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Being a Psychologist
    #18977603 - 10/14/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm seriously considering working toward a doctorate in Psychology. Any information on pay rate, college studies, positives and negatives Etc...  would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: PapaSmurf44]
    #18977666 - 10/14/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd rather act like a psychologist in some TV show or movie.  Way easier and pays more.  :boring:


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: Hobozen] * 2
    #18977967 - 10/14/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And you do less harm. :thumbup:


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: Icelander]
    #18977988 - 10/14/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Let the suckers do the dirty work.  Those who know what's going on live life to live, not work.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: PapaSmurf44]
    #18978958 - 10/14/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Look into a Psy.D. if you think you want to focus primarily on clinical work, but you'll want a Ph.D if you want to research and teach. Consider the fact that you also need to be a businessman with either of these credentials. I am a piss-poor businessman, so I worked for a huge school system in a choice position for 27 years, and had a part-time private practice on the side (stlll do). A college friend moved and trained in California and did very well, he said recently when we reconnected after 30+ years, and became a radio-personality psychologist, with several employees in his practice. But like everything else, his family had money so they set him up nicely. If I'd have married the beautiful but slutty ex-girlfriend of a friend back home, I could've gone into her brother's psychology practice. Her dad was our veterinarian when I was a kid. But, I made another marriage mistake instead, which ill-efected my professional life. :shrug: No matter. Life is more than social role, more than occupation. Psychology has to work closely with managed care, with psychiatrists at times, and with lawyers. :puke: You have to give the appearance of respectability, but you actually must be ethical for the good of your charges, and to avoid being sued and arrested. Studies in Consciousness, psychedelics, and condoning of substance use is seriously frowned upon, generally speaking.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18978980 - 10/14/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've always wanted to study psychology but I'd be shit for a psychologist. Need to figure out a new plan, I guess.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18979219 - 10/14/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm interested in psychology and thought about being a psychologist but it looks like it's a pretty shit job for me with lots of skills required that I don't really have.

Go do some science, I'm sure you can find something. Get a nice job. Get a nice girl. Go live in an awesome area with lots of nature and natural beauty while still being close to the city. Consider that you may live forever since science and medicine are edging their way to immortality.

Good times ahead.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18979374 - 10/14/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
Look into a Psy.D. if you think you want to focus primarily on clinical work, but you'll want a Ph.D if you want to research and teach. Consider the fact that you also need to be a businessman with either of these credentials. I am a piss-poor businessman, so I worked for a huge school system in a choice position for 27 years, and had a part-time private practice on the side (stlll do). A college friend moved and trained in California and did very well, he said recently when we reconnected after 30+ years, and became a radio-personality psychologist, with several employees in his practice. But like everything else, his family had money so they set him up nicely. If I'd have married the beautiful but slutty ex-girlfriend of a friend back home, I could've gone into her brother's psychology practice. Her dad was our veterinarian when I was a kid. But, I made another marriage mistake instead, which ill-efected my professional life. :shrug: No matter. Life is more than social role, more than occupation. Psychology has to work closely with managed care, with psychiatrists at times, and with lawyers. :puke: You have to give the appearance of respectability, but you actually must be ethical for the good of your charges, and to avoid being sued and arrested. Studies in Consciousness, psychedelics, and condoning of substance use is seriously frowned upon, generally speaking.




Working as a receptionist for a psychologist's private practice was my first job as a 18yo kid, seemed like billing and insurance companies was one of the bigger hassles.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: circastes]
    #18980167 - 10/15/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm interested in psychology and thought about being a psychologist

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:whoa::whoa::whoa::whoa::whoa::whoa:

I'm never seen my general feelings about the type of personality that goes into psychology verified in such a dramatic manner. :feelsweirdman::feelsweirdman:


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: Icelander]
    #18981250 - 10/15/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just because I think we're all God in disguise, that we are eternal manifestations of It, that there is a broader, deeper, more magical way to apprehend our universe and many different levels of it in and outside the body, doesn't mean I can't heal a motherfucker.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: circastes]
    #18981320 - 10/15/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What's the first thing you would think/do if someone was hearing voices claiming that they are some type of spirit/astral/energy Beings?  If someone reported being attacked and tortured by Demons?  If one was complaining of astral parasites that sap the life from his body?


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18981451 - 10/15/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Involuntary commitment.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18981664 - 10/15/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

Will you explain how that is a solution?


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: PapaSmurf44]
    #18981691 - 10/15/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My uncle became a doctor 8 years ago and he went to Harvard and got through his courses in under 3 years. Apparently he studied every day for atleast  3 hours a day, and when he wasn't studying he was consulting world famous psychiatrists to discover their secrets which helped earn them the reputation of a "qualified" doctor. I remember he informed me that the number of people trying to become doctors nowadays has significantly increased in the last few years, and that to get it is nearly impossible without you wanting to kill yourself.

