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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: modern.shaman]
    #18992663 - 10/17/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the advice guys. I got some ortho seasonal spray and tomorrow I will go to lowes and do some poison shopping. Im tired of this shit. If its not one thing its another.  And so on and so forth. I think it might also be the plastic pots retaining so much water. These ants seem to like worm soil. I'll buy some ant killer granules or some sevin dust.  We'll see and I'll update tomorrow.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #18993469 - 10/17/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

hopefully linking this is not against rules.  if it is i apologize and edit it if need be.  i saw it and remembered this thread and figured i needed to share.

http://lophophora.blogspot.com/2013/08/peyote-plants-maimed-by-birds.html


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #18999118 - 10/19/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I hope you get it all sorted Ferrel.
I to thing it looks like it at least was started by birds.

Here is one of mine that I have know idea what did this and it definitely wasn't birds as it is in my green house. The only thing I can think of is mice. :shrug:



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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: GoOnThen]
    #18999143 - 10/19/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like caterpillar damage.

I put out terro bait traps for ants. Put out the whole package of 6 in various places. They seem to be liking the poison sap. I will go to work and when I get get next days off I will buy morw bait traps.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #18999230 - 10/19/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

1-2 hours of soaking in water the pots, wouldn't kill those damn ants?
I am afraid i will have very soon problem with ants, they are every where around the pots..


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: gopener]
    #18999253 - 10/19/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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1-2 hours of soaking in water the pots, wouldn't kill those damn ants?
I am afraid i will have very soon problem with ants, they are every where around the pots..



I think they would just come back. I seen it with all my potted plants and cacti.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #18999311 - 10/19/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They will not give up the nest so easily i guess..:tongue2:


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: gopener]
    #19004395 - 10/20/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have seen bird maimed peyote from that guy grow peyote in denmark and keep blog.. Almost identical injuries to your photos.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: GoOnThen]
    #19004399 - 10/20/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I hope you get it all sorted Ferrel.
I to thing it looks like it at least was started by birds.

Here is one of mine that I have know idea what did this and it definitely wasn't birds as it is in my green house. The only thing I can think of is mice. :shrug:



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Probably snails?

I have seen snail damage at summer on cucumber plant leafs, never on cactus but seems it can be... If that is from mice, would there be more rough area around these holes?

These seems so smooth damage that I doubt mice.. Snails can do that possible? ..I am not sure but guessing..


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #19004715 - 10/20/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes its birds. I have found bird poop in several pots. They ate a mammilaria luethyi I had waiting to root. Those bastards. :shakefist:


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19063442 - 10/31/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:zomgwtf:  :zomgwtf: I caught these little bastards in the act today. They were all gathered around when I went to the back door. What good it is to have a cat if he doesnt do his job.
Poor my peyoots. Now what.?


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: LSoares]
    #19063464 - 10/31/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You have a cumulative problem, Ferrel. Birds on one hand, then the ants and the larvae (worms won't munch on your cacti, those are caterpillars)... I think it's time to level the field: bring on the poisons and think of something to scare the birds away. Metallic strips or Cd's hanging tend to scare birds away over here, but I don't know which species is to blame on your case.



I wonder how good cds work. Maybe I can get a fake owl from mother in law. She had a pigeon problem.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19063519 - 10/31/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Make a box out of quarter inch wire mesh and put your plants inside?


Edited by Desert Delerium (10/31/13 04:20 PM)


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #19063594 - 10/31/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Damn thats brutal. I dont want to do it. I want my cat to kil them or just scare them away.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #19063742 - 10/31/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Fill a bird feeder with bird feed... Lace it with arsenic? Bird bath with antifreeze? Make perches for the birds and electrify them?
Pellet gun?




That's ridiculously cruel and unnecessary.  Some random birds who have no intention on messing up his cacti will inevitably be killed.  It isn't my cacti on the line here but I'd never consider something like that.  Focus on the problem area rather than setting out a bird feeder where any bird could get harmed.

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Make a box out of quarter inch wire mesh and put your plants inside?




That's more like it. :thumbup:


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: SuperD]
    #19064202 - 10/31/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Im gonna get a big fake owl.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19064326 - 10/31/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

True. Perhaps that is a bit harsh. I've never been fond of birds. Ignore the bullshit I posted.

I've heard that after awhile the birds see that because the owl doesn't take off and attack them, they realize its fake. So it might be a temporary cure, but long term you will have to figure something else out.

Best of luck.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19064415 - 10/31/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd create a frame and staple either plastic or metal mesh over it.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #19064488 - 10/31/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yiu just gotta keep moving it. So I will move it severeal places.


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Re: DAMMIT!!!!! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19065637 - 10/31/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

A plastic owl will not do the job. I've seen pigeons nesting right behind one of those. The foil streamers they put up in vineyards might work. They're constantly moving in the wind, so they startle the birds.


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