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Mites in oyster gills?
    #18979467 - 10/15/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The gills of my outdoor Pearl Oyster mushrooms are crawling with these tiny bug that look like mites. Are they eating the spores? A bunch of them jump out of the gills when the mushroom is disturbed...

Not sure what they are... I wonder if they will run away with a spray of diluted garlic fungicide up under the gills?


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: loggrower]
    #18980359 - 10/15/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i had bad earwhigs...without pics...


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: drake89]
    #18980460 - 10/15/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They are likely the same one I see around here on wild oysters all the time.  I never see them on anything else but and i'm not sure what they're attracted too but they are black.  I got them on my outdoor oysters as well and will use a bug screen next year to protect them :smile:


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18984689 - 10/16/13 02:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These bugs don't appear to be doing any damage, and are as small as fleas or head lice...

I don't think my old Nikon D100 can even pick them up at full zoom!


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: loggrower]
    #18984792 - 10/16/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Correct, they're spore eaters and do no damage.  Simply tap the gills on a piece of wood or similar when you harvest and they drop right out.

Don't do anything to hurt them-they're helping to spread your patch.
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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18984851 - 10/16/13 05:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Meh... Wish it was easy as that... I have not had any success in managing to get them all out without damaging the mushrooms.

Going to mess around with the garlic spray, and if that doesn't work... Perhaps CO2 or Propane fumigation of picked mushrooms or something?


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: loggrower]
    #18985011 - 10/16/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You'll screw up the mushroom taste with garlic. Besides, you'll never get the garlic spray to penetrate the gills to where the mites are. The insects themselves are harmless. I've tapped them out of my outdoor shiitake beds for years. 

Of course, oysters are fragile and break easier, but then again it's one of the reasons I don't grow them, another being no shelf life, yet another being people pass over all the broken ones at the grocery store, leaving them to dry out.  A third good reason to avoid oysters is the damned spores will make you sick as hell after a few years of exposure.
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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18985079 - 10/16/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You'll screw up the mushroom taste with garlic. Besides, you'll never get the garlic spray to penetrate the gills to where the mites are. The insects themselves are harmless. I've tapped them out of my outdoor shiitake beds for years. 

Of course, oysters are fragile and break easier, but then again it's one of the reasons I don't grow them, another being no shelf life, yet another being people pass over all the broken ones at the grocery store, leaving them to dry out.  A third good reason to avoid oysters is the damned spores will make you sick as hell after a few years of exposure.
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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: Aleon]
    #18985965 - 10/16/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

will proper ventilation not prevent any future sickness from oyster spores?  What do long time growers of them do?


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18986092 - 10/16/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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will proper ventilation not prevent any future sickness from oyster spores?  What do long time growers of them do?




Generally people wear masks.  Couple that with harvesting early and cold temps it can become manageable.


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: Aleon]
    #18987641 - 10/16/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

From the sounds of it you are feeling the effects Aleon?  Do you wear masks and what do you fruit your oysters at?  I am in hte area of 65 and have been picking early, I just hope early enough.  I have yet to see any white residue on anything.


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18988958 - 10/16/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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From the sounds of it you are feeling the effects Aleon?  Do you wear masks and what do you fruit your oysters at?  I am in hte area of 65 and have been picking early, I just hope early enough.  I have yet to see any white residue on anything.



Yeah I don't see what the fuss is about.  If you've got your shit together, you've got to harvest twice daily.  You want to get them as babies so they will last a couple days in the fridge, and still look sellable.  No spores that way.  When you let them get huge then yes, you can see the spores drop.  Any chef worth their salt will not buy huge overgrown oysters.


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: drake89]
    #18989492 - 10/17/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Er, can we get back on topic... Does anyone know of any good solutions to getting these spore eating bugs out of the mushrooms than banging them on something?


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: loggrower]
    #18989891 - 10/17/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Your in the land of off topicness :P I'd have to say in the future just use bug netting.  That is my plan.  If they are jut for you try blowing them out?.  I've noticed too if we are talking the same bugs which we may not but when i stick them in a closed container and into the fridge all the bugs on my outdoor oysters crawl out of the oysters trying to escape for their lives.


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18990034 - 10/17/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i think the best solution is to fry the bugs together with the oystermushrooms and just eat them.... hmmm... protein...


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: forrest]
    #18991185 - 10/17/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Gotta love the crunch!


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #18993942 - 10/18/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

LoL... You guys!

I got an email back from fungi perfecti. They recommend Diatomaceous Earth as it works for a lot of their customers. Also, I will move my oyster logs away from the forest to a new location.


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Re: Mites in oyster gills? [Re: loggrower]
    #18994496 - 10/18/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I had in mind to mention that lol My mind was sidetracked by thought of delicious gourmet bugs :P  Anyways i've had in mind to use this at home for my indoor grows lately just as a precaution so please do share how it works :smile: Best of luck in your endeavors.


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