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Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns.
    #18986697 - 10/16/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys so i've been with this girl H for a little over a year now. We love each other and were discussing tripping together. I have some concerns though...

You see I tripped with another girl I dated. P. P's first trip with me and only was her first trip ever. She took a tab of lsd, i took 2. Planned on a day trip. Around the peak she had all her clothes off rolling in the neighbors grass... All of her "issues" such as depression, bi-polar all increased ten fold. Was not aware of the issues at that time.

So my worries are as follows.

H has adhd. Shes on 40 mg of vyvance a day. Do you guys see any complications?

Second what should her first psych be? She tried shrooms but didn't trip.
I told her acid because for me I can handle myself on 12 hits easy.

Ive had an 8th of shrooms rape me emotionally before.

I told her, lsd you can control, shrooms can control you.

Any input to help her first psychedelic experience be a beautiful one? I want to share that beauty with her so bad


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean] * 2
    #18986720 - 10/16/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #18986740 - 10/16/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

shrooms may be harsher, but acid (at least with me) can fuck you up if your prone to paranoia, shrooms are pretty much the only psychedelic id be willing to take  (weed messes me up too)


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #18986745 - 10/16/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Been on my fair share of journeys man i hear yah. Hes scared but like before a roller coaster scared.

I've been scared on lsd. Got myself out. Mushrooms. Ugh. I love them but my god. Hell isn't a single place everyone has their own and I experienced it with shrooms


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #18986747 - 10/16/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you make up the set of your trip, as you go along. just keep active, do no sitting around, unless it's immediately comforting, otherwise, just keep going. can't let bad feelings get ahold of you, if you're on the move. hell, you don't even have to move to "move"...

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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18986751 - 10/16/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm 90% sure I have adhd, my doc told me

but I never got pills for it

very hyperactive, always have to do 10 things at once, bad focus etc. (trouble reading for more than 2mins)

but LSD is the best drug I've used, taken it 200 times or so, high doses mostly
died on it a handful of times too

don't give psychedelics to people with -severe- mental disorders like schizo/bipolar etc.
I once sat a friend who has schizophrenia who had bought some shrooms
he had a good first trip... but he had 10000 thoughts a minute... and he normally has many thoughts

not normal of 2g shrooms... only happens on 5g+ for me

adhd is not exactly a severe mental illness though.... people are fairly normal with that
no thought problems usually, except bad concentration...

when I take LSD I just want to explore the world and go everywhere all the time :wink: , out in nature , out dancing etc..
something has to happen all the time

wouldn't take LSD+adhd medication at the same time... would definitely go off the adderall for a few days before... takes a few days to wear off
and depression might be an issue if stopping the adhd meds.... severe depression maybe

have never tried the meds so dunno... but many pharma pills give severe depression when stopping them
and mixing pills+psychedelics is a bad idea.... take no other drugs with psychs for the best trip/purest trip

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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: lessismore]
    #18986768 - 10/16/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and it's true in my experience too

lsd is easy to control 99% of the time
shrooms control you easily when things go wrong randomly

with lsd, things don't go wrong randomly, it's rare
unless you are new to lsd of course

the only fear with lsd is the fear of dying... just tell your GF that is a normal fear in the trip, before the trip
happens in most LSD trips...

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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: lessismore]
    #18986776 - 10/16/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

See i wanted to get some tabs some bud and go up to flagstaff (im in phx) and rent a cabin and trip for a whole day then just unwind another and smoke. But she hates nature ):


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18986795 - 10/16/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I tried weed+LSD in nature too a few times

but I must admit, weed never made my trips any better

I prefer weed by itself and psychs by themselves

feels like weed takes away from the trip somehow

makes it too intense, feels different, changes thoughts etc

I like the magic nature feeling of psychedelics, the oneness

ANYONE likes nature on psychedelics :-) , if you have nature nearby im sure you could convince her when she is on lsd ;-)

seriously, I'm a cubicle officespace worker, I love nature now :wink:


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: lessismore]
    #18986807 - 10/16/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

See thats the kind of natural beauty i want to show her. The magical woodlands kinda shit. Idk why that magic feel of rpgs like oblivion always reminded me of psychs in the woods.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: lessismore]
    #18986818 - 10/16/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

only see beauty :-)

beauty in everything :-)

and it lasts after your first psychedelic in nature experience, can last permanently if you get reconnected with nature

sit in nature, let all thoughts go, walk in nature in every trip


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18986827 - 10/16/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe it will make her appreciate nature more . . .


