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UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD
    #18955416 - 10/09/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was born tripping balls.
I FUCKING LOVE IT, I have close eye and opened eye imagery appear all day. I have absurd thoughts and not sure if it is real or not.

Help me I love myself. LOL


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: shroomyb00mb00m32]
    #18955436 - 10/09/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can relate...
Embrace the lunacy and crazy shit, it's more fun
I love myself too


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #18958769 - 10/10/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

indeed
thanks brother


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: shroomyb00mb00m32]
    #18958806 - 10/10/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Today I had a dream where anything i wanted was possible, i could do anything and create anything that I imagined. Then out of nowhere a million snakes all connected as one erupted from the ground. Then I realized that the reason I was able to do anything I wanted was because I was dead and interacting with the real world.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: underfliptown]
    #18958843 - 10/10/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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underfliptown said:
Today I had a dream where anything i wanted was possible, i could do anything and create anything that I imagined. Then out of nowhere a million snakes all connected as one erupted from the ground. Then I realized that the reason I was able to do anything I wanted was because I was dead and interacting with the real world.




well the willie wonka experience doesnt't make you feel so alive afterwards doesn't it :lol:
gotta love gene wilder.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: underfliptown]
    #18958873 - 10/10/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had an incredibly vivid dream where I was walking home during the outbreak of a zombie apocalypse.

Though they weren't so much zombies, but dirt covered humanoid monsters kind of like out of the Will Smith movie 'I am Legend' that camouflaged themselves in an abandoned train station. There was an eerie, ominous silence as I walked along the lonely tracks when they started peeking out of an old cargo freight and standing up out of the dirt amidst the overgrown flora surrounding it and started chasing me. I picked up a tree branch, ran for my life, turned around, hit one with the stick and ran to a house where my family was eating lunch and they had no idea what was going on outside.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: Into The Woods]
    #18959958 - 10/10/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just woke up from this one:

I hopped a train through the canadian wilderness. I ended up meeting up with a group of hikers and starrted hiking through some incredible cliffs. I had to jump off a cliff into the water at least 100 ft, it felt so real. Then i climbed a cliff waaaay too high and got stranded on a cliff with no way to get down. It was absolutely terrifying. I don't know why im having so many nightmares lately. Then I couldn't tell if i was dreaming or not and kept waking up in my bed. This was really scary. I was in what i thought was my house but it kept changing and i kept getting trapped and lost and not knowing where I was or if i was dreaming or not. I was stuck inbetween being awake and dreaming. External stimuli from reality (like my actual house not my dream, i mean the noises around my house were influencing my dream) were making their way into their dream and at one point I realized I was dreaming.

From here I was able to start flying on command. I believe this is what people call lucid dreaming. It was quite an experience, that is until i ended up stuck in the house again being stabbed with syringes filled with blood by junkies.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: Into The Woods]
    #18959981 - 10/10/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Into The Woods said:
I had an incredibly vivid dream where I was walking home during the outbreak of a zombie apocalypse.

Though they weren't so much zombies, but dirt covered humanoid monsters kind of like out of the Will Smith movie 'I am Legend' that camouflaged themselves in an abandoned train station. There was an eerie, ominous silence as I walked along the lonely tracks when they started peeking out of an old cargo freight and standing up out of the dirt amidst the overgrown flora surrounding it and started chasing me. I picked up a tree branch, ran for my life, turned around, hit one with the stick and ran to a house where my family was eating lunch and they had no idea what was going on outside.




Dude, zombie drems are seriously some of the most intense dreams I ever have had. If i could record my zombie dreams I would have some of the best movies ever come out of my head.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: underfliptown]
    #18960186 - 10/10/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I wish I still had dreams.

I'm sure I do, but I'm always smoking cannabis (or various concentrates) throughout the day and always an hour or two before bed so I think I just no longer remember my dreams.

I tried some vitamin supplement that was being promoted on the Joe Rogan Experience called Alpha Brain, and it has some shit in it (mainly acetylcholine and melatonin) which made me have some CRAZY and straight up bizarre dreams for the first couple days I took it (I read about this effect online & would therefore take a couple before bed), but after a few days this effect went away and it was back to not being able to remember my dreams at all.

Its a bummer


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: chutney]
    #18960257 - 10/10/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude thats how i usually am thats why i have been so surprised that I have been dreaming so vividly lately. Shits nuts. I also have experience with melatonin, dreams get weird as fuck with that shit.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: underfliptown]
    #18960335 - 10/10/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hell yeah, melatonin is pretty crazy. I would check out acetylcholine as well, I think it induces dreaming even more effectively than melatonin or at least it seemed to in my opinion... there is also some shit called Alpha GPC which is supposed to be a better source of acetylcholine and has a better bioavailability so that you can process it more effectively. Better yet, take it on top of melatonin for added punch

However I find that when I take these vitamin supplements for like 3-5 days in a row, I get tolerant to them and simply go back to not dreaming (or more likely, not remembering them upon waking)... and taking more does not seem to revitalize that effect.

