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October Grow (First ever, GT)
    #18937717 - 10/05/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sup y'all, long time lurker, first time grower using the PF tek for some GTs. This forum has been indispensable with its plethora of well-organized and easily searchable information, so a big thanks to everyone who helps make this community what it is. Started with 7 half pint jars, covered with aluminum foil and steam sterilized in a pot with a tight fitting lid (don't own a PC yet). Inoculated inside a still air box. 5 of them reached 100% colonization in about three weeks, the other 2 are slower to colonize since not every inoculation point showed growth. I haven't yet seen any contams, and didn't use micropore tape.
Growth stages, with some cool-looking rhizo mycelium:

100% colonized (I flipped a few of them to see if it'd make a difference):

The 5 jars were given an extra week for consolidation, and were dunked for 24hrs (loved that healthy, mushroomy smell), to be rolled in verm and then birthed into my "poor man's pod". Props to Magash for the awesome design.

Should I stuff the holes with polyfill, or is it not really a big deal? I plan on implementing adjustable plastic covers to better control the humidity inside.
I know SGFCs are always the most highly recommended for beginners, but I'm going to give this PMP a shot, with manual misting and fanning 2-3 times a day. The air pump should cycle out the air pretty efficiently, according to my calculations. If it doesn't work out, I'll have learned my lesson. Going with a 12/12 light cycle using a 6500k bulb. We'll see how it goes, I'm definitely excited now after seeing my first pin in one of the jars.

I'll be updating the thread as the grow moves along, please feel free to comment/criticize/suggest anything!

Here are the cakes in the FC after dunk n' roll, split one of them in half to see the inside and to find out how it affects fruiting. Also more recent pics.


A pictorial time lapse of the first cake that pinned, largest fruit ~10g wet but I guess I can't complain, it was MS after all. PMP indeed works quite well, on small scale grows at least.


Cake #2 :smile:

My prettiest cluster, I think :ooo: (2nd flush)


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18937925 - 10/05/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

From what I've read on here, upside down jars are only "sometimes" beneficial if you have stalled jars that won't colonize the bottom. Other than that reason, which i don't think is actually proven, the jars shouldn't be upside down.

Other than that looks neat! Good luck man :smile:


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: jackalope9517]
    #18938053 - 10/05/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I forgot to mention that there were small, uncolonized patches of brown on the bottom of the jars I flipped. I got impatient and decided to flip them although it probably wasn't necessary. And thanks :grin:


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18938444 - 10/05/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm also working on my very first grow with GT - I just birthed my first few cakes a couple days ago. Sending good vibes from my fruiting chamber to yours.  :thedude:


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: Schwammerl]
    #18938508 - 10/06/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Schwammerl said:
I'm also working on my very first grow with GT - I just birthed my first few cakes a couple days ago. Sending good vibes from my fruiting chamber to yours.  :thedude:



Hell yea I think a lot of TCs forget to mention good vibes in their fancy shmancy teks.

Can i get some good vibes? I'm doing my first mono!  :rockon:


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: jackalope9517]
    #18938625 - 10/06/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good start, maybe get a SGFC ready just in case your PMP don't perform the way you want. Then knock up a dozen pf cakes just in case it does :wink: I always recommend that more is more :lol:

Looks good so far tho :awesomenod: :popcorn:


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18940972 - 10/06/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the good vibes Schwammerl, I'm cheering everyone on as well :cheer: And yup, I have another 7 jars colonizing as we speak, Pasty. Can't wait to see pins, I'll update when anything changes.


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18964687 - 10/11/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Starting to see some pinning on one of my cakes. I've been doing extra misting (once in the morning, once at night), and fanning after each mist. The spray bottle I use produces a very fine mist, so I don't think it's hurting anything. I also covered one of the holes on my PMP to keep the humidity nice and high, and it seemed to speed up the pinning, although it could be coincidence. Will update again soon with some pics.

Edit: I'm dunking one of the slow to colonize cakes at the moment, which had a few pins on it already, one of which I added to an agar plate for isolation. We'll see how that pans out! 
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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18965298 - 10/11/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would stuff the holes to keep bugs out.


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: Enigma1]
    #18965389 - 10/11/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I would stuff the holes to keep bugs out.




uhh what? If you have a bug problem you have a bug problem... If people had to cover their fruiting chambers for bug control then the SGFC would never work and monotubs would even be a problem.


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18967373 - 10/12/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Updated OP with a picture of first cake that showed pinning. You can see in the picture what looks like little strands/branches of mycelium growing off the cake, what I think is known as aerial mycelium? Do they need more FAE? Thanks.
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Aerial mycelium.  Don't drop the humidity, but give more fresh air if you want it to start pinning.
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The type of mycelium that goes aerial is the same kind of mycelium that forms hyphal knots, but the aerial strands do not become knots themselves, nor do hyphal knots appear on them.  They're usually a sign of good things to come however.
RR




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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18973587 - 10/13/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a picture of my failed attempt at agar :sad: Not sure why it failed, looks like the pin just rotted and bacteria took over.


And here's a picture of another pin that I added to a LC mix, which I'm thinking will fail too. Has anyone ever done it this way, successfully? I sprayed it with a diluted bleach solution because it was taken from a cake that had been in my FC for a while now. I should have just used a syringe and poked through it, I'm guessing it will contam or not grow at all. It was done in a SAB. Ironically, I took the picture on top of my microbiology notes :rolleyes: We'll see what happens.


To update, all of my cakes have started pinning, one of them head and shoulders above the rest. First post has been updated with pics. On the picture of the single cake, I notice the mushrooms have a tree-like look to them, is that brown color normal/common to GTs? Or do they look dry to you guys? I've been misting a lot...


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18982688 - 10/15/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, a couple of veils have broken on my first cake :grin: I updated the first post with a couple pics. Largest one only weighed 10g wet though, seems kind of light. Perhaps the cake ran out of water, or maybe it's genetics. Regardless, I'm really happy to see the fruits of my labor (pun intended)! I'm taking a spore print of the largest fruit. Looking forward to the rest of my cakes finishing their first flush, and will be redunking for a 2nd.


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18982720 - 10/15/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck man!


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: iamerror73]
    #18982803 - 10/15/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, I see you're about to start your first grow too. You got this :thumbup: and remember that patience is key. Also, I didn't mean to sound sour in my last post, I really am very pleased with my first cake :smile: I learned all about fungi today in Bio, I'm so proud of my little basidiocarps :wink:


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #19019239 - 10/23/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Cakes are on their second flush now, some of which are performing better than the 1st, others not as much. Those half cakes I made produced some nice fruits on their own, so I may do that to at least one cake every time, if space allows. Bottom of the stems were fuzzy on some of the cakes, so I guess there were some slight FAE issues but overall I was pleased with my results :shroomeryhead:
About 13g dry from the first flush. I'll probably do a few more PF tek grows (want to test out my LC, fingers crossed), and then tackle casing eventually.


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Re: OO's October Grow (First ever, GT) [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #19070884 - 11/01/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just one final update. Ended up with a total yield of 34.6g, pretty good for 5 cakes I'd say! Towards the end of the third flush, I woke up to a patch of mold on one of the cakes, basically took all the cakes out, harvested what I could, mashed them up together in a bag (without the moldy cake), and threw them outside in the grass. We'll see what happens with that :cool: Then I dumped the water, gave everything a good rinse, and replaced with fresh water.
Here's a pic of the mold, I think it's trich?

Thanks for the help guys, I have another grow that will start soon, GWM and GTs again from an LC I made.


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