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first grow less than impressive
    #18984620 - 10/16/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

hey guys :smile: i just picked the first batch of shrooms that ive ever grown. definitely very unsatisfied with the whole experience. going in i was expecting great things and now i feel very discouraged. it looks like its only going to be an ounce dry. i used the pf tek with 9 half pint canning jars and only got shrooms to grow out of the very bottoms of all the cakes. the rest of the pins stopped growing. also, i only got a couple good sized ones that were bigger than a bic lighter the rest were smaller. it was only their first flush but since i didnt get many fruits im wondering if its even worth it to try and get more out of the cakes? i dont even know if i should try growing again. i have two more syringes so if i do i might try my hand at casing instead. any others of you out there have similar experiences? is this pretty normal? lol reaching out to my best resources on the subject. thanks guys


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Re: first grow less than impressive [Re: lilybot]
    #18984681 - 10/16/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you attempted to follow the PF TEK to the letter, your issues are likely FAE/GE/humidity/temperature. That's my understanding, anyway.

Also, you did use tin foil as a buffer between the cake and the perlite, correct? Through my own digging around online, I've seen that this can saturate the cakes to the point of being waterlogged and difficult to grow with.

Better luck in the future, though.


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Re: first grow less than impressive [Re: lilybot]
    #18984828 - 10/16/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure what the problem is,sounds like you got around 3 grams per cake which isn't bad...especially for your first grow. Chances are you'll get another ounce from those cakes too


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Re: first grow less than impressive [Re: skeet157]
    #18984858 - 10/16/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Perormance is going to vary if your using spores.

So your not going to get cakes covered in mushrooms. What you can expect though is a decent enough flush if you provide the right conditions.

When i was donig cakes 50g first flush per cake was pretty much average on both the first and 2nd flush.

Also remember that mushrooms are mostly water so your rarely going to see monstors for cakes. The more pins that develop denerally the smaller they will be, however the more mushrooms make up for the lack of size. Bigger isnt always better.

You can see bigger mushrooms in later flushes when they put out fewer mushrooms.

www.mushroomvideos.com

watch the pf tek videos.

Remember, Humidity, fresh air and bright light in the daylight range in a day night schedule.

If you want stellar performance, aside from growing conditions you need good ginetics. Either by cloning or doing strain isolation. Doing alot of work testing out clones and isolates and keeping the best.

Cakes are a great introduction, but if your looking to grow in larger quantities. You need to look into bulk.

Just as an example, my last grow was using horse manure in mini tubs. not quite bulk but a step into bulk. a mini mono i had held 2 400ml jars of horsemanure and used 1 jar of grain spawn.

those would flush on average 100g first flush and somewhere round there 2nd flush.

I did get a canopy flush from 1 tub which was 200g and then it put out 120g on 2nd flush.

Not too bad for small tubs.


And not really much more effort.

Your other option though is to just make more ckaes, but thats tedious.


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Re: first grow less than impressive [Re: lilybot]
    #18984979 - 10/16/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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hey guys :smile: i just picked the first batch of shrooms that ive ever grown. definitely very unsatisfied with the whole experience. going in i was expecting great things and now i feel very discouraged. it looks like its only going to be an ounce dry. i used the pf tek with 9 half pint canning jars and only got shrooms to grow out of the very bottoms of all the cakes. the rest of the pins stopped growing. also, i only got a couple good sized ones that were bigger than a bic lighter the rest were smaller. it was only their first flush but since i didnt get many fruits im wondering if its even worth it to try and get more out of the cakes? i dont even know if i should try growing again. i have two more syringes so if i do i might try my hand at casing instead. any others of you out there have similar experiences? is this pretty normal? lol reaching out to my best resources on the subject. thanks guys




Nobody can help if you don't describe your procedures.  The only info you gave is that the cakes were too dry so they had to pin from the bottom.
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