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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch]
    #18986139 - 10/16/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It hasn't always been this way. There used to be ideals in government about benefiting the whole country, working towards the greater good; not just trying to beat your opponents and get reelected.




When was this? The first 2 days of the French Revolution?


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #18986140 - 10/16/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What was the logic (if any) behind this shutdown thing anyway?





The tea-party idiots strapped a bomb to their chest and said "We'll blow up the country if we don't get our way" Thankfully the GOP leadership is stupid enough to follow them, but not so insane that they went through with it.
Basically they threw a temper tantrum/ bluff, and all we got out of it was a dip in the stock market, a bunch of lost revenue in tourist towns near federal parks, and federal employees out of work. The GOP now has single digit poll ratings. All they're doing is fucking us, and themselves.




I know enough about American politics to know that splitting blame is pointless. Both parties are owned by the same people.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #18986157 - 10/16/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
It hasn't always been this way. There used to be ideals in government about benefiting the whole country, working towards the greater good; not just trying to beat your opponents and get reelected.
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qman said:
It's theater, are you this gullible?



No, it is not. I have friends out of work because of the shutdown. This is real stuff that affects everyone, the world even.
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mpd said:
...A betting man would take me up on this.



I don't fault you for believing what you believe, but I personally doubt the GOP is going to last long.




"I have friends out of work because of the shutdown."

So what?  It was a temporary situation from the very beginning.

Do you even understand the stupidity of thinking that a default was ever going to happen?


Edited by qman (10/16/13 01:25 PM)


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: B_BOY]
    #18986159 - 10/16/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Threatening to let the US default on it's loans and ruin the economy just to force some dumb policy they've failed to enact 46 times already is hardly what I'd call 'politics'. Most people where I'm from call it 'Insanity'.




obamacare is awesome!!!!!!!

http://www.caintv.com/bonnie-doon-ice-cream-factory





Just curious as to why they're closing due to health care costs . My employer just made us all sign a paper saying they don't offer health benefits .

Closing the doors seems a little drastic .


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: HeroMike]
    #18986166 - 10/16/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the company also said the Obama economy is pointless to try and stay in business under. And it sounds like your company is ready for you all to sign up for Obummercare


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: qman]
    #18986179 - 10/16/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you even understand the stupidity of thinking that a default was ever going to happen?



Yes, having a default happen would've been monumentally stupid. Do you then understand why the threat of one was so stupid? Ridiculous? Insane?


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch]
    #18986191 - 10/16/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

once again the US government takes in way more every month than what we owe. So now we just added a trillion dollars in debt. Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling when he was a senator.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: B_BOY]
    #18986192 - 10/16/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you need to check your math.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch]
    #18986198 - 10/16/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not at all, do some research for yourself, don't make a conservative prove you wrong. Like i said why did Obama vote AGAINST raising the debt ceiling in 06?


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch] * 2
    #18986201 - 10/16/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Except that we take in more than 10 times the amount of revenue each month as would be required to service our debt.  Not raising the debt ceiling is where we are headed.  You can't spend money you don't have forever and ever and call it the greater good of America or anything else.  We are robbing our grandchildren of their freedom so we can lavishly spend on these ridiculous entitlement programs today.  It is unsustainable and everyone knows it.

Only the Republicans are willing to face this fact.  The Democrats prefer to kick the can down the road.  Well, we are awfully close to that end of the road and it has to stop.

I hope there is enough support in the House to destroy this unamerican, anti-freedom bill.

Government can't spend money it doesn't have if it is shutdown and if the debt ceiling isn't raised, then deficit spending will cease.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch]
    #18986207 - 10/16/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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but I personally doubt the GOP is going to last long.




:laugh2:

People have been making the claim for decades that party X will be gone before you know it. Which party that is varies over the years.

America swings back and forth but always returns to the center.

The only people more foolish than those that  spout such nonsense are those that actually believe it.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: mpd]
    #18986215 - 10/16/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i want to hear from a liberal on why Obama voted no on the debt ceiling in 06? Why did harry reid bash republicans for trying to raise the debt ceiling? Until a Democrat can explain that one question i am done here :smile:


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #18986223 - 10/16/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
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qman said:
Do you even understand the stupidity of thinking that a default was ever going to happen?



Yes, having a default happen would've been monumentally stupid. Do you then understand why the threat of one was so stupid? Ridiculous? Insane?




A unrealistic threat makes it illegitimate, and therefore the only people that believed in this threat were very gullible.

Iran can threaten to nuke the US tommorrow, it doesn't make the threat legitimate, it makes it silly and unrealistic.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: B_BOY]
    #18986238 - 10/16/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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B_BOY said:
i want to hear from a liberal on why Obama voted no on the debt ceiling in 06? Why did harry reid bash republicans for trying to raise the debt ceiling? Until a Democrat can explain that one question i am done here :smile:




Don't hold your breath.

As you know:
If Bush did "A", it was bad.

If Obama does "A", it's good.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: qman]
    #18986244 - 10/16/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
therefore the only people that believed in this threat were very gullible.




:thumbup:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: mpd]
    #18986265 - 10/16/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Except that we take in more than 10 times the amount of revenue each month as would be required to service our debt.  Not raising the debt ceiling is where we are headed.  You can't spend money you don't have forever and ever and call it the greater good of America or anything else.  We are robbing our grandchildren of their freedom so we can lavishly spend on these ridiculous entitlement programs today.  It is unsustainable and everyone knows it.

Only the Republicans are willing to face this fact.  The Democrats prefer to kick the can down the road.  Well, we are awfully close to that end of the road and it has to stop.

I hope there is enough support in the House to destroy this unamerican, anti-freedom bill.

Government can't spend money it doesn't have if it is shutdown and if the debt ceiling isn't raised, then deficit spending will cease.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.




You do realize that the Republicans know that if the government doesn't run near trillion plus deficits on a yearly basis, the economy will enter a deeper deflationary recession/depression?

No politician can mention this economic reality, how can increasing more debt make economic sense?  It does in the short term, (3-4 years), but not in the long term (5-10 years), our political system is just trying to survive another year, nothing more.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: qman]
    #18986266 - 10/16/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i want to see the democrats and republicans in a boxing ring ppv 39.99. hell id probably even pay.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #18986277 - 10/16/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My parents own two small franchises in WA state. They can't hire any full time employees now because it doesn't make business sense to offer them insurance. Small businesses and low wage workers are taking a big hit


Edited by Magicman69 (10/16/13 01:49 PM)


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18986289 - 10/16/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Whoa whoa whoa, don't all try to insult my intelligence at once.

So, Quit trying to mislead people into thinking that not raising the debt was some responsible fiscal action. It was a silly threat and nothing more.
Either that, or an insane irresponsible threat.

There is a good chance Texas will turn blue in the next decade. Bye bye GOP.


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Re: The US government is back to work! [Re: Lynnch]
    #18986294 - 10/16/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You guys can't even agree on the reason your party is doing what it's doing.


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