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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: druranium]
#18912299 - 09/30/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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druranium said: Hey Frank, what are your thoughts on dunking the sub? I've had an uneven pinset from the beginning so I'm not sure which flush I'm on...could be 1-2-or 3 but I've had some nice results (for a MS noob ) since the heat wave passed. Harvested everything and will probably have 3 or 4 dried oz when the dehydrator is finished doing its thing.
The sub still looks and smells great and is producing condensation though not as much as the beginning (when it was dripping down the sides). It's been in fruiting conditions for 17 days, but I think it has some more life left in it.
My main question is what do I do with the liner when I dunk? Just leave it as it is? Get rid of it and put a fresh one in?
I recommend leaving the liner as is.
I don't "dunk" the tub, but if my substrate is particularly dry then I will do this:
Pull liner back on the sides, pour small pitcher of water around the until it comes up about halfway on the sub. Let this soak for 4 hours, then drain it by tilting the tub sideways carefully.
I usually don't do this any more, I prefer to just mist and fan once every couple of days after the first flush.
The liner can stay, I've never swapped a liner in my life
Great looking pics too.
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18935902 - 10/05/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, another dial-in question: The surface of my myc dries up before 1 flush, so I have to mist it. But still, I got aerial myc that "melts" away when I mist it.
Isn't aerial myc a sign of too little FAE? Still, the surface dries up to the point it doesn't glisten anymore.
How can this correlate and happen at the same time?
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
#18971334 - 10/13/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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well looks like ima start growing again
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
#18971528 - 10/13/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Ok, another dial-in question: The surface of my myc dries up before 1 flush, so I have to mist it. But still, I got aerial myc that "melts" away when I mist it.
Isn't aerial myc a sign of too little FAE? Still, the surface dries up to the point it doesn't glisten anymore.
How can this correlate and happen at the same time?
I've never had a tub dry out on the surface before the first flush. There is always little water drops on the surface all the way through the first flush
1. How big are the holes in your tub?
2.Do you have the bottom holes packed tightly with polyfill?
3. How deep is the substrate in your tub?
4. How long is your tub taking to colonize?
5. How long after full colonization before you see pins?
6. Are you keeping all the holes taped shut during colonization?
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spacechildo
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: Stromrider]
#18971583 - 10/13/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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1: 1 inch bottom holes, 1,5 inch top holes 2: as tight as I could, there is 1/4" dry rings around bottom holes. Stuff them tighter? 3: 3 inches 4: it took 7 days, ended up being 1,5 : 1 spawn:sub ratio 5: 3-4 days I think. Never noticed the knotting before I suddenly had 50 pins one morning. 6: taped with duct tape during colonization time, yes.
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
#18971597 - 10/13/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything sounds perfect I don't know unless maybe you have a ridiculously dry rh in the room you're fruiting in. In which case you could run a humidifier in there. I run a humidifier 24/7 in the room with my tubs. The window unit air conditioning unit drys out the air in there really bad in the summer and my woodstove drys out the air in the winter
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: Stromrider]
#18971638 - 10/13/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I live in a cold northern climate, 63,50 latitude. The air gets drier during the winter time iirc, so you might be onto something here.
Another thing I've thought of is that I hate the cold, so I barely have any windows open when it's this cold.
Maybe my FAE just ain't that fresh? After all it's not called stale air reflux :P
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
#18971657 - 10/13/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stale air reflux
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spacechildo
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: Stromrider]
#18971682 - 10/13/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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stale might not be the right term, meant something along the lines of "air of poor quality". Like the smell of your bedroom when you wake up after a night out
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Stromrider
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
#18971692 - 10/13/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know what you meant
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spacechildo
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: Stromrider]
#18971747 - 10/13/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: I know what you meant
Good! I thought I maybe had a facepalm moment, because stale fluctuating air sounds rather contradictory.
I used to think English was no problem for me, but I get really insecure sometimes when trying to explain something a bit more intricate than daily life exp, and having to compose my own sentences and still make sense
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
#18971798 - 10/13/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Ok, another dial-in question: The surface of my myc dries up before 1 flush, so I have to mist it. But still, I got aerial myc that "melts" away when I mist it.
Isn't aerial myc a sign of too little FAE? Still, the surface dries up to the point it doesn't glisten anymore.
How can this correlate and happen at the same time?
Mistaken identity is a possible correlation. Sometimes contamination is mistaken for aerial mycelium.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18302534#18302534
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FrankHorrigan said: There are better and more telling signs of lack of FAE than aerial myc. I find aerial myc has more to do with genetics and (in the case of cakes) consolidation time.
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18971857 - 10/13/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The fruits also had some decent fuzziness on their feet. I figured it most likely came from too little fae, and tried to tweak the poly and fan. Only ended up drying out the top of the substrate. Maybe it's all genetics? And that these genetics demanded extreme amounts of fae? And that my air is either not fresh enough, or too dry?
It just doesn't make sense to me considering a mono should be set'n'forget.
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
#18971986 - 10/13/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well they're not totally set and forget. We say set and forget mainly because you don't have to mist and fan them. You have to get it properly dialed in and how you do this can vary depending on factors of your environment. You have to learn how to read the tub and adjust your polyfill and airflow accordingly
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: Stromrider]
#18976751 - 10/14/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Frank I have issue with this Quote:
. For the bottom holes on your mono, it's simple: you'll want to stuff them very tightly to keep fresh air flowing in the top and out the bottom.
Knowing that your sub produces heat and heat rises, this air should be exiting out of the top effectively pulling air in through the bottom holes.
Please explain the logistics to me here.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: maddchef]
#18976861 - 10/14/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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A fan is running in the room
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maddchef
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18977049 - 10/14/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Still seems like fae should enter at the lower holes and exit out the top. Meh if it works it works.
Quick question, they didn't have my normal tubs so I had to go with one slightly shorter lenghtwise but a tad wider and taller. My usual is a 90qt and this is a 105, do you really think the usual amount of holes will be sufficient or should I modify a tad? I normally run 2in holes.
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: maddchef]
#18977111 - 10/14/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personally I use the 105 quart atm, my only complaint on these units is the bottom isn't completely flat and the sub cracks if you move them around.
I go for the holes in four corners of the lid, with tyvek filter covering. I got sick of wads of polyfil falling in the tub... U use a smalk soup can heated up by fire (wearing a glove) and heat-poke perfect holes strategically. I like a 2.5 to 3 inch sub, so I add 3 holes on each side an inch above that and cover with tyvek.
I find the holes above the sub aid a good pinset.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: maddchef]
#18977240 - 10/14/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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maddchef said: Still seems like fae should enter at the lower holes and exit out the top. Meh if it works it works.
Quick question, they didn't have my normal tubs so I had to go with one slightly shorter lenghtwise but a tad wider and taller. My usual is a 90qt and this is a 105, do you really think the usual amount of holes will be sufficient or should I modify a tad? I normally run 2in holes.
Here's a whole thread full of stupid where I try to explain this across 4 pages, Citric gives the final word in the end
And yeah, it should work fine, I would configure it exactly the same
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18977363 - 10/14/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I might add an extra hole with the option to always cover it back up. Thanks. A lot more volume of air to be moved/displaced.
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