What I would do if I was in your shoes would be to take a different route, a route that would deviate from the ordinary means of attaining the title of doctor. You can be just as knowledgeable in medicine without ever having gone to college, I know this through experience for before my uncle became a doctor he cured a number of people, and the thing is, he cured them free of cost, out of the goodness of his heart, just because he was such a genuinely warm & affectionate person whom you'd always want around.

I think you can become a doctor without ever having gone to school, just read many books on natural cures and you should become well adapted to the field, and if you are particularly apt for undergoing long periods of studying without much strain on yourself, you will find that its alot easier than some people might like you to believe for I know that the government has brainwashed many people into assuming that because you have an "official" title that you are in some ways more apt to helping people. I don't want to sound like a quack, or a charlatan for that matter(though I am getting the feeling that I am starting to sound that way with some of my radical notions, but hey, think for yourself, right?).

My cousin had the flu and they thought he wouldn't make it through the night three years ago, and my uncle, without having any prior experience as a doctor was somehow, someway, seemingly miraculously, was able to cure him before he died. That was when a world famous doctor called him and said that he would ensure that he was sent to the most prestige medical academy of the ages, for the doctor knew many people at the top of the "medical" ladder, and, indeed, seemed to be able to sometimes turn someone into a real doctor overnight.

I'm telling you there is something wrong with the notion that you must endure 4 years of schooling, that means going to class everyday and getting up early, and just doing things you really don't truly want to do, but then, I have something against the entire system altogether. The way it operates is idiotic, it seems to me.
I've seen brilliant people that dropped out of college who go on to become rocket scientists, and then the people whom passed college try to match their wits against them and guess what? The scientist always comes out on top for they saw through the system and were able to "beat" it.

The only way to "beat" the system is to acknowledge its flaws and try to find a loophole around having to go through the mechanical processes others are all so used to by now. Indeed, you can learn much more in a library than you can in a college classroom, and myself, being a self taught person, with literary aspirations and over 6 best sellers which are on the market right now, and having a following of over half of America, and nearly 1/3 of Europe, so I can say without any signs of hesitancy, and if I did hesitate it would be only to acknowledge that my hesitation sprung up because of something apart from myself which I couldn't be blamed for, can say that you are better off finding some very obscure novels and learning from the masters.

I'm trying to find a way that will enable me to earn a living without relying on college, since I find it a big stupid sham for the corporate hogs to steal the money from the working class people. but you all probably already know this, but since we can't do anything we just go along with it all >.<


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: circastes] * 1
    #18981813 - 10/15/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Just because I think we're all God in disguise, that we are eternal manifestations of It, that there is a broader, deeper, more magical way to apprehend our universe and many different levels of it in and outside the body, doesn't mean I can't heal a motherfucker.




Certainly doesn't mean you can.  Hell your posts are hardly indicative of good mental health imo.  Not to mention you have certified mental health issues and rely on meds. Seems modern medicine considers most humans are in need of pharmaceuticals. The blind leading the blind imo. 


Edited by Icelander (10/15/13 03:30 PM)


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: drkkenny]
    #18981842 - 10/15/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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and over 6 best sellers which are on the market right now, and having a following of over half of America, and nearly 1/3 of Europe




What are the titles if you don't mind?


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18982010 - 10/15/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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:lol:

Will you explain how that is a solution?



It gets a dangerous nutcase off the streets


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: Icelander]
    #18982014 - 10/15/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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circastes said:
Just because I think we're all God in disguise, that we are eternal manifestations of It, that there is a broader, deeper, more magical way to apprehend our universe and many different levels of it in and outside the body, doesn't mean I can't heal a motherfucker.




Certainly doesn't mean you can.  Hell your posts are hardly indicative of good mental health imo.  Not to mention you have certified mental health issues and rely on meds. Seems modern medicine considers most humans are in need of pharmaceuticals. The blind leading the blind imo. 



I guess all I can say is I came off one of the meds and I feel a lot better.


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18982033 - 10/15/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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FishOilTheKid said:
:lol:

Will you explain how that is a solution?



It gets a dangerous nutcase off the streets




What about the healing aspect?:confused:


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Re: Being a Psychologist [Re: drkkenny]
    #18982262 - 10/15/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can be just as knowledgeable in medicine without ever having gone to college
Indeed, you can learn much more in a library than you can in a college classroom

Uhh...No.

before my uncle became a doctor he cured a number of people, and the thing is, he cured them free of cost, out of the goodness of his heart, just because he was such a genuinely warm & affectionate person

Who, if he managed to cure someone with medicines, without being the possessor of a DEA license to prescribe, is a felon, whose nephew just outed him. :lol: As far as doing pro bono work, that is something every professional does, but since undergraduate school and medical school has a tendency to run up big bills, even with scholarships, one cannot practice for free in this country. You do not pay a fee for a professional's caring, you pay for the time, which is valuable.

myself, being a self taught person, with literary aspirations and over 6 best sellers which are on the market right now, and having a following of over half of America, and nearly 1/3 of Europe
Really now?! I'm impressed! :bow2:  I wonder who you could possibly be with "6 best sellers," and yet you have the time AND inclination to seek out this forum on The Shroomery. :eek:


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