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OfflineKiya_Star427
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What are your thoughts on Chi?
    #18981141 - 10/15/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here check out this short little documentary about John Chang a Oriental Healer who uses Chi, watch this amazing video:



Here is another mystic healer named Master Zhou demonstrating his Chi


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: Kiya_Star427] * 1
    #18981153 - 10/15/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That first guy was proven a fake.  Look into it. I have never seen the second guy.

But the Chinese are so totally full of shit. Almost everything in their culture is a bunch of sloppy showmen conning the hoi polloi, and they suck it up. 

I'll tell you that chi cannot stand against a smoggy Los Angeles day. Before chi - I recommend giving up smoking and jacking off.

Also, having a doctor or other scientist confirms details is a sure sign of a hoax because there's no science in the occult. I know many will disagree, because they have mushy-intellectualis syndrome. But science demands that a result is duplicable. Even if someone could say levitate for real it still wouldn't be science because it couldn't be duplicated. 

All that said, I do know chi is true, but these showy things aren't. Chi is the energy of an organism.  Some organisms, some people make you feel whole and comfortable, some make you want to scrub off and when you shake their hand you want to wash it.  That's the more usual effect of chi. 

If you watch something and your first thought is 'bullshit' it will also be your last thought. Your chi knows.


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: eve69]
    #18981212 - 10/15/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I guess truthfully this is one of those things you have to see for yourself, b/c science can't explain the supernatural. But I have to agree with all of what you said, nice points


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: Kiya_Star427]
    #18981267 - 10/15/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's a myth that science has to explain anything.  Science comes to explain some things. Science has not come to a complete explanation of everything. A TOE (Theory of Everything) is a type of scientifical red herring. Many have been formulated using quantum physics and some people like to say that's proof for various quantum/consciousness-based-universe claims. But it's not proof. Not even a hypothesis. Basic maths teach us we need postulates with actuality in order to form workable hypothesis.

Science comes to an understanding through proving a test theorem through experimentation. The New Age pseudo-scientists (and religions) take some theory then say that proves something else.  Like - the Bible says so therefore Earth was created in 6 days (7th was for rest and pizza). Or more to the point - air is not visible yet it has substance - therefore the Holy Spirit exists and science has failed to see it.

This 'science' which has failed is in fact not a thing, not a person, not a subject. It's just a notion.  If there were actual observable and objective facts with which to begin experimentation within the occult world, then science would have a hook. But since there isn't people say science has failed. Who really has failed are the people who continue to hold onto mushy-minded beliefs without any objective phenomenas. In which case what I observe, being the rank pseudospiritual person I am is that someones ego is leaking out through the spacehatch. A better seal is needed.


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: eve69]
    #18981308 - 10/15/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Science can't explain a lot of thing, but they like to think they can, like radioactive dating, that has been proved false yet they continue pushing there wrong hypothesis as facts, and that there lies the problem.

People are no longer questioning things, but taking it in as fact, that is the opposite of science, it is not longer science but doctrine.


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: Kiya_Star427]
    #18981486 - 10/15/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Kiya_Star427 said:
Science can't explain a lot of thing, but they like to think they can, like radioactive dating, that has been proved false yet they continue pushing there wrong hypothesis as facts, and that there lies the problem.

People are no longer questioning things, but taking it in as fact, that is the opposite of science, it is not longer science but doctrine.




You're the problem on the other end of the spectrum. For instance just because carbon dating is flawed and sometimes way inaccurate doest mean we should call it false as a whole.


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: Kiya_Star427]
    #18982203 - 10/15/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Kiya_Star427 said:
truthfully this is one of those things you have to see for yourself, b/c science can't explain the supernatural.




Science might be able to explain it one day but as of now chi is something that has to be experienced to be believed, unless of course you're someone who chooses to believe in marvels without reason.


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: eve69]
    #18984949 - 10/16/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That first guy was proven a fake.  Look into it. I have never seen the second guy.

But the Chinese are so totally full of shit. Almost everything in their culture is a bunch of sloppy showmen conning the hoi polloi, and they suck it up. 

I'll tell you that chi cannot stand against a smoggy Los Angeles day. Before chi - I recommend giving up smoking and jacking off.

Also, having a doctor or other scientist confirms details is a sure sign of a hoax because there's no science in the occult. I know many will disagree, because they have mushy-intellectualis syndrome. But science demands that a result is duplicable. Even if someone could say levitate for real it still wouldn't be science because it couldn't be duplicated. 

All that said, I do know chi is true, but these showy things aren't. Chi is the energy of an organism.  Some organisms, some people make you feel whole and comfortable, some make you want to scrub off and when you shake their hand you want to wash it.  That's the more usual effect of chi. 

If you watch something and your first thought is 'bullshit' it will also be your last thought. Your chi knows.





Can you demonstrate the proof of the first guy as a fake? AFAIK I have never heard of such a thing. He's well discussed on other forums.


All of this is fairly hilarious to me... I study physics and have familiarity with both sides of the... equation.

