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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Envix] 1
#18986392 - 10/16/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, miltzy is soooo Newtonian.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Envix]
#18986428 - 10/16/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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everything is real, you just have to believe in it.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: zZZz]
#18986448 - 10/16/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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zZZz said: everything is real, you just have to believe in it.
Oh come on, deepak.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#18986470 - 10/16/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: I don't know how much more simple I can make it than this:
the universe exists, because the potential for the universe to exist is inherent to reality--in an infinite existence all potential is eventually realized--a spontaneous release of energy before returning again to the state of potential
as my understanding of it goes, remove the sanskrit terminology, and you get a fair analogy for the big bang theory--of a universe spontaneously arising out of an undifferentiated infinite, persisting for a period of time, and then eventually returning back to a state of undifferentiation
does it make sense to blame the universe for the existence of what we perceive as good and evil?
Right so what you're saying then is the universe is not responsible for any action then and everything is inexplicable and nothing makes sense and the world is chaos because there is no order of the universe by god there is only potential for creation.
What you're saying is morality is only explainable by human beings then.
That is what I said already. Correct me if I'm somehow wrong.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Uzziel]
#18986804 - 10/16/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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we're all functioning based on a set foundation of certain rules that we created in order to achieve a state of oneness.
of these rules is fundamentally damaging bonds to the human psyche; hence, we're ultimately bound to destruction, like the rest of the planet. we'd like to think that all this means something, but it doesn't, and it is bound to your individual interpretation.
hence, this engorged thread of pomposity.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Envix]
#18986809 - 10/16/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Envix said: since when is anything "real" and "concrete" to begin with? are you still living in newtonian land where the world is made up of little tiny balls that obey the same laws of physics throughout the entire cosmos?
orthodox christianity served its purpose, oh wait NO IT HASNT. all it did was cause war and chaos based on a bunch of people who thought that they had the "correct interpretation"
hey guess what, everyone lives in an entirely different reality! therefore anything "real" is nothing more the fiction. a passing moment which quickly becomes a memory, and over-time a story. and eventually memories and dreams will become one in the same, as you try desperately to relive the dream of a memory long since passed.
this is your life you're living, and everything in it tries to direct you away from the realization that the only truth is silence
i don't think you could miss my point any more than you already have. i really don't care what you believe and i'm not passing judgement on it as a christian but rather pointing out that it is unorthodox in the grander scheme of christianity as it were. if you read any of my previous replies you would notice that the only position i'm defending is that religion be represented fairly in conversations like these. you made a claim that christ did not die for our sins and that sin does not exist. the tenets of orthodox christianity (as well as most forms of christianity) contradict your claim. your disagreement is irrelevant because that is the fact of the matter.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy]
#18986830 - 10/16/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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who cares who is right? there is no proof of anything verifiable, when you get down to the questions of "metaphysics" and "supernatural" and "God" so what's the fucking point. can't you people actually "AGREE" on anything? or is disapproval the only thing that jives around here?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18986877 - 10/16/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The idea of right vs wrong is just an illusion created to keep people in conflict. Morality is relative to time, place, and one's own interpretation of events. What another person thinks is really of no consequence. What you think is what matters. But in this, common ground still exists when what one person thinks and what another person thinks coincide with one another. That's how real human bonds are formed. But for all intents and purposes, right and wrong are only two sides of the tetrahedron.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18986886 - 10/16/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh you guys. lol
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18986894 - 10/16/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: who cares who is right? there is no proof of anything verifiable, when you get down to the questions of "metaphysics" and "supernatural" and "God" so what's the fucking point. can't you people actually "AGREE" on anything? or is disapproval the only thing that jives around here?
I'm digging the meta-disapproval, Akira.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: koods]
#18986895 - 10/16/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOLOLOLOL
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millzy said: oh you guys. lol 
why can't the market forces of this forum just GET... ALONG...
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy]
#18986898 - 10/16/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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let's try this as a thought experiment: can we all agree that football is a game with very clear rules and goals?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy]
#18986904 - 10/16/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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no, because then there is Street Football. damn. i did it again.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18986913 - 10/16/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no, because then there is Street Football. damn. i did it again.
right. there's also tag and flag football. but you would also agree that there is a sport called football that is governed by an organization called the nfl, correct?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy]
#18986919 - 10/16/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, but what about the CFL, bro!?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18986932 - 10/16/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, but what about the CFL, bro!? 
what about it?
at any rate, what would you say the primary end of football is? in other words, what is each team trying to do when they take the field against each other?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy]
#18986937 - 10/16/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fulfill contractual obligations, so that they get payed?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#18986938 - 10/16/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Camwritesgonzo said: The idea of right vs wrong is just an illusion created to keep people in conflict. Morality is relative to time, place, and one's own interpretation of events.
Right... its just an "illusion".... lol.....
I guess you shouldn't get mad at someone for killing your family, robbing you and raping you. Its not the wrong thing to do, after all....just relative.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18986947 - 10/16/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: fulfill contractual obligations, so that they get payed?
i guess that's part of it. but i would say that the primary end of football is to score touchdowns. would you agree to that statement?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy]
#18986951 - 10/16/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'd say the primary end of football is to get payed... fail that, to get a scholarship to play for big money so that you get payed.
no one "truly succeeds" until they get payed. right? it's not like scoring that touchdown is gonna make you feel better about your life, or answer any of one's "life affirming" questions.
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