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LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland
#18977153 - 10/14/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.marylandhealthconnection.gov/internet-policies-fraud
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Any information that you provide to us in your application will be used only to carry out the functions of Maryland Health Connection. The only exception to this policy is that we may share information provided in your application with the appropriate authorities for law enforcement and audit activities.
Don't forget that the IRS is charged with enforcing this crap sandwich. Why the fuck any drug users would ever want the government to get their hands on their medical records, and they will, is a mystery to me.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: zappaisgod]
#18977237 - 10/14/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So what?.. They could see your records already anyway.
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In the United States, most patients believe that Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) laws keep our medical records private, shared only among our doctors, ourselves and maybe a loved one or caregiver. But those who believe that are wrong! In fact, there are dozens of individuals and organizations that are legally allowed to access our medical records for a variety of reasons, either by request or by purchase. In some cases, we provide permission for their access. In others, permission isn't necessary. In still other cases, we provide permission without even realizing we've done so.
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The government may have a right to your medical records. As cited above, any government agency that pays for any part of your healthcare needs may have legal access to your personal records. But other government agencies may have access, too. If you have been involved in any law enforcement activities as a perpetrator or a victim, your individual records may be requested if they affect any legal actions. If you've been in a workplace accident, the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration may get involved. If your care of your children is questioned, the local child protective services may want to see your child's medical records.
http://patients.about.com/od/yourmedicalrecords/a/Who-Has-Access-To-Your-Medical-Records.htm
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: psilynut]
#18977473 - 10/14/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your link
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Who Has Legal Access to Your Individual, Personal Medical Records?
Your loved one or caregiver may have the right to get copies of your medical records, too, but you may have to provide written permission.
Your providers have a right to see and share your records with anyone else to whom you've granted permission.
Your payers have a right to get copies and use your medical records as specified in HIPAA laws. Insurance companies, Medicare, Medicaid, workers compensation, Social Security disability, Department of Veterans Affairs - any entity that pays for any portion of your healthcare needs may review your records. This may also include your employer if your employer helps fund your medical care. (see more about employer access below.)
he government may have a right to your medical records. As cited above, any government agency that pays for any part of your healthcare needs may have legal access to your personal records. But other government agencies may have access, too. If you have been involved in any law enforcement activities as a perpetrator or a victim, your individual records may be requested if they affect any legal actions. If you've been in a workplace accident, the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration may get involved. If your care of your children is questioned, the local child protective services may want to see your child's medical records.
Your employer may have access to some of your personal medical records, but that access is somewhat of a gray area. In most cases, you will have granted them permission, even if you don't realize it.
This is far beyond any of that and I got an idea. Pay for your own shit and you won't have to deal with this. Once you accept bummmitude you get treated like a bum. Because you are. Bums do not deserve privacy. This is why I demand drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: zappaisgod]
#18978274 - 10/14/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Your link
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Who Has Legal Access to Your Individual, Personal Medical Records?
Your loved one or caregiver may have the right to get copies of your medical records, too, but you may have to provide written permission.
Your providers have a right to see and share your records with anyone else to whom you've granted permission.
Your payers have a right to get copies and use your medical records as specified in HIPAA laws. Insurance companies, Medicare, Medicaid, workers compensation, Social Security disability, Department of Veterans Affairs - any entity that pays for any portion of your healthcare needs may review your records. This may also include your employer if your employer helps fund your medical care. (see more about employer access below.)
he government may have a right to your medical records. As cited above, any government agency that pays for any part of your healthcare needs may have legal access to your personal records. But other government agencies may have access, too. If you have been involved in any law enforcement activities as a perpetrator or a victim, your individual records may be requested if they affect any legal actions. If you've been in a workplace accident, the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration may get involved. If your care of your children is questioned, the local child protective services may want to see your child's medical records.
Your employer may have access to some of your personal medical records, but that access is somewhat of a gray area. In most cases, you will have granted them permission, even if you don't realize it.
