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Ever seen a slimy veil?
    #18983100 - 10/15/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)







Any ideas? Sorry the photo is so light.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Moorning Due]
    #18983142 - 10/15/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

gomphidius oregonensis
haven't eaten them yet, anyone else?


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: pseudoanonyrnous]
    #18983145 - 10/15/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks! These guys are popping up everywhere right now.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: pseudoanonyrnous]
    #18983150 - 10/15/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have eaten  Gomphidius glutinosus. Nothing to write home about and there is this wax like coating that tends to stay in your mouth a bit like hygrocybe.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Eddeee]
    #18983158 - 10/15/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone who writes home about a mushroom they ate is fucking lonely as shit.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: jet li]
    #18983167 - 10/15/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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jet li said:
Anyone who writes home about a mushroom they ate is fucking lonely as shit.





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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Lhun]
    #18983174 - 10/15/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I belive they call that a figure of speech let me rephrace. They tast like shit


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Eddeee]
    #18983185 - 10/15/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, the david aurora books say to peel off the slimy bit before cooking them.  seems like a lot of work if you're going to cook a nutritionally significant amount of them.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Eddeee]
    #18983192 - 10/15/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would actually write home about that though.  Dear Mom and Dad, Gomphidius glutinosus tastes like shit, and having a great time at community college.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: jet li]
    #18983216 - 10/15/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you have access to a nuclear analyzer, check them for traces of radioactive cesium from the fukushima disaster.  Gomphidius like to concentrate that.  If you don't have one I can get you the address of my friend who built one, and he can check the dried sample.  They differ from a geiger counter in that they use a sodium iodide doped with thallium sensor, which allows you not only to see the quantity of radiation, but also the type.  By comparing the graph with a reference standard, you can identify which element is giving off the radiation.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18983224 - 10/15/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dayam nice...


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: jet li]
    #18983234 - 10/15/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If anyone else has Gomphidius collections and would like them analyzed, PM me.  He asked me to get some Gomphidius for him, and I have not seen any since his request.  Does not appear to be present in southern Mexico....


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18983258 - 10/15/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think I have one of those in my basement. Alan is that true for a lot of fungi? Also does that include Gymnopus dryophilus which is known to concentrate heavy metals.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: Eddeee]
    #18983264 - 10/15/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you find a significant amount of Litium 6 pm me.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: jet li]
    #18983299 - 10/15/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If you find a significant amount of Litium 6 pm me.




Do you have a reference standard for Lithium 6?  It is hard to precisely identify the radiation source without a reference standard.


I think Gomphidius is best for accumulating cesium.  Stamets says it accumulates it very strongly, however I have no idea if that is true.

Agaricus is known for accumulating metals.  I am not sure if the heavy metal accumulation is more of a theoretical thing, or if it can actually cause real world problems.  There isn't much good science on the matter.


Here is a recent mailing list post by Douglas Smith on the issue:


I'm not sure you can say that mushrooms are "hyper-concentrators"
of heavy metals.  I've not seen things that are that conclusive on that.
If anything they are possible to probable concentrators of some metals,
but there is a lot of disparity by species, and unknown.  A study from
Sweden right after Chernobyl did not find accumulations in Chanterelles.
Although others have found Arsenic to some level above background in
Laccaria (although Arsenic is not a heavy metal).  The study of morels
in contaminated apple orchards did not find arsenic to measurable levels
but did find only slightly elevated levels of lead.

These are only small accumulations not hyper-concentrators.  I also
wonder about the methods, the levels of metals sited are usually from
dry material, which is going to be conentrated mushroom, since over
90% of the mushroom mass is taken away by drying.  And I'm never
sure how they washed the mushroom to make sure that dirt and soils
contaminats were not in the measurements, that never seems to be
covered in the papers very well?

Not that I want to get into it very deeply, but the whole concentrator
of heavy metal seems to be slightly suspect, and not very well documented
really yet.  There are suggestions, and some happens here and there
in some species, but only by a factor of two perhaps for certain materials,
but not a hyper-concentrators of all heavy metals...

Douglas


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: jet li]
    #18983406 - 10/15/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone who writes home about a mushroom they ate is fucking lonely as shit.



:rofl:
Please start posting all year long.


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Re: Ever seen a slimy veil? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18983416 - 10/15/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

HA! :zomgteehee:


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