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Amanita virosa
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A. Augustus?
#18982618 - 10/15/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dark brown spore print. Impressive hymenium. Looks like a blazei! But it is not know from the mountains. Growing under white oak in grass.
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fry day


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Hm. That's an awful lot of veil for augustus, in my experience. Seems to me they usually tear promptly as the cap starts to come up, haven't seen any that has veil still clinging to the pileus when it's fully open. Compare to these:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18581604#18581604
Since the pics aren't the best, only you know what they looked like in the field.
How do they smell? Crush the base of the stem on the oldest one, ane then slice it in half. Any yellow bruising? A lot or a little?
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Amanita virosa
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: fry day]
#18982655 - 10/15/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Smells like almonds. No yellowing.
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paracelsus



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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: fry day]
#18982709 - 10/15/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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guessing agaricus campestris var. squamulosus 
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fry day


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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: fry day]
#18982716 - 10/15/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Taste a little bit and spit it out. Tasty? Pleasant? Any peppery or annoying flavor?
The first mature one I cut yellowed just a tiny bit. I believe the non-yellowing is a sign of a good agaricus. Apparently the bad ones stain quickly and severely.
I think they probably are, if not augustus, then a good agaricus. But all of those in the pic look pretty mature, the one that's chocolate brown gills may be too far gone.
A TI will come along eventually... But with the spores, smell, non staining etc I'm sure it's good.
You may want to slice up that old one outside and see if maggots come swarming out. ;-)
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Amanita virosa
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: fry day]
#18982737 - 10/15/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Smells strongly of almonds. No yellowing. I cooked a bit and ate it. So far so good. Figured there aren't any deadly agaricus species so worst case scenario is s belly ache. It was quite tasty.
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jet li
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You badass.
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i'd eat those if someone offered them to me
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: jet li]
#18982879 - 10/15/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think its Agustus Just the description and no yellowing I also have found that all the almond smelling Agaricus I have no problem eating them. although some people can be sinsitive to any Agaricus. I think you LL be good here
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Amanita virosa
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: Eddeee]
#18983154 - 10/15/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any tc's out there care to chime in on this one? Would love a pos id
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psylosymonreturns
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Id say its A augustus for sure. That veil is a dead give away as well as the smell and the fibrils on the cap.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: fry day]
#18983326 - 10/15/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fry day said: Hm. That's an awful lot of veil for augustus, in my experience. Seems to me they usually tear promptly as the cap starts to come up, haven't seen any that has veil still clinging to the pileus when it's fully open.
My recent collection from Mexico had a huge veil, like OP's. Pics are not online yet though...
From what I can see they sure look like A. augustus. If the stem is shaggy below the veil and smooth above, I would call them that. There are at least 2 species going under that name in California, and probably more in the rest of the country.
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jet li
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Amanita virosa
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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fry day said: Hm. That's an awful lot of veil for augustus, in my experience. Seems to me they usually tear promptly as the cap starts to come up, haven't seen any that has veil still clinging to the pileus when it's fully open.
My recent collection from Mexico had a huge veil, like OP's. Pics are not online yet though...
From what I can see they sure look like A. augustus. If the stem is shaggy below the veil and smooth above, I would call them that. There are at least 2 species going under that name in California, and probably more in the rest of the country.
Thanks alan, It was exactly as u describe. Shaggy below and smooth above. I will clone this strain tomorrow morning. Amazing flavor. Never tasted anything quite like it.
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fry day


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I will clone this strain tomorrow morning. Amazing flavor. Never tasted anything quite like it.
And I have spore prints if you want them. There was some talk in the thread I posted earlier as to how someone had tried to get 'em going but had no luck...
I left the last large one that popped in a new location to sporulate - but I might grab it at the end for another print.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: fry day]
#18983980 - 10/15/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agaricus spores germinate slowly if at all. Best to clone.
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fry day


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Ah... 
DO let us know how you get on , Av.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Ganzig
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: fry day]
#18984021 - 10/15/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fry day said: Ah... 
DO let us know how you get on , Av.
AV can do it. He is kind of a big deal. Haha
Did anyone see his lime bathed straw thread?
Cool stuff.
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Amanita virosa
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Re: A. Augustus? [Re: Ganzig]
#18985963 - 10/16/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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agaricus is easy as pie to clone compared to say..... a wood ear.
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fry day


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These are such a prime edible, it'd be awesome if they could be put into production. But there must be a reason why it hasn't been done?
They do dry up light, tho'. I imagine you could get a week and a half maybe two of storage on 'em if taken at the right time...
I have a couple of brown amanitas I took 3-4 days ago that are sitting out on my porch, amazingly they have just kept growing.
I like that idea - shrooms that keep getting larger in transit.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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