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Exogenesis



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TentacleOfCreation said: I believe addiction is different for everyone... resolving issues in ones life which lead to addictive behavior and not the substance its self, and those psychological issues vary a lot from one person to the next, maybe its easier for one person to just stop then it is for someone else due to what caused their addiction in the first place.
No doubt mate. Don't think my rant was intended to be cunty towards you or your situation. I have just started dealing with things like this in a very black and white way, and it's the way I get a result.
I'm of military background though, so there is definitely some residual shit going on that comes through when I get ranty.
At the end of the day I just want to see you better. I'd be that coach in your ear saying exactly what I said in my previous posts. Wipe your tears, get on track and lets crack on and get it done. It IS possible, and you CAN do it mate. This isn't some Tony Robbins shit. These goals are very achievable, matter of fact once you get this shit sorted.. imagine what you can achieve by applying that same strength in other directions. Education. Family. Self-Improvement.
You're not born with the skill. You have to work on it.
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I'm glad you were able to quit so easily and just stop, its a very shitty thing to be stuck in and I my self have been trying hard to understand it and get it out of my life.
Thanks mate. It co-incided with some big changes in my life (self imposed) and I recommend that too. Instead of starting small, maybe cutting back or whatever.. just figure out what you need to change in your life.. even the big shit, and just do it all at once. Smoking tends to go straight into the background because you've got bigger fish to fry. Even positive change (a new relationship for example) - perfect opportunity. Your body is accepting change, and you just throw ciggies into the mix.
I 'loved' ciggies too. I really did.
But fuck that.
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Spacerific
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Re: Questions about Micro-dosing [Re: Exogenesis]
#19008644 - 10/21/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Exo mate, I think we still need to clear a few issues, in the interest of improved communication. Not only am I a non-smoker, I have actually taken flak and at least two bad ratings for bashing alcohol and tobacco. So I know it's bad, and if OP or anybody for that matter smokes, I wish them best of luck with quitting.
I don't have any smoker friends. Banged a few smoker chicks here and there, but that's about it. Things are more gray in the Netherlands, as over there people smoke joints and it's not quite the same thing. At least they have an extra excuse.
This bit about you "deciding to stop" is IMO a bit flimsy. When several distinct (probably unconscious) forces under your hood all aligned in the same coherent direction, stopping, then you consciously just got the end result of them, the urge to stop. To you it may look like wow, I just decided to stop and stopped smoking. I doubt it was actually quite like that, for the simple reason that humans don't work like that. It's not me saying that, it's plenty of experts and specialists saying it, after decades of study. And the evidence itself that people want to stop (consciously) but in practice the can't.
I know smoking is bad. I think most smokers made a very retarded move when starting. Having started, it takes several things (internal and external) to go right, not just deciding one day. Oh and there is such a thing as a nicotine addiction, and though second by second it is quite manageable, if you approach it by willpower alone, usually you will relapse, because there's a lot more craving than you have willpower. Talking of willpower here as the limited daily capacity to go against your habits and deeper inner drives. Things like keeping your hand submerged in frozen water, against your natural impulse to take it out. Plenty of studies on that, we know it's a limited resource, only so much per day. See new years' resolutions for more.
If you think otherwise, by all means start a thread detailing how you stopped smoking. I'll be glad to stop over and inquire about the other internal/external things that obviously supported you in quitting. The thread might in fact help others who are trying to quit or thinking about it. Advice like "just fucking stop" IMO doesn't. It's like telling people to just stop being depressed, or for that matter stop being fat.
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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tokerL
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Re: Questions about Micro-dosing [Re: Spacerific]
#19008692 - 10/21/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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allopathic treatment for something like that isnt the way, you just need to get over your anxiety
i know after lots of "k-holes" im no longer afraid which might be bad since ill be wandering around alone at 3am walking into alleys with groups of youths and have little to no Real fear
and apparently ketamines promotion for Synaptogenesis is how it cures depression
need some vitamins in your life, maybe supplementation is better
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mpd
Lammen Gorthaur



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Re: Questions about Micro-dosing [Re: tokerL]
#19008724 - 10/21/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been smoking cigarettes again lately with my trips and it got out of hand. I have two cigarettes left and when those are gone I will return to my cigarette fasting. NO TOBACCO!!! God the buzz though is out of this world. Nicotine is the best rush drug ever!
for me.
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Exogenesis


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Re: Questions about Micro-dosing [Re: mpd]
#19055540 - 10/30/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In my experience I'd have to say a largish dose (say, anything 2g's and over, with proper intent, set and setting) topped off with microdoses in the .1-.2 range as needed as the after glow starts to fade and the background noise (mindboy) begins to reappear.
For me, about 4-5 days I can feel the shift in mindset. That's not always an emergency that requires a microdose, but I definitely pay attention to it and if it feels right then I go for it.
I'd definitely prefer that than dosing every day in the 0.2 range. By weeks end things are just getting too trippy in general, even if you have kept it all below perceptable levels.. and especially if you're running it side by side with cannabis (which is often overlooked imho).
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Roflspammer
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Re: Questions about Micro-dosing [Re: Exogenesis]
#19062011 - 10/31/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Exogenesis said: By weeks end things are just getting too trippy in general, even if you have kept it all below perceptable levels.. and especially if you're running it side by side with cannabis (which is often overlooked imho).
yup. Cannabis was a mind fuck for me when I microdosed
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TentacleOfCreation
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Re: Questions about Micro-dosing [Re: Roflspammer]
#19067579 - 11/01/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Roflspammer said:
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Exogenesis said: By weeks end things are just getting too trippy in general, even if you have kept it all below perceptable levels.. and especially if you're running it side by side with cannabis (which is often overlooked imho).
yup. Cannabis was a mind fuck for me when I microdosed
I agree with this, weed and shroom together do not work for me at all, it makes my mind too cloudy. I only smoke a few hits at night right before bed, but I think I will have to just stop smoking for a bit to see how it goes. I haven't forgotten about this thread yet, I'm just waiting for the chance to have a supply of shrooms to attempt this little experiment, I promise to keep updated
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theRAPeutic
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I find weed to only enhance the energy feeling that you get flowing through your body on shrooms. The visuals and usual shroom mindfuck don't seem to intensify IME.. shrooms alone clouds my brain too much to tell a difference.
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