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thelanzii

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mjmihalov said: Opiates are not shitty, all they do is release chemicals in your brain that make you feel good. How can feeling good be shitty?
And opiates have many uses, pain, antidepressant, cough & could alleviation, stops diarrhea, etc...
opiates have shityyy side affects
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Also does meth actually have physical withdrawals? Erowid was saying it didn't and most.of the physical effects seem to be more psychologically induced (picking sores, no appetite((debatable)) headaches ((can be caused from shitty appetite)). I know this sounds like an incredibly stupid question, but i gotta ask.
It's not your typical withdrawal where your actually sick for so many days after stopping. But there's deff a withdrawal to it, leaves your brain pretty depleted and it's very hard to recover fully from.
I used to think stim withdrawal was a joke after going through both benzo and opiate withdrawal. But after having a small meth habit there is deff a type of withdrawal associated with it.
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: thelanzii]
#18984130 - 10/15/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: Opiates are not shitty, all they do is release chemicals in your brain that make you feel good. How can feeling good be shitty?
And opiates have many uses, pain, antidepressant, cough & could alleviation, stops diarrhea, etc...
opiates have shityyy side affects
Yeah feeling awesome is a terrible side-effect
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Also does meth actually have physical withdrawals? Erowid was saying it didn't and most.of the physical effects seem to be more psychologically induced (picking sores, no appetite((debatable)) headaches ((can be caused from shitty appetite)). I know this sounds like an incredibly stupid question, but i gotta ask.
It's not your typical withdrawal where your actually sick for so many days after stopping. But there's deff a withdrawal to it, leaves your brain pretty depleted and it's very hard to recover fully from.
I used to think stim withdrawal was a joke after going through both benzo and opiate withdrawal. But after having a small meth habit there is deff a type of withdrawal associated with it.
I shot meth about 20 times. My favorite drug hands down. But when 8 am rolls around and you can't sleep, it fucking sucks hard. It is SO FUCKING HARD ON YOUR BODY. The before and afters of meth do not surprise me from my experience.
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: thelanzii]
#18984180 - 10/16/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nemmies said:
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mjmihalov said: Opiates are not shitty, all they do is release chemicals in your brain that make you feel good. How can feeling good be shitty?
And opiates have many uses, pain, antidepressant, cough & could alleviation, stops diarrhea, etc...
opiates have shityyy side affects
And on this I had whooping cough hacking my lungs out. I smoked .1 of heroin and didnt cough once after that. It was marketed as a cough suppressant but from my experience it was gold I thought I was going to literally cough a lung out.
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: Enjoywho]
#18984202 - 10/16/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to know this girl that was smoking hot and really awesome, then she got heavy into heroin for a couple years and the next time I saw her she looked like she was forty, and she was in her 20's. The light in her eyes was gone and she had been totally defeated
Now I am not saying that happens to everyone who does heroin, and I do not look down on people who do it as I have had many close friends and family take that path, but I do not want any part of a drug that has the potential to destroy someone like I have seen
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thelanzii

