silence... and then the chord. I was barely conscious, im actually not that bad, lol.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18987574 - 10/16/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thats easily fixed. 

you recorded everything on one track i'm assuming?


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18987595 - 10/16/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i could try. one thing you can do is try and isolate the pops with a gate or something, then use the fl noise profile and then take that section and try and noise it and see how that works.

chord falters can be autotuned but i don't got the patience for that stuff because i don't know chords or whatever.




The chords aren't wrong, theres just a break in between some of the chords. Well actually there is like one wrong chord, but thats insignificant to me.

If you wanna try I can send it as a Wav, Mp3, OGG, or MIDI.. or if you have FL Studio i can just send you the project if thats easier. (It will be bigger though)

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thats easily fixed. 

you recorded everything on one track i'm assuming?




Yes, I recorded them together.. as singing and playing together feels more lively. Its still in good quality though.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18987703 - 10/16/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

btw you can't send audio as midi


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #18987763 - 10/16/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you want to clear up your sound you must do 2 things (for basic cleaning):

1. Turn your master gain down. Use your limiter to turn volume real low.

2. Now you must decide how to organize your sounds.

*lows and mid sounds(kick, drum, bass), go to your equalizer, turn up your lows and cut off at mids-high

*for high sounds(snare, high hat, synth), go to equalizer and cut off everything up to the mids, and turn up the highs.
Finally, play with individual limiters of sounds to get the right consistency of sound dynamics.

I do this to get clear sounding separation of sounds. The bass sounds crisp and SEXY. The highs complement the bass without distorting its clarity.




For here, you can turn up master volume, but beware...turn it up too high and it sounds distorted.


Producing music, whether electronic or on guitar recordings, is a lot of fun...especially if you learned everything yourself. I would like to take classes to learn about techniques, but YouTube suffices for now :smile:

:thumbup: keep at it OP. The more you try, the better you get.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18987767 - 10/16/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you want to clear up your sound you must do 2 things (for basic cleaning):

1. Turn your master gain down. Use your limiter to turn volume real low.

2. Now you must decide how to organize your sounds.

*lows and mid sounds(kick, drum, bass), go to your equalizer, turn up your lows and cut off at mids-high

*for high sounds(snare, high hat, synth), go to equalizer and cut off everything up to the mids, and turn up the highs.
Finally, play with individual limiters of sounds to get the right consistency of sound dynamics.

I do this to get clear sounding separation of sounds. The bass sounds crisp and SEXY. The highs complement the bass without distorting its clarity.




For here, you can turn up master volume, but beware...turn it up too high and it sounds distorted.


Producing music, whether electronic or on guitar recordings, is a lot of fun...especially if you learned everything yourself. I would like to take classes to learn about techniques, but YouTube suffices for now :smile:

:thumbup: keep at it OP. The more you try, the better you get.




wat? i am unfamiliar with that equalizer technique. link me to an example.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18987829 - 10/16/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here you go. Very nice tutorial on clearing sound(fl studio). The concept of it is key though, not the software.



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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18987856 - 10/16/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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btw you can't send audio as midi




I understand that now... I was only looking at all of the exporting choices and forgot midi had nothing to do with my recording.

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If you want to clear up your sound you must do 2 things (for basic cleaning):

1. Turn your master gain down. Use your limiter to turn volume real low.

2. Now you must decide how to organize your sounds.

*lows and mid sounds(kick, drum, bass), go to your equalizer, turn up your lows and cut off at mids-high

*for high sounds(snare, high hat, synth), go to equalizer and cut off everything up to the mids, and turn up the highs.
Finally, play with individual limiters of sounds to get the right consistency of sound dynamics.

I do this to get clear sounding separation of sounds. The bass sounds crisp and SEXY. The highs complement the bass without distorting its clarity.




For here, you can turn up master volume, but beware...turn it up too high and it sounds distorted.


Producing music, whether electronic or on guitar recordings, is a lot of fun...especially if you learned everything yourself. I would like to take classes to learn about techniques, but YouTube suffices for now :smile:

:thumbup: keep at it OP. The more you try, the better you get.




And this may be hard with my recording... but sounds very useful for all of my instrumentals with some wicked bumping beats. :thumbup:


I was thinking about starting a thread where we could all share our different beats and listen to them. But I haven't thought about how to make it playable from the actual thread.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18987978 - 10/16/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

might want to try audacity for the background noise removal and maybe some of the pops



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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: LSDreams]
    #18988036 - 10/16/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i didn't get a chance to listen to that guy's songs on my monitors, but "soundgoodizer" is a pretty bad sign.  The way he has the high's boosted, it makes more sense to just up the gain and cut more.  I dunno i think what you wrote was a pretty oversimplification.

there have been alot of "share ur tune" threads, we all use soundcloud, which embeds right into the shroomery nicely.

this is what i've been working on:


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18988222 - 10/16/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i didn't get a chance to listen to that guy's songs on my monitors, but "soundgoodizer" is a pretty bad sign.  The way he has the high's boosted, it makes more sense to just up the gain and cut more.  I dunno i think what you wrote was a pretty oversimplification.

there have been alot of "share ur tune" threads, we all use soundcloud, which embeds right into the shroomery nicely.

this is what i've been working on:
[flash=480,81]http://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=
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Thats awesome man! my stuff isn't anywhere near as complex as that.

I just try to make beats that I will eventually write lyrics for. Maybe i will start a beat thread using soundcloud... thanks for the idea!


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18988605 - 10/16/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you want to clear up your sound you must do 2 things (for basic cleaning):

1. Turn your master gain down. Use your limiter to turn volume real low.

2. Now you must decide how to organize your sounds.

*lows and mid sounds(kick, drum, bass), go to your equalizer, turn up your lows and cut off at mids-high

*for high sounds(snare, high hat, synth), go to equalizer and cut off everything up to the mids, and turn up the highs.
Finally, play with individual limiters of sounds to get the right consistency of sound dynamics.

I do this to get clear sounding separation of sounds. The bass sounds crisp and SEXY. The highs complement the bass without distorting its clarity.




For here, you can turn up master volume, but beware...turn it up too high and it sounds distorted.


Producing music, whether electronic or on guitar recordings, is a lot of fun...especially if you learned everything yourself. I would like to take classes to learn about techniques, but YouTube suffices for now :smile:

:thumbup: keep at it OP. The more you try, the better you get.




If you don't remove the noise before adding the limiter it will become much higher in the mix. If you're adding limiters to every instrument that will severely limit dynamics, a lower ratio compressor usually sounds more natural ime.

If you remove the highs of the bass it will have no individual definition, if you remove the mids of the snare it will have no body.


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good with Cleaning Up Recordings? [Re: twighead]
    #18988814 - 10/16/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

my advice wasn't exact. I like to play around with the shape a bit till it sounds right :shrug:

I variate with around that area though...for drum n bass fruity loops, it sounds really good. And it's fun, after you preset the sounds, of course.

Btw, I define clarity in music as clear separation of instruments. I give each track/recording a unique EQ relative to what range of sound I want.

For guitar recordings I like making the upside down bell shaped curve with med/high lows and turn up the highs a little.

I have no evidence to support my methods. I've just been playing around with the eq for years :lol: I had no idea how it worked until I played around with it. Quite enlightening


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