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Orange Mystery Mushroom
    #18980632 - 10/15/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat:

Litchfield, CT
At the base of a maple tree

Gills:
pale orange, not attached

Stem:
very thick stem, light orange, streaks running down it

Cap:
5 inch diameter, convex

Spore print color:

Rusty orange

Bruising:

None

Other information:

very weak scent















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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18980749 - 10/15/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If it tastes bitter, has a dry cap and was growing directly from wood, consider Gymnopilus.


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18985116 - 10/16/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It does taste very bitter, but was growing at the base of a tree, not directly on it, which confused me

Cap is dry too


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18985138 - 10/16/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Could it be a deadly cortinarius? In CT?


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18985153 - 10/16/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Was it growing from soil or wood? Gymnopilus will grow directly from wood (but it might be buried) whereas Cortinarius will grow from the ground (they are mycorrhizal - associating with tree roots)


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TimmiT]
    #18985196 - 10/16/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Id have to go back to where i found it and take note of where it was growing, but im positive it was on the forest floor beside a tree. Whether or not it was growing out of wood on the ground remains a mystery.

Does Cortinarius have a distinctive taste? This was definitely bitter


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18989531 - 10/17/13 04:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There's not a general rule about taste of Cortinarius. Some might be bitter but I don't know.

These look like a Gymnopilus rather than a Cortinarius. The cespitose habit (growing in clumps attached at the base) also suggests Gymnopilus.


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TimmiT]
    #18989549 - 10/17/13 04:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm going to have to go with TimmiT on this one. They look like a gymnopilus species.
Maybe G. Luteus if I had to throw a guess out? They seem to have the right shape and sized stem and the annular zone seems to fit.


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: lsms]
    #18989560 - 10/17/13 04:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd just call it 'Gymnopilus junonius group'


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TimmiT]
    #18989949 - 10/17/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I hope you guys are right.

Its either an active, then, or the most deadly mushroom in the world.

Pretty risky odds there


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TimmiT]
    #18992525 - 10/17/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd just call it 'Gymnopilus junonius group'





Could be.  It is too small for the G. spectabilis group.


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18992911 - 10/17/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Are there any other good tips for telling the two genuses apart?


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18992922 - 10/17/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Most Gymnopilus species have a mild anise odor.

And they generally have capitate lamellar cystidia.

Taste is one of the easiest ways, Pholiotas and Cortinarius are not bitter.

The one you really want to watch out for is Galerina.  Those are never bitter and always have a smooth cap.



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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18992935 - 10/17/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ah, well in that case it must be Gymnopilus due to bitterness.

Do you think it is active?


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18992984 - 10/17/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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TheVerdantChef said:
Do you think it is active?





Is it staining blue or green at all?


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18992987 - 10/17/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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TheVerdantChef said:
Do you think it is active?





Is it staining blue or green at all?




No. Should active gyms stain those colors?


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18993004 - 10/17/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, though you do not always see the stains in every single fruit body.  It is most common on pins.


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18993052 - 10/17/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not going to risk it with these.

Tomorrow I will try and find some more in the woods, take a good picture this time before I pluck em.

I am looking forward to finding some active gyms but I'm not going to try and convince myself to use these.


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Re: Orange Mystery Mushroom [Re: TheVerdantChef]
    #18993206 - 10/17/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Damn son you is wise.


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