There's been a couple times in my life when I've taken tolerance breaks from cannabis for a month or a few months, and one of the first things that I noticed which really floored me after a few days sober was how vivid and intense my dreams were... I've had a lifelong dedication and affinity to cannabis, and I've been smoking for 11 years straight now on a daily basis (only taking a couple tolerance breaks in that whole time, like I mentioned) and I had forgotten what an amazing phenomenon and experience dreams are. Really sucks that cannabis interferes with your ability to remember dreams; they're slippery enough and it's difficult enough to recall them a few hours later even when you're NOT smoking cannabis on the reg... throw daily cannabis use into the mix, and for me personally, I have zero recollection of dreams. I've probably had less than a dozen dreams which I was able to recall with any reasonable amount of detail in the past 11 years that I've been smoking cannabis.

I would check this stuff out if you're getting into dreams though man:

https://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/

It's expensive as fuck and I tried it totally expecting it to not do jack shit for my dreams, and I was floored... I was having the most bizarre dreams and could recall them with great detail upon waking (though still far from being a "lucid" dream which I could control and direct) when I took two capsules an hour or two before bed. There is also some shit called galantamine which is supposed to induce dreaming and is available over the counter as a nutrional/vitamin supplement and I believe there is actual documented research about galantamines effects on dreaming.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: chutney]
    #18960417 - 10/10/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Troll thread? Can't really tell.....

:yogabunny:


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: chutney]
    #18960436 - 10/10/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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and one of the first things that I noticed which really floored me after a few days sober was how vivid and intense my dreams were...




I couldn't agree more! my theory is that you either don't remember your dreams or that you waste all your dreaming being stoned.

When I lucid dreamed today it was weird, it took me going to sleep and waking up several times (in my dream i mean) until i finally realized that what was happening couldn't be real and that I must be dreaming. It felt so fucking real though at first but after a while and some impossible phenomenon occuring (my room shrank until it crushed me) I realized that I was just dreaming.

Another thing that tipped me off that I was dreaming was an occurance in another dream last night. I was doing cocaine (which is weird cause I barely do cocaine) in some warehouse that was a house on the inside (lol dreams and their lack of fucking sense) and we hid the plate with the blow under a bed we were doing lines on. Then the cops came in and looked and found the plate. I knew I was fucked and then i realized, this isn't real im not actually fucked. From there I sort of realized that I was just dreaming, but it didn't get quite lucid. I find extreme situations make me realize that I am dreaming in a dream. Once you realize that you are free to do whatever you want.

As for the supplements, i don't think its really necessary. I used to take melatonin to get to bed and it really fucked with my sleep schedule so i think im gonna avoid it at this point.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18960549 - 10/10/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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KingKnowledge said:
Troll thread? Can't really tell.....






thats what i was thinkingg


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: underfliptown]
    #18961027 - 10/10/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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From there I sort of realized that I was just dreaming, but it didn't get quite lucid. I find extreme situations make me realize that I am dreaming in a dream. Once you realize that you are free to do whatever you want.





Wow thats nuts.

Do you think its really like that as a rule though? Doesn't seem likely to me. And how on earth does one go about trying to realize that they are dreaming? A couple years ago I went through a 4 month period of sobriety where I was dreaming on the reg, but I would still only remember maybe 2-3 dreams a week or so... and pretty much every time I woke up it was slipping like sand right through my fingers and quickly. Within the hour I forgot most of them, but there were some that I remembered for a short period of time. And for a while I was super into taking vitamins and meditating right before bed with the intention of dreaming kicking around up there to try to will myself to dream more and try to direct my dreams but it was pretty much to no effect.

I did notice for the first several days I would try some of those supplements that I would have extremely bizarre dreams... seemed to fuck with the content of my dreams in some weird way, which I thought was very strange but very interesting, but obviously thats kind of a hard thing to claim and could I guess be some placebo thing but I'm not the type whose prone that kind of thing.

But I think if lucid dreaming is real, that's one of the craziest things ever. I'm very skeptical though and most people are probably just the type to have a regular dream that really stands out for them for whatever reason and just exaggerate the hell out of the details. Wonder if there is a way you could go about actually proving lucid dreaming somewhat scientifically...


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: chutney]
    #18961116 - 10/10/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you think its really like that as a rule though? Doesn't seem likely to me. And how on earth does one go about trying to realize that they are dreaming? A couple years ago I went through a 4 month period of sobriety where I was dreaming on the reg, but I would still only remember maybe 2-3 dreams a week or so... and pretty much every time I woke up it was slipping like sand right through my fingers and quickly. Within the hour I forgot most of them, but there were some that I remembered for a short period of time. And for a while I was super into taking vitamins and meditating right before bed with the intention of dreaming kicking around up there to try to will myself to dream more and try to direct my dreams but it was pretty much to no effect.