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: lessismore]
    #18986839 - 10/16/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I always feel like you need to be careful when you're tripping with a girl. 9/10 out of ten it'll end weirdly. that 1/10 time will be fucking amazing though. So some might say the odds are worth it. Sometimes I would be that person. But not at this moment.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: theonlysun81] * 1
    #18986857 - 10/16/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I always feel like you need to be careful when you're tripping with a girl. 9/10 out of ten it'll end weirdly. that 1/10 time will be fucking amazing though. So some might say the odds are worth it. Sometimes I would be that person. But not at this moment.




I totally do not agree whatsoever. I have tripped with lots of girls and had some amazing times pretty much every time. That being said I dont go tripping with any old random braod that wants to. You have to be selective who you trip with

But trips with gf's are awesome IMO


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18986921 - 10/16/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

theonlysun81 said:
I always feel like you need to be careful when you're tripping with a girl. 9/10 out of ten it'll end weirdly. that 1/10 time will be fucking amazing though. So some might say the odds are worth it. Sometimes I would be that person. But not at this moment.




I totally do not agree whatsoever. I have tripped with lots of girls and had some amazing times pretty much every time. That being said I dont go tripping with any old random braod that wants to. You have to be selective who you trip with

But trips with gf's are awesome IMO



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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: theonlysun81]
    #18986939 - 10/16/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

theonlysun81 said:
I always feel like you need to be careful when you're tripping with a girl. 9/10 out of ten it'll end weirdly. that 1/10 time will be fucking amazing though. So some might say the odds are worth it. Sometimes I would be that person. But not at this moment.




This is so true it aint even funny if its with your GF (who cares if its a friend girl). Tripping with your significant other can get weird and stay weird for a while after. Just use caution, I would dose low and make sure the setting is perfect.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Pureless]
    #18986969 - 10/16/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

LSD is easy to control in a very familiar space and settings.
Changing where you are and who you with can make the trip skydive into paranoia and eventually horror, especially if your not very familiar with it. No offense OP 12 hits of some good wow for example would totally blow your world and you would defiantly not being wanting to socialize or do anything at all.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: theonlysun81]
    #18986972 - 10/16/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We've been dating for a while now and I've had my tongue in her ass. Not many boundaries so doubt it'll be weird.

And maybe she would appreciate nature more. I plan on going up to yuma to the peyote way church soon. Tripping mesc in the middle of the desert... DOWN


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18986982 - 10/16/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The 12 hits were the best source I've ever had. Nothing looked the same that night. People didnt even look like people. Im just good at keeping my cool on drugs.

My gf saw me when I was tripping on shrooms and couldnt even tell she thought i was just high


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18986988 - 10/16/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My friend took acid multiple times on adderall and in his experience he had great trips no problems. I personally cant imagine the thought of how strung out that combo would make me feel.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #18987005 - 10/16/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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My friend took acid multiple times on adderall and in his experience he had great trips no problems. I personally cant imagine the thought of how strung out that combo would make me feel.




People candy flip all the time (mdma+LSD) Kind of similar if you ask me.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Pureless]
    #18987028 - 10/16/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

12 hits in public my ass unless you had a tolerance.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Psychman1]
    #18987059 - 10/16/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol did i say in public? No. Kick back 15 people tops. Knew them all. Saw my friends father on his deathbed that night. Kidneys and liver were failing and the lsd made his skin bubbly with a green hue to it.

Im known among my group for being the guy who can hold his shit.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18987081 - 10/16/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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12 hits in public my ass unless you had a tolerance.




Not trying to troll or flame, but I have to agree. I've had 900 mcg's of LSD (6 hits at 150 mcg each) and I was beginning to lose my grip on reality.

