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OfflineMescalean
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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: NetDiver]
    #18978109 - 10/14/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To me right now nothing feels real. Usually a signal for me to take a long tea break.

Maybe whats real is what the mind percieves, everyone has their own reality.

Im gonna miss weed for a while fuck ):


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: Envix]
    #18978144 - 10/14/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have thoughts like that all the time, I try to ignore them.


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OfflineMescalean
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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: fapjack]
    #18978160 - 10/14/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What if were all just one random persons reality and cease to exist once they pass.

I remember as a kid play legend of zelda links awakening on gameboy and the plot was everyone was just this dream of this giant whale thing called the windfish.

Fucked with me as a kid laying in bed "what if"


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: Envix]
    #18978218 - 10/14/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As far as I know, this thread has gone way too far for the impact of a computer simulation devised by The Divine not to be an alternative.  This could be some otherworldly adventure we have to complete like in The Matrix.  Just sayin...


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: mpd]
    #18978323 - 10/14/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A few trips ago while i was lying down to sleep on the comedown (was a little drunk too) i got slammed woth the most vivid hypnagogic image, of myself lying in a tub of disinfectant, in a doctor's office. Only it wasn't me, just a long tube of lifeless meat, wired up and being fed information from a computer. A couple weeks later we talk about the brain-in-a-vat theory in a class, and it was so crazy, i wanted to tell the professor i'd died and seen the computer he was talking about. I don't honestly believe this is life, but it was such a vivid image. I think i'd heard the brain in a vat theory looooong before and just forgot about it until then.


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Invisibleunknown1123
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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: drkkenny]
    #18978407 - 10/14/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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drkkenny said:
That is solipsism my friend, yes, indeed, it does seem we can only trust that we are the only person in life. For all we know we may be only imagining other people into existence, they could just be something which gives the impression of being there but which could be a product of our own imagination.

I remember my mother had a period in her life where she thought that everyone around her was who she used to be along time ago, she felt that they were previous forms of herself which have changed themselves into a different appearance in order to try to trick her...Albeit, she did go slightly "mad" and checked into an asylum somewhere around here...She couldn't go anywhere without thinking that people were trying to get inside her head and play tricks on her, as if every single moment of the world was casting some strange spell that was out to get her, she never felt safe doing anything because she assumed that there were other beings that were plotting to overthrow her rule. She felt the presence of other people trying to enter inside her mind and plant subliminal messages in order to try and delude her more, to try to create more disorder in a mind already gone "maddened".

Whenever she saw someone she automatically would assume it was someone that had it out for her, that they were going to try to pull something right when she least expected it, and the doctors told her that noone was out to get her, that she was perfectly fine and that noone would ever try and do something harmful to her.

She believed everything the good doctor told her and never suspected anything after that, every person to her then became a splendid angel which was illuminating the world with a wide array of beautiful symbols which were only to help her, not to "mind fuck" her or anything like that.  a few years later she suspected that the doctors were in on it and that now she had noone she could turn to except herself. Now this is fairly evident, we are the only ones whom we can truly "trust" and even then, can you trust yourself?  At times I cannot trust that what I'm doing is for my best benefit, I will do something that I know I shouldn't have done but still will do it anyway, and I can't stop myself from doing this thing without sacrificing something essential in myself.



Does anyone else this person's posts? they are all intricate and in depth

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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: unknown1123]
    #18978413 - 10/14/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They are often a little long for my attention span, but I do find them to be quite insightful usually when I do take the time to read them.


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18978425 - 10/14/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What a coincidence, solipsism is the word of the day on an app that I use on my phone.