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mjmihalov said: Opiates are not shitty, all they do is release chemicals in your brain that make you feel good. How can feeling good be shitty?
And opiates have many uses, pain, antidepressant, cough & could alleviation, stops diarrhea, etc...
opiates have shityyy side affects
Yeah feeling awesome is a terrible side-effect
im not saying they dont have pros but their cons highly outweigh the experience imo. I relied on drugs to feel good at one point, now i can feel good without em
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It's not good for you. Weed and alcohol make me look worse these days but I know I didn't look as good as I thought when I was doing heroin. No drug is really "good" for you honestly. We are human though so we will justify our actions regardless.
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: Enjoywho]
#18984239 - 10/16/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said: It's not good for you. Weed and alcohol make me look worse these days but I know I didn't look as good as I thought when I was doing heroin. No drug is really "good" for you honestly. We are human though so we will justify our actions regardless.
LOL weed makes you look bad? Maybe from the munchies . . .
Alcohol I believe, that is a terrible drug
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Weed makes my eyes puffy and it does have a hangover. Makes me incredibly lethargic. I smoke 1/20th of what I used to 3 years ago now I only accept it when offered. Your mileage may vary man just my experiences with it.
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: Enjoywho]
#18984258 - 10/16/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said: It's not good for you. Weed and alcohol make me look worse these days but I know I didn't look as good as I thought when I was doing heroin. No drug is really "good" for you honestly. We are human though so we will justify our actions regardless.
Also there are plenty of drugs that are good for you
Anti-biotics, insulin for diabetics, ibogaine can cure addiction as well as ayahuasca and other psychedelics, LSD and Psilocybin in small doses cures cluster headaches, MDMA in small doses helps with depression
Of course all these drugs could be abused just as with anything such as food, porn, or many other things
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and people think alcohol isnt even a drug. the ignorance baffles me but on a real note opiates are fucked. most drugs are fucked. they cause crime, family issues, financial issues. People are crazy though so whatdafuckyagonnado
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Enjoywho said: It's not good for you. Weed and alcohol make me look worse these days but I know I didn't look as good as I thought when I was doing heroin. No drug is really "good" for you honestly. We are human though so we will justify our actions regardless.
Also there are plenty of drugs that are good for you
Anti-biotics, insulin for diabetics, ibogaine can cure addiction as well as ayahuasca and other psychedelics, LSD and Psilocybin in small doses cures cluster headaches, MDMA in small doses helps with depression
Of course all these drugs could be abused just as with anything such as food, porn, or many other things
That is just semantics man. Obviously were discussing illegal drug use. But I 100% agree with what you're saying.
Saying any "illegal" drug is particularly healthy a far off statement. Even if you smoke your weed you're getting many carcinogens. It was just my experience from it.
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: thelanzii] 2
#18984287 - 10/16/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nemmies said: and people think alcohol isnt even a drug. the ignorance baffles me but on a real note opiates are fucked. most drugs are fucked. they cause crime, family issues, financial issues. People are crazy though so whatdafuckyagonnado
That's like saying guns suddenly become animate, jump up and shoot people themselves instead of acknowledging the pieces of shit who actually commit the crimes. There is definitely crime as a direct byproduct of the marketing and distribution of illegal drugs, but that brings us to question the overall effectiveness(or lack thereof) of prohibition in general, or at least the way we go about it.
Too many people blame drugs and substances(just saying in general, not you specificially) "I was super drunk/high/withdrawaling"...like, seriously fuck right off and come back when you get the personal responsibility and sense of moderation your parents were supposed to instill in you a long time ago, and start exercising it. I just get sick of people using drugs as a scapegoat...
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: thelanzii]
#18984322 - 10/16/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nemmies said: but on a real note opiates are fucked. most drugs are fucked. they cause crime, family issues, financial issues. People are crazy though so whatdafuckyagonnado
Drugs don't cause that, people cause that by not respecting drugs, and they end up abusing them.
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thelanzii

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hard drug habits are far from cheap... whether they are legal or not drug habits make rational moral thought out of the question It is easy to blame drugs for stupid actions sure, but drugs can change one into a completely different person not everyone has a right minded family...
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Nemmies said: and people think alcohol isnt even a drug. the ignorance baffles me but on a real note opiates are fucked. most drugs are fucked. they cause crime, family issues, financial issues. People are crazy though so whatdafuckyagonnado
That's like saying guns suddenly become animate, jump up and shoot people themselves instead of acknowledging the pieces of shit who actually commit the crimes. There is definitely crime as a direct byproduct of the marketing and distribution of illegal drugs, but that brings us to question the overall effectiveness(or lack thereof) of prohibition in general, or at least the way we go about it.
Too many people blame drugs and substances(just saying in general, not you specificially) "I was super drunk/high/withdrawaling"...like, seriously fuck right off and come back when you get the personal responsibility and sense of moderation your parents were supposed to instill in you a long time ago, and start exercising it. I just get sick of people using drugs as a scapegoat...
QFT
I do some stupid shit for/with drugs, but I at least take responsibility for my own actiond and don't blame it on the drugs.
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Re: Drug Den Stories [Re: thelanzii] 2
#18984343 - 10/16/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This isnt why we jumped in on this thread, if we are really that concerned on defeding our stance on what is or isnt hard drugs there are plenty of threads about that or we could just go make one
NOW ON WITH THE DRUG DEN STORIES!!
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thelanzii

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Nemmies said: but on a real note opiates are fucked. most drugs are fucked. they cause crime, family issues, financial issues. People are crazy though so whatdafuckyagonnado
Drugs don't cause that, people cause that by not respecting drugs, and they end up abusing them.
you think a meth head can grasp the concept of respecting a drug? drugs can consume one's entire being there is no denying that. I was once one who advocated strongly for the individual freedom to use substances. But substance use does not just affect the individual user... which is a problem.
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LiquidGlass said: This isnt why we jumped in on this thread, if we are really that concerned on defeding our stance on what is or isnt hard drugs there are plenty of threads about that or we could just go make one
NOW ON WITH THE DRUG DEN STORIES!!
i would chill at this trap house in my town. buncha dealers who sold primarily weed and had a few other treats now and then. They got robbed blind for 5grand worth of stuff if not more when 3 of the 4 them were sleeping in the house
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