This is far beyond any of that and I got an idea. Pay for your own shit and you won't have to deal with this. Once you accept bummmitude you get treated like a bum. Because you are. Bums do not deserve privacy. This is why I demand drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients.
Yeah, hate on people for being poor, that makes sense...
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Yogi1]
#18978287 - 10/14/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yogi1 said:
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zappaisgod said: Your link
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Who Has Legal Access to Your Individual, Personal Medical Records?
Your loved one or caregiver may have the right to get copies of your medical records, too, but you may have to provide written permission.
Your providers have a right to see and share your records with anyone else to whom you've granted permission.
Your payers have a right to get copies and use your medical records as specified in HIPAA laws. Insurance companies, Medicare, Medicaid, workers compensation, Social Security disability, Department of Veterans Affairs - any entity that pays for any portion of your healthcare needs may review your records. This may also include your employer if your employer helps fund your medical care. (see more about employer access below.)
he government may have a right to your medical records. As cited above, any government agency that pays for any part of your healthcare needs may have legal access to your personal records. But other government agencies may have access, too. If you have been involved in any law enforcement activities as a perpetrator or a victim, your individual records may be requested if they affect any legal actions. If you've been in a workplace accident, the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration may get involved. If your care of your children is questioned, the local child protective services may want to see your child's medical records.
Your employer may have access to some of your personal medical records, but that access is somewhat of a gray area. In most cases, you will have granted them permission, even if you don't realize it.
This is far beyond any of that and I got an idea. Pay for your own shit and you won't have to deal with this. Once you accept bummmitude you get treated like a bum. Because you are. Bums do not deserve privacy. This is why I demand drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients.
Yeah, hate on people for being poor, that makes sense... 
I don't hate them. I just don't want to be forced to support them if they refuse to stay clean and work.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: zappaisgod]
#18978333 - 10/14/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Yogi1 said:
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zappaisgod said: Your link
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Who Has Legal Access to Your Individual, Personal Medical Records?
Your loved one or caregiver may have the right to get copies of your medical records, too, but you may have to provide written permission.
Your providers have a right to see and share your records with anyone else to whom you've granted permission.
Your payers have a right to get copies and use your medical records as specified in HIPAA laws. Insurance companies, Medicare, Medicaid, workers compensation, Social Security disability, Department of Veterans Affairs - any entity that pays for any portion of your healthcare needs may review your records. This may also include your employer if your employer helps fund your medical care. (see more about employer access below.)
he government may have a right to your medical records. As cited above, any government agency that pays for any part of your healthcare needs may have legal access to your personal records. But other government agencies may have access, too. If you have been involved in any law enforcement activities as a perpetrator or a victim, your individual records may be requested if they affect any legal actions. If you've been in a workplace accident, the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration may get involved. If your care of your children is questioned, the local child protective services may want to see your child's medical records.
Your employer may have access to some of your personal medical records, but that access is somewhat of a gray area. In most cases, you will have granted them permission, even if you don't realize it.
This is far beyond any of that and I got an idea. Pay for your own shit and you won't have to deal with this. Once you accept bummmitude you get treated like a bum. Because you are. Bums do not deserve privacy. This is why I demand drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients.
Yeah, hate on people for being poor, that makes sense... 
I don't hate them. I just don't want to be forced to support them if they refuse to stay clean and work.
What support would be my question? This isnt universal healthcare, its a cluster fuck law to force people to buy insurance from private companies.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Yogi1]
#18978360 - 10/14/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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With enormous subsidies from taxpayers. Try to keep up.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: zappaisgod]
#18978376 - 10/14/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: With enormous subsidies from taxpayers. Try to keep up.
This is the issue that pisses you off? There are about 100 worse things we've pissed money away over since bush and obama...
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Yogi1]
#18978403 - 10/14/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: With enormous subsidies from taxpayers. Try to keep up.
This is the issue that pisses you off? There are about 100 worse things we've pissed money away over since bush and obama...