At this point in science there is a divergence. We have two modes of thought running in parallel: one - the human body is a fleshbot that can eat and shit and nothing much more, two - the human body can perform powerful actions far beyond our present comprehension. I know which one I am siding with, because one encompasses in full the understanding of the other.




Science will be explaining this stuff very soon. It's awesome. The age of portable EEG is upon us and with that, all we really need to do is measure nervous system activity point-point along the body. A thermal imaging cam might help but I am confident I can point to the nature of Qi within the human body.


There is assuredly a way to bridge the understandings. From my own experience I'd say this:

Chi = wavefunction decohereing force/phenomena (physical light/photonic oscillation)
Jing = physical momentum (sound)
Shen = !?!?! (Clear Light/unified force/non-local data)


I was in utter awe at the concept of the semiconductor laser. A simple 'band gap' translates precisely into the emission of photons of a colour/frequency according to the bandgap. Thinking of that, the next logical step is of course, a variable band-gap material where colour can be chosen in real-time by the alternation of bandgap widths according to a particular function.

With this nagging question in my head I ended up stumbling upon Chi Gong and realised that the answer was within me all along, all I had to do was follow my dreams and play to my strengths and become a strong independent black woman who don't need no mayne 420blazeitfgt.

Anyhow, what I understand is that Chi is the 'variable bandgap' device, Shen is that which chooses the bandgap width, and Jing is the resulted photon-phonon emission. En route to getting some imaging technology and other things if my mind doesn't spontaneously combust along the way. It's a brilliant age for physics and spirituality, let me tell you.


http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/sep/26/physicists-create-molecules-of-light
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/09/seeing-light-in-a-new-way/
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The reason they form the never-before-seen molecules?  It’s an effect called a Rydberg blockade, Lukin said, which means that when an atom is excited, nearby atoms cannot be excited to the same degree. In practice, the effect means that as two photons enter the atomic cloud, the first excites an atom, but it must move forward before the second photon can excite nearby atoms.

The result, he said, is that the two photons push and pull each other through the cloud as their energy is handed off from one atom to the next.

“It’s a photonic interaction that’s mediated by the atomic interaction,” Lukin said. “That makes these two photons behave like a molecule, and when they exit the medium they’re much more likely to do so together than as single photons.”

While the effect is unusual, it has some practical applications.

“We do this for fun, and because we’re pushing the frontiers of science,” Lukin said. “But it feeds into the bigger picture of what we’re doing because photons remain the best possible means to carry quantum information. The handicap, though, has been that photons don’t interact with each other.”

To build a quantum computer, he said, researchers need to build a system that can preserve quantum information and process it using quantum logic operations. The challenge, however, is that quantum logic requires interactions between individual quanta so that quantum systems can be switched to perform information processing.

“What we demonstrate with this process allows us to do that,” Lukin said. “Before we make a useful, practical quantum switch or photonic logic gate, we have to improve the performance. So it’s still at the proof-of-concept level, but this is an important step. The physical principles we’ve established here are important.”





The reason Master Zhou can take a sledgehammer brick smash to the head is because within his Shen he has defined his head to be invulnerable, and set a Snap-To-Grid effect on his skull which locks it to that point in Absolute Space. The resulting effect is that renders a reflective surface for the shockwave of the sledgehammer to move. Normally a human would not place that reflector up and the shockwave would smash their brains open. For further information please consult this treatise on 4D physics:





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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: crkhd]
    #18985182 - 10/16/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It would be hard for me to retrace my route to get you the goods. There was a long article about two years ago which showed this cult of martial artists doing fantastic things and they were proven to all be prestidigitation. I am not on the council for bucking superstition. People can believe what they choose. I am just throwing this out there since I saw it awhile back. People can research further or not at their own leisure.

My time is very valuable - there's a new porn site I just spoofed.


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: eve69]
    #18985393 - 10/16/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's why chi masters are full of shit.



MMA fighter had to pay the guy 5 grand american to fuck his face up for the world to see.


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: Yogi1]
    #18985574 - 10/16/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:  He just had it turned off that day and forgot his keys.  :monkeydance:


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Re: What are your thoughts on Chi? [Re: Icelander]
    #18985724 - 10/16/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Seen that video... it changes nothing. Reason being that it's Light itself, not an individual, which handles Chi. Otherwise an individual could of their own accord turn this world into a 5 Stars on GTA with hax situation and that would be rather unbecoming of Divine Energy...


There is a way this stuff works, all EM interactions. With some kind of technology that could image the electrical activity of nerves in real time, we would be able to see what is going on in situations like that. Chi is the name given to a phenomenon, something already observed, a classification. Denying it is literally as denying that nerves fire EM fields.


People can exaggerate their own achievements. And even then, someone else could come along whose capability were far beyond the exaggeration of the frauding one. We're in the age where a bunch of talking monkeys talk to each other across the entire planet using intricate electrical machinery that once only existed in their imaginations.

When you write with a pen on paper, take the pen away and follow the movement you made of writing the words exactly how you did. That movement is your Chi in action. It is as simple as that; the pen is just a tool to manifest/freeze its results for better observation. Otherwise it is constantly flowing.


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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