Now I hear of people in my area taking 10+ hits, but it's usually a RC, not genuine LSD. With some good LSD, at 1000 mcg's the tracers and geometric patterns begin to consume your field of vision. I don't know a single person who would be comfortable in a public space with that much going on in your head.

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Im known among my group for being the guy who can hold his shit.





Now I will give you the benefit of the doubt that this is true, for I am the same way. My friends can eat an 1/8 of shrooms while I'll eat a 1/4, and they will trip harder than me. But I still find 12 hits to be a bit much for a social setting.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: HeyImShroomy]
    #18987202 - 10/16/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im comfortable with psychs. Done my fair share of dmt and the like. My next big trip I want to try 15 hits and just close myself in my room


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: HeyImShroomy]
    #18987222 - 10/16/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I took 16 hits in public(outside) with some tolerance

probably equated to about 8-10 hits due to tolerance

ganesha lsd hits, not sure dosage... 80-120ug each maybe

everything was infinity, but I could walk around fine
as long as I kept changing my focus

if I focused on the road too long I would be at home instead of thinking I'm walking

inner journeys all the time, and outer too
infinity in everything

it's possible to walk around on any dose of LSD I believe, that's my experience, but usually only done it on 3-600ug since, can always walk around
but the paranoia on 300ug+ is usually so intense it is dangerous to walk outside, a very bad idea

you could get yourself killed easily on 200ug+ if you walk outside too far from home
200ug can be very intense, even 100ug can be in the wrong setting

don't underestimate the LSD... 100ug can be a very intense dose sometimes depending on setting

300ug is too intense for most people, you will likely not be in your body much of the time
near death exps are common on that dose, and that isn't really what people want their first time

A good first time dose I can recommend is 1½ avg good hit(hofmanns i.e.), no more than that IMO
and you can always start with 1 hit, then redose ½ after 1½hour or so if it isn't enough

get some psytrance if you want to heal your soul in the trip... youtube
trance/psytrance is the best music for tripping IMO


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18987249 - 10/16/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Im comfortable with psychs. Done my fair share of dmt and the like. My next big trip I want to try 15 hits and just close myself in my room





Now that will be an experience. I remember the first time I decided to smoke DMT with no lights on or any music/noise, just complete sensory deprivation. That completely blew my reality apart. By far the scariest/most enlightening trip of my life.

Now I'm trying to work my way into 10 grams of Penis Envys in a dark room. Should be similar to what you are trying to experience.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: HeyImShroomy]
    #18987268 - 10/16/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ive had shrooms trips where im completely functional on a quad.

Then I've had them where i kicked my friends gf's pomeranian, pissed all over the bathroom and scared shitless by a poster of brett favre.

Drove home that night, forgot who I was where I lived so parked in an apartment complex and passed out on the comedown. Woke up to the car battery dead due to forgetting to kill the lights.

Fucking shrooms man... You never know with them.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18987300 - 10/16/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Fucking shrooms man... You never know with them.




That's half of the fun!
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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: HeyImShroomy]
    #18987329 - 10/16/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That is true. My favorite is mescaline by far though. The length, the calm, the pinkish purple geometric patterns. Seeing the air


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18987336 - 10/16/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:sad: that really makes me wanna get some Mescal.


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18987362 - 10/16/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That really makes me want to TRY some mescaline. I've got a cacti growing at home, but it will be a few years before I can make a brew out of it. My dad tells me it's by far his favorite psych. Hopefully I will get to find out while I still enjoy trippin' (which if I'm anything like my father, I always will!)


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18987365 - 10/16/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I read a tek on here to get mes citrate from cacti. Personally I cant stomach tea. So powder seems bueno


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: Mescalean]
    #18987646 - 10/16/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

^ hmmm :strokebeard:


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Re: Girlfriends first trip, questions and concerns. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18987681 - 10/16/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah not everything is the same, some people can handle 12 hits, some cant. I could still handle myself but genrally do not like to get that high at a show or anything. The last show I went to me and my freind each took 5 of some good wow. He could barely see, and I could have eaten another 5 no problem, plus he had more of a tolerance than me because he had been tripping more lately. It had been a couple months for me


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