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GreySatyr
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: cez]
#18991699 - 10/17/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For me it's not psychedelics that needs to be pushed although I feel as if they should play some role in society (more than they already do) instead of being frowned upon. I sorta agree with you. A lot of posters just feel as if a revolution is just easier to attain drugs (that's another thing Leary promoted) we need focus on real issues. Get high and discuss politics like the Greeks did.
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everyman
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: cez]
#18991708 - 10/17/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cez said: You guys sound like a bunch of church goers trying to promote your religion. We dont need to push psychedelics down the public's throat.
I bet most of us don't even know why we take these drugs other to get high and briefly believe we have attained enlightenment.
Instead of trying to change the world through psychedelics, try changing yourself. You'll realize how hard it is to just do that.
In doing that though, I think you will change the world in the way you wish to do so in the op 
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18991733 - 10/17/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: For me it's not psychedelics that needs to be pushed although I feel as if they should play some role in society (more than they already do) instead of being frowned upon. I sorta agree with you. A lot of posters just feel as if a revolution is just easier to attain drugs (that's another thing Leary promoted) we need focus on real issues. Get high and discuss politics like the Greeks did.
The way of changing the way society looks at psyches is not by having a radical "revolution". Counter-cultures only distance themselves further from the dominant one and will face more opposition. It will take people who are famous, of high status, or have politcal power speaking intelligently and openly about psyches and their uses. That is the only road to acceptance. Otherwise you just get a group of people that appear like weird strange people that are and a burden of society going to festivals and taking lots of drugs. This will never be accepted and eventually will get stomped out. ie. The 60s and 70s
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GreySatyr
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: everyman]
#18991771 - 10/17/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what I'm getting at. The sixties however awesome and amazing really did more damage than good in the long run, unfortunately. Still wish I could have lived it.
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18992025 - 10/17/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: That's what I'm getting at. The sixties however awesome and amazing really did more damage than good in the long run, unfortunately. Still wish I could have lived it.
I agree, as much of a turbulent time as it was, I would love to be in that era.
I suppose that personally, I do not necessarily wish to push psychedelics onto other people or people who wouldn't want to try them. I think that the main issue I have is the connotation that they have in popular society, and how they are frowned upon as drugs just designed to "fuck you up". As much as I do enjoy the high from psychedelics (I'd be lying if I said I didn't, I'm sure many will agree), I use them to gain new perspectives. I do not claim to be enlightened, but I hope that someday the majority will see psychedelics as the potential miracles that they are.
The radical "revolution" probably never will happen, like others here have said, but I am optimistic that maybe people will someday open their minds to the possibility that psyches are actually useful.
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: MindDrips]
#18992304 - 10/17/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: That's what I'm getting at. The sixties however awesome and amazing really did more damage than good in the long run, unfortunately. Still wish I could have lived it.
I agree, as much of a turbulent time as it was, I would love to be in that era.
I suppose that personally, I do not necessarily wish to push psychedelics onto other people or people who wouldn't want to try them. I think that the main issue I have is the connotation that they have in popular society, and how they are frowned upon as drugs just designed to "fuck you up". As much as I do enjoy the high from psychedelics (I'd be lying if I said I didn't, I'm sure many will agree), I use them to gain new perspectives. I do not claim to be enlightened, but I hope that someday the majority will see psychedelics as the potential miracles that they are.
The radical "revolution" probably never will happen, like others here have said, but I am optimistic that maybe people will someday open their minds to the possibility that psyches are actually useful.
Well put. I agree with you 100%.
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18992529 - 10/17/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep, very well put.
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18995707 - 10/18/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Charlie Manson and Art Linkletter killed LSD in its tracks....plus the Vietnam War eventually ended. How the fuck are any kids gonna start a revolution when you can't even get them to congregate for the good of our freedom....everybody is too fucking lazy. There are NO demonstrations...that is how Psychs caught on in the 60's....young people fighting for the common good. Shit, kids nowadays can't break away from their X boxes long enough to take a piss! Good luck with your revolution.
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: Thayendanegea] 1
#18996112 - 10/18/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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baltimark said: Charlie Manson and Art Linkletter killed LSD in its tracks....plus the Vietnam War eventually ended. How the fuck are any kids gonna start a revolution when you can't even get them to congregate for the good of our freedom....everybody is too fucking lazy. There are NO demonstrations...that is how Psychs caught on in the 60's....young people fighting for the common good. Shit, kids nowadays can't break away from their X boxes long enough to take a piss! Good luck with your revolution.
That's fine and dandy, but remember we are mostly products of what we were raised in. The world is completely different than it was 50 years ago. You brought up some valid points, but it doesn't just stop there - kids will sleep until waken up. WHAT IS THERE TO WAKE THEM UP?
I believe a good portion of the world is "asleep".
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18996315 - 10/18/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It would be psychevolutionary to opt out of corporate USA/AUS/CAN structures that are doing not good but harm. Freedom to alter consciousness would come in when true sovereign responsibility is upheld. Understand (uphold) not (come out of her) the worshipful statutes of some STATE CORP, but your own power again.
Perhaps We create again; tell the supposed public servants our understanding and intent. Give proper notices, recorded in law to all government agencies; something like I attached or found here:http://www.lawofpeace.org/Affidavit.html; something like:
"I do not understand or recognize your law; it is not mine.
One man's rights end where another's nose begins.
(I claim the bible/Constitution as my law, I'm going to grow and use any plants I want, etc.)
Respond if you have any disagreements with this new contract between us in 30 days. If you do not respond I will take it that you do agree to this new understanding (and I will gain permanent estoppel by acquiescence)."
Give 2nd 3rd and Final notices and notice of Estoppel by acquiescence.
I've heard of this being done effectively.
I just found out that the UNITED STATES is a corporation; I'm not sure what to make of all of this but I need time and space to think it all over and don't think that is inside/underneath some shady corporation. I don't like what they've been doing at all and don't want to support it at all anymore either.
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: GreySatyr] 1
#18996365 - 10/18/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said: partly thanks to Leary and his promotion of let's get high and drop out of society instead of changing it from within.
"Leary later explained in his 1983 autobiography Flashbacks: "Turn on" meant go within to activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this end. "Tune in" meant interact harmoniously with the world around you - externalize, materialize, express your new internal perspectives. "Drop out" suggested an active, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. "Drop Out" meant self-reliance, a discovery of one's singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily my explanations of this sequence of personal development were often misinterpreted to mean "Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity".[4]"
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: Sheekle] 1
#18996738 - 10/18/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I personally believe that we are in the midst of a new revolution right now. People are being smarter and more low key instead of just gathering together in squalid living conditions and smearing paint all over each other's naked bodies while in the end accomplishing next to nothing other than partying.
I also like to imagine that everyone is spreading their old substrate around outdoors after they harvest the final flush.
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Re: Modern day psychedelic revolution??? [Re: blckmynnse8]
#18996778 - 10/18/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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All I know is everyone and their mother better start growing bridgesii for when or if it becomes illegal
But I'm seriously hoping that, just like with homosexuality and interracial marriage, people eventually come to their senses about psychedelics and REGULATE them but not ban them.
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Kind of tough to regulate if it's growing all over the place
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