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OfflineEnvix
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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18980126 - 10/15/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the whole universe is coincidence (synchronicity, rather).

life is a trip. my own existence is the only thing i can know with 100% certainty as being "real".

how can one go on living life with the knowledge that everything is a dream, and all the dream characters are just figments of the divine's imagination, including myself even perhaps

could be me, could be one of you guys, could be a windfish, could be god. whoever the dreamer is, they've got one hell of an imagination

so tell me, my solipsist dream character friends, how can the thought of being "the only one" not depress you? how can i go on living life with optimism and confidence after being shown the whole universe is all just a dream bubble of my own imaginings?

it seems very existential to me, however i can also see it as being a quest full of boundless possibilities. but what about others? how can i help others if all it does is give my own self a small sense of gratitude?

i want to know that other people are having crazy awesome life adventures too, not just me. and i want to know i can help other people in their own lives. but how can i do this if the only thing i can know for certain is my own life?

i'm trapped in a dream where i feel i must help others who only exist in my own imagination. and i must do this or else i'll feel sad. but how can i do this for realz if it's all just in my head?

it's like a weird conflicting feeling of being trapped and helpless and also being free and having endless possibilities.

:feelsweirdman:


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: Envix]
    #18981265 - 10/15/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Envix said:
the whole universe is coincidence (synchronicity, rather).

life is a trip. my own existence is the only thing i can know with 100% certainty as being "real".

how can one go on living life with the knowledge that everything is a dream, and all the dream characters are just figments of the divine's imagination, including myself even perhaps

could be me, could be one of you guys, could be a windfish, could be god. whoever the dreamer is, they've got one hell of an imagination

so tell me, my solipsist dream character friends, how can the thought of being "the only one" not depress you? how can i go on living life with optimism and confidence after being shown the whole universe is all just a dream bubble of my own imaginings?

it seems very existential to me, however i can also see it as being a quest full of boundless possibilities. but what about others? how can i help others if all it does is give my own self a small sense of gratitude?

i want to know that other people are having crazy awesome life adventures too, not just me. and i want to know i can help other people in their own lives. but how can i do this if the only thing i can know for certain is my own life?

i'm trapped in a dream where i feel i must help others who only exist in my own imagination. and i must do this or else i'll feel sad. but how can i do this for realz if it's all just in my head?

it's like a weird conflicting feeling of being trapped and helpless and also being free and having endless possibilities.

:feelsweirdman:



You will never die, you will continue experiencing everything possible, from every point of view there is. If you try and end it, you will wake up in a more depressed and sad as you live with the fact that you just attempted to end everything. If you wait it out and see it through, the only direction you can go is up and eventually the lines between fantasy and reality will fade away and you won't even realize you've been in heaven all along.


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #18981276 - 10/15/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The only reason we think we are alive is because we need intelligence to move forward and expand. We are nothing, we are like a bacteria, multiplying, if you kill one bacteria while looking user a microscope, it doesn't matter, it only matters what the bacteria accomplishes as a whole. Life has no meaning, we are all one.


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: Chowder963]
    #18981357 - 10/15/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not at all. Regardless of what consciousness actually is, what we see is not by any means real or truth. What we see is heavily filtered and broken down by our brain to make it a little easier to digest in terms of sensory information. There are animals who's brain can process whole other spectrums of color, colors that we cannot even imagine to be real(the butterfly, mantis shrimp, some more I can't think of) and yet their brain is capable of processing it and seeing things we do not.

In a slightly more tangible sense about seeing the world, I don't think any one person can offer a truly objective view of the world to begin with and I am wary of people who approach things with that attitude. Just because you see things one way does not mean that it is a universal truth or in anyway, truth. That's less about consciousness and sensory information and more about attitude.


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: pirate-blues]
    #18981398 - 10/15/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think you understood what I was saying, unless you weren't talking in response to what I said.


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: Chowder963]
    #18981459 - 10/15/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

my birthday is the same as ram dass


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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: Envix]
    #18981544 - 10/15/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Envix said:
as a conscious being, what can you trust as "real" when your own existence is the only evident thing that can be observed as "real"?

anything outside of one's own existence can be nothing more than speculation.

discuss?



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Re: i've got one question for you, shroomery [Re: Chowder963]
    #18981594 - 10/15/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Chowder963 said:
I don't think you understood what I was saying, unless you weren't talking in response to what I said.






I was not responding to you, sorry. Didn't switch the default "responding to" setting.


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