I agree. It is actually since FDR, the commie cunt, and LBJ, the commie cunt.
Now what part of "refuse to stay clean and work" are you going to address? Any of it? If you want taxpayer supplied benefits you should have to stay clean and perform work. Is that such an onerous burden? Taxpayers have to do it. Why shouldn't welfare bums?
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: zappaisgod]
#18978426 - 10/14/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: With enormous subsidies from taxpayers. Try to keep up.
This is the issue that pisses you off? There are about 100 worse things we've pissed money away over since bush and obama...
I agree. It is actually since FDR, the commie cunt, and LBJ, the commie cunt.
Now what part of "refuse to stay clean and work" are you going to address? Any of it? If you want taxpayer supplied benefits you should have to stay clean and perform work. Is that such an onerous burden? Taxpayers have to do it. Why shouldn't welfare bums?
I have nothing to say about that. Thats obvious.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: zappaisgod]
#18978434 - 10/14/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I bet Ike was a "commie cunt" too. And Kennedy. And Clinton. And Carter. And Ford. And Nixon. And Truman. And Bush Jr. And Pappy. Besides, Reagan, there has only been "commie cunts" for the last 80 years, right?

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welfare bums
You mean the corporations raking in billions in subsidies every year that they don't need?
Your disdain for the poor is sickening. It really shows a lot about you as a person that you can hate the poor with such intensity. I go to a lot of employment workshops and you find people that have been out of work for two+ years besides working odd jobs here and there, and they can't survive on that. Why aren't you "job creators" hiring people?
Let me guess your "taxes are too high." You might make so much money that you have to fucking pay taxes. Boo fucking hoo.
Give me fucking break.
I'd call you your signature line of being an "official comedy act," but you aren't funny, your vitriol is disgusting.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18978479 - 10/14/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is far beyond any of that and I got an idea. Pay for your own shit and you won't have to deal with this. Once you accept bummmitude you get treated like a bum. Because you are. Bums do not deserve privacy. This is why I demand drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients.
A website called gopusa told me there are 108,000,000 people on welfare , not including ss and medi. Drug tests can cost employers 25 to 75 . For the govt to do it probly like 80 to 125 , let's say 100. Thats 10,800,000,000 .Now let's say monthly tests. That's 129,600,000,000 a year . Ya that won't add to the debt at all totally reasonable . Another gottea site told me obamacare will cost the tax payer 1.8 t over a 9 year period. That's 200 b a year . If that's true it's almost the same amount of money as your shitty drug testing idea. I have an idea too , how about we don't do wat you say , raise taxes a little on rich people and use all that xtra money to pay for obamacare? Do you really think you could force enough people off of welfare through drugtesting to cover the cost of testing , and reduce the amount your spending over all? Drug tests can be easily faked , Don't feel bad , math ruins allot of my ideas too.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: psilynut]
#18978489 - 10/14/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dont try to talk sense...
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: psilynut]
#18978510 - 10/14/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html
2.6% of people in Fl in their drug testing pilot program were found to have failed the drug test. No account for the inevitable false positives that are produced by common household items, plus the retests... Cost the state an extra $45,780 (on top of what they were already paying without the tests) to test 4,086 candidates, of which only 108 failed.
So now instead of 4,086, we're going to be testing 100,000,000 with most likely similar rates of drug use? How much more debt do you want to rack up, Zap?
For being someone who loves small government, this is a big government solution. Typical righty bullshit with no basis in reality.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18978513 - 10/14/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: I bet Ike was a "commie cunt" too. And Kennedy. And Clinton. And Carter. And Ford. And Nixon. And Truman. And Bush Jr. And Pappy. Besides, Reagan, there has only been "commie cunts" for the last 80 years, right?

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You mean the corporations raking in billions in subsidies every year that they don't need?
I do not support any corporate preferences of any kind and that includes farm subsidiesQuote:
Your disdain for the poor is sickening. It really shows a lot about you as a person that you can hate the poor with such intensity. I go to a lot of employment workshops and you find people that have been out of work for two+ years besides working odd jobs here and there, and they can't survive on that. Why aren't you "job creators" hiring people?