I think one realizes that they are dreaming when they start no notice patterns in their dreams. Today I had the pleasure of dreaming twice. The first time was the dream with the police, and i made a note of that dream. It was almost lucid but not quite. The next dream was teh one where I got to fly, and this is because there was another extreme situation. I think that since I made a note of the original extreme situation (the cops busting me) I was able to know when it happened again that something was aloof. As soon as i questioned whether what i was experiencing was real or not, i simply challeneged it and tried to fly. When it worked I knew I was in control of the situation. But it only lasted a few seconds (unless I am remembering wrong) and then i was simply thrust into another more interesting dream which i then forgot I was in control of.

I may have no longer been in control of the dream but being thrust into another dream through the help of lucidity leads to a much more vivid dream than is possible otherwise, in my opinion. What i mean by this is that even though I only got to fly under my command for a few seconds, the following minutes of dream were some of the most vivid, albeit uncontrolled, dreams I have ever had. I think then that it is key to keep record of your dreams, because you notebook (or laptop, or napkin lol) will not forget what your brain inevitably will. And once you remember your dreams patterns you can start to recognize them when you are dreaming.

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I did notice for the first several days I would try some of those supplements that I would have extremely bizarre dreams... seemed to fuck with the content of my dreams in some weird way, which I thought was very strange but very interesting, but obviously thats kind of a hard thing to claim and could I guess be some placebo thing but I'm not the type whose prone that kind of thing.




Thats not weird at all man, I bet it was the melatonin. I have talked to several people who have claimed to be subject to bizarre dreams when taking melatonin. I used to take like 21mg just to see what would happen. It was an unnecessary amount as 6mg would likely suffice. But when i first started experimenting I would take about 6mg and then have very strange dreams. It seems there is some consensus on this matter.

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But I think if lucid dreaming is real, that's one of the craziest things ever. I'm very skeptical though and most people are probably just the type to have a regular dream that really stands out for them for whatever reason and just exaggerate the hell out of the details. Wonder if there is a way you could go about actually proving lucid dreaming somewhat scientifically...




Even after my experience today I am still quite skeptical. I was only aware of the fact I was dreaming for a few seconds like I said. What this makes me think is that it takes practice to become adept at lucid dreaming. If you can learn to notice the patterns of your dreams then you can get those "ahha" moments where you are in control. How long you are in control, however, is a matter of practice. I say all this as if its true, but of course its just a theory based on incomplete data. I am going to keep experimenting with it by writing down my dreams and hope that it keeps working. Otherwise it was just a day of interesting dreams.


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: underfliptown]
    #18979661 - 10/15/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know how where many fellow associate stoners have bad memory.

I believe memory is something you largely exorcise. I had actually found memory to be more accessible when I'm high on marijuana since my mind slows down enough to focus.

@ the melatonin, I wouldn't mess with that stuff. I understand needing sleeping aids, I have tried it a couple of times and found it too strong for me. A nice doobie to the face does more wonders for me personally.

Besides dreams are the true power of our subconscious imagination that we have no control over. According to many spiritual traditions they say it's the collective realm of spirits if u bleive such a thing...


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: shroomyb00mb00m32]
    #18979691 - 10/15/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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shroomyb00mb00m32 said:
I don't know how where many fellow associate stoners have bad memory.

I believe memory is something you largely exorcise. I had actually found memory to be more accessible when I'm high on marijuana since my mind slows down enough to focus.

@ the melatonin, I wouldn't mess with that stuff. I understand needing sleeping aids, I have tried it a couple of times and found it too strong for me. A nice doobie to the face does more wonders for me personally.

Besides dreams are the true power of our subconscious imagination that we have no control over. According to many spiritual traditions they say it's the collective realm of spirits if u bleive such a thing...




I definitely believe in such a thing!


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Re: UR OWN F#CK!NG HEAD [Re: underfliptown]
    #18979799 - 10/15/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

my dreams have always been a little crazy as long as i could remember.

I had many times where I dream things of certain events that WOULD happen in deja-vu's in real life somehow interwoven in the craziness of the dreams. It doesn't have to be significant, just a certain element of the dream might somehow manifest itself back into the real world.

Also many [personal] revelations have came to me in dreams. Whether directly or indirectly thru a obscure story-like line unfolded. That's why I do say the subconscious, the thoughts we aren't able to fluidly control are the most powerful. It's like an outside watch of ideas and thoughts YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER and you are merely observing even if it involves you in the dream (a 3rd person perspective with a 1 person point of view)
That could be spirits speaking to us in ways we cannot understand fully in our waking life.
For life is as mysterious as the imagination.


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