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ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland
    #18979504 - 10/15/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Came across these guys on a bike trail 40mins west of Portland. At a quick glance, they almost had me fooled...but a closer inspection brought me back down to earth.
Sorry, no spore print...didn't bring any home with me. Looking at the gills, spores seem to be pale brown. Habitat was well shaded bike trail amongst wood chips and coniferous mulch. Stem was also a very pale brown, no noticeable bluing after handling.

Not sure if this is enough info for a proper ID, but open to an educated guess. Thanks all.











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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: visualfx]
    #18979513 - 10/15/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ouch. Those appear to be Galerina. Good thing you were paying attention.


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: canid]
    #18979517 - 10/15/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lucky me! Thanks canid


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: visualfx]
    #18979546 - 10/15/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ouch. Those appear to be Galerina. Good thing you were paying attention.



Definitely, that blackening stem in the 3rd pic is a dead giveaway.
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Lucky me! Thanks canid




I'd say observant you! but either way good job. Those caps probably had you excited for a minute though, huh?


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: visualfx]
    #18979560 - 10/15/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Lucky me! Thanks canid




You are a smart hunter!:thumbup:  A shining example for all who so badly want to believe every mushroom must be psychedelic and must be eaten immediately so as to trip.  Way to buck the trend.

I will give you +5 for being smart.
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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: ambc]
    #18979562 - 10/15/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I come across these often, I usually look for the white ring to determine that they aren't what I am looking for "cy's"


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: harvey253]
    #18979567 - 10/15/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Don't let that be all you go on, but this is handy, for several reasonably similar species common in P. cyanescens habitat have this feature some times.

Of course they often do not.


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: canid]
    #18979576 - 10/15/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Don't let that be all you go on, but this is handy, for several reasonably similar species common in P. cyanescens habitat have this feature some times.

Of course they often do not.




Also the stem isn't as white as a cy, and is often softer and somewhat slightly hollowed inside.

I've yet to put a bad shroom in my bag, but just in case I usually go through them and make sure they are blueing and their stems are as tough as soft wood


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: thetonebone72]
    #18980619 - 10/15/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You are a smart hunter!:thumbup:  A shining example for all who so badly want to believe every mushroom must be psychedelic and must be eaten immediately so as to trip.  Way to buck the trend.

I will give you +5 for being smart.
:zappa:




Thanks for the kind words. I've never received so much recognition for doing so little :wink:
It's definitely a worry to think some would be so eager that they gloss over some obvious, yet potentially life saving details.


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: ambc]
    #18980626 - 10/15/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd say observant you! but either way good job. Those caps probably had you excited for a minute though, huh?




damn straight!


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: visualfx]
    #18980659 - 10/15/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

G. marginata.  You can see how someone could get confused.  Scary stuff.


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: jet li]
    #18980767 - 10/15/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

None have a ring that I can see and all have white marginal velar remnants, so I think these are a Tubaria.


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Re: ID request - suspected non-active look-alikes west of portland [Re: Joie]
    #18983103 - 10/15/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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None have a ring that I can see



This feature is not uncommonly absent in members of this complex. This is one of the reasons it was thought to represent several distinct species.

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and all have white marginal velar remnants



This is the compelling one here, and It's very pronounced. I think you are right.

The marked stem darkening in the one specimen is interesting. Do you think this represents a mixed collection/observation?


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