Work for your benefits. How difficult is that? I don't hate the poor. I hate the handout demanding bums who won't work. You want food stamps? Put in ten hours a week working. Quote:
Let me guess your "taxes are too high." You might make so much money that you have to fucking pay taxes. Boo fucking hoo.
My taxes are outrageous and I have lost my health insurance as of the new year.Quote:
Give me fucking break.
Why should I give you a break? You are nobody to me except a panhandler who wants me to buy you stuff in return for nothing. Quote:
I'd call you your signature line of being an "official comedy act," but you aren't funny, your vitriol is disgusting.
Why do you think you should get something for nothing? Why should somebody with a gun force me to give you something? I have no reason to believe that you now or will ever be worth a shit. Tell me why, if you were talking to somebody one on one, why they should spend their time and money on you. Being alive is not an answer.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18978544 - 10/14/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Work for your benefits. How difficult is that? I don't hate the poor. I hate the handout demanding bums who won't work. You want food stamps? Put in ten hours a week working.
And what kind of work are you suggesting?
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My taxes are outrageous
Don't you live in New York, with ridiculous tax rates? Why don't you move to somewhere like Texas, Florida, Alaska, or South Dakota and forgo state income taxes to bring your tax rate down?
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and I have lost my health insurance as of the new year.
So get new health insurance.
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Why do you think you should get something for nothing?
What am I getting for nothing?
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: psilynut]
#18978574 - 10/14/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is far beyond any of that and I got an idea. Pay for your own shit and you won't have to deal with this. Once you accept bummmitude you get treated like a bum. Because you are. Bums do not deserve privacy. This is why I demand drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients.
A website called gopusa told me there are 108,000,000 people on welfare ,
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not including ss and medi.
SS and Medicare aren't welfare.Quote:
Drug tests can cost employers 25 to 75 . For the govt to do it probly like 80 to 125 , let's say 100.
Why does everything cost the government more when they should be able to get it wholesale? Wasn't that the entire rationale for Bumcare?Quote:
Thats 10,800,000,000 .Now let's say monthly tests. That's 129,600,000,000 a year .
Why would they have to be monthly?Quote:
Ya that won't add to the debt at all totally reasonable .
You don't really do math well, do you?Quote:
Another gottea site told me obamacare will cost the tax payer 1.8 t over a 9 year period. That's 200 b a year . If that's true it's almost the same amount of money as your shitty drug testing idea.
Uh no.Quote:
I have an idea too , how about we don't do wat you say , raise taxes a little on rich people and use all that xtra money to pay for obamacare?
Rich people are already getting fuckedQuote:
Do you really think you could force enough people off of welfare through drugtesting to cover the cost of testing , and reduce the amount your spending over all? Drug tests can be easily faked , Don't feel bad , math ruins a lot of my ideas too
Too bad you can't do it.
I don't want to force them off welfare through drug testing. I want them to stop getting high and get fucking jobs. You can get high all you want if you prove you can support yourself doing it. I note you made no mention of the work for benefits idea.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18978577 - 10/14/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html
2.6% of people in Fl in their drug testing pilot program were found to have failed the drug test. No account for the inevitable false positives that are produced by common household items, plus the retests... Cost the state an extra $45,780 (on top of what they were already paying without the tests) to test 4,086 candidates, of which only 108 failed.
So now instead of 4,086, we're going to be testing 100,000,000 with most likely similar rates of drug use? How much more debt do you want to rack up, Zap?
For being someone who loves small government, this is a big government solution. Typical righty bullshit with no basis in reality.

My small government solution is to leave it all up to private charity.
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: zappaisgod]
#18978620 - 10/14/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You want private charity to drug test people on welfare?
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Re: LEOs and Bumcare in Maryland [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18978630 - 10/14/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. I want them to pay the welfare. They can test or not.
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