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EarthBounded
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Yields
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This question has been asked alot and I get the equations for mono yields. Here is the question if I had 10-15 Mono's cycling every month with coir and good genetics could i yield 5 pounds dry per month, or how many monos will it take.
I just need to know to construct this plan I am writing out
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you should at least try one mono before trying to do 10-15 at once. It sounds like you haven't tried one yet if you don't know the yield of your monos.
Do one, figure out the yield, take a good clone for identical results?
Too many factors affecting yield to really get a straight answer on this.
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mason man said: you should at least try one mono before trying to do 10-15 at once. It sounds like you haven't tried one yet if you don't know the yield of your monos.
Do one, figure out the yield, take a good clone for identical results?
Too many factors affecting yield to really get a straight answer on this.
Great point.
There feedback? I might start 2-3 at once just so I can make all the spawn and sub at once but good point,
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My first month of Monotubs I was running 3 tubs that were averaging about 4.5 dry on the first flush. I had about a pound and a half a month in. Getting them dialed in efficiently, and figuring out your other variables, such as deciding how many flushes you want before recycling the tub, or whatever, it should be feasible.
I would honestly be more concerned with the logistics. Can you get a pattern going and not be overwhelmed? I'd imagine at about the 6 tub point I'd be tired of using all my free time harvesting, dunking, PCing jars, etc..
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Re: Yields [Re: Nabuca]
#18976887 - 10/14/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, I got the free time... What my ideal number is about 6 -8 tubs going at all times. That is what i I have space for with proper lighting heat. I am using Franks simple coir tek and his bag method time shouldn't be too bad, I know everyone hates answering yield questions, but say the average dude is doin 6 monos a month what may he get.
How many flushes do you get on monos.
I have sucesfully done this exact sub prep with casing using FH simple coir just did casings not bags .
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EarthBounded said: I just need to know to construct this plan I am writing out
1: Grow cubes 2: ?? 3: Money!!
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EarthBounded said: Well, I got the free time... What my ideal number is about 6 -8 tubs going at all times. That is what i I have space for with proper lighting heat. I am using Franks simple coir tek and his bag method time shouldn't be too bad, I know everyone hates answering yield questions, but say the average dude is doin 6 monos a month what may he get.
He'll get whatever he can grow. You've been told it's an unanswerable question, and it is. Please stop asking it now.
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How many flushes do you get on monos.
One. I have horrible contam problems.
Walk before you run or you're just gonna waste time and money. You need at least a couple years of growing (and reading) under your belt before you even think about scaling up.
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36fuckin5 said: You need at least a couple years of growing (and reading) under your belt before you even think about scaling up.
Maybe you did. It's as easy as baking a cake you just have to think things through.
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bodhisatta said: It's as easy as baking a cake you just have to think things through.
Show me multiple consecutive dated pics with you running 10+ tubs at a time, that couldn't have been in one run then I'll believe it. I've been at this for a decade, I've done it on all scales. It is NOT as easy as baking a cake.
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Baking a cake is easy. Anyone can do it. If anyone could successfully pull off a big bulk grow than why do we see so many people posting issues, failures, and contamination problems?
Someone saying growing mushrooms is as easy as baking a cake tells me they haven't got past pf tek
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bodhisatta said: It's as easy as baking a cake you just have to think things through.
Show me multiple consecutive dated pics with you running 10+ tubs at a time, that couldn't have been in one run then I'll believe it. I've been at this for a decade, I've done it on all scales. It is NOT as easy as baking a cake.
You just said you're only getting one flush out of a monotub because you have contam problems. FH was asking questions and having troubles a little more than a year ago and look at where he is now. Running 10 monos is logistically and temporally difficult but the procedures for each one are the same
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bodhisatta said: You just said you're only getting one flush out of a monotub because you have contam problems.
I also have a dog that just moved in along with a gf who won't pick up after it, which is the source of my problem.
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FH was asking questions and having troubles a little more than a year ago and look at where he is now. Running 10 monos is logistically and temporally difficult but the procedures for each one are the same
No, it's really not the same at all. Cross-contamination becomes a serious issue, pasteurization of bigger amounts of bulk can be a bitch, just deciding which materials to use can be different.
When you're doing it big and you have a ninja contam in one master jar, it spreads to all your jars. Even if it's 40 jars, which it has been for me before. At the time, that was 3 weeks worth of not having money.
Trust me, things change when you go big.
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bodhisatta said: It's as easy as baking a cake you just have to think things through.
Show me multiple consecutive dated pics with you running 10+ tubs at a time, that couldn't have been in one run then I'll believe it. I've been at this for a decade, I've done it on all scales. It is NOT as easy as baking a cake.
I run 10 tubs at a time for the past 6 months....
And I have only been doing bulk for about a year and 2 months.
I usually get 2-3 flushes.
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Ninja contams. I cant wait till I get one just to see what all that malarkey is about
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Settle down elders, the only reason I want to run a lot of Monos is because I see a lot of photos here of cultivators running huge mono grows, so I will grow as many as I please, and ill eat them every second of the day, I am also interested in edible and medicinal.... I don't think my question is outta place.
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Walk before you run or you're just gonna waste time and money. You need at least a couple years of growing (and reading) under your belt before you even think about scaling up.
You- I respect your opinions and I always trust your advice same with you nothacker420.
I guess my question has been answered.
I heard if you get it down its like 5 hours a month, I have been nocking up jars, spawning,casing and printing, agar is my next read, im think ready to try a mono or two, plus I have a very clean, well maintained room.
I just fucking like growing mushrooms and listening to box of rain and so many roads, all im sayin
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I can't add too much but I can say that I just pulled 2oz dry off of one of my first 2 mini monotubs, 1st flush. The second one was a little over an ounce, so a big difference in yield.
My minis are 27 quart sterlites.
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This guy is trying to be the Heisenberg for mushrooms!!!
You can grow bulk, but can you make them 96+% pure?
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I didn't think ten monos dialing was that uncommon some trusted cultivator posted pics of like 15,
So sterile room, using FH Simple coir with a G2G MS syringes will ten mono's be possible? We have an extra 30 hours a week for the hobby.
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EarthBounded said: So sterile room, using FH Simple coir with a G2G MS syringes will ten mono's be possible? We have an extra 30 hours a week for the hobby.
It would be impossible to sterilize a room.
Fruiting is not a sterile process.
Yes, to your question tho.
Inoculate some grain jars, G2G them out, then spawn them.
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EarthBounded said: some trusted cultivator posted pics of like 15
You don't become a TC overnight, and you don't start running multiple monos overnight either.
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Simple coir with a G2G MS syringes will ten mono's be possible? We have an extra 30 hours a week for the hobby.
If you're gonna be running that many tubs, you shouldn't be using spores.
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Mush4Brains said: If you're gonna be running that many tubs, you shouldn't be using spores.
Says who?
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If you don't use spores than what the hell are you going to use? Mushrooms come from spores! Duh
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Notahacker420 said: Says who?
Some guy named Consistency. If you're going to be running that much I just don't quite think it is worth it if you're pulling less than optimal genetics. Obviously nobody here sells mushrooms but if you're going that bulk, which most people don't just do for fun, you're going to have better results making sure your have a clean culture that is a known performer. Just my opinion.
I've been moving around and living in unsuitable locations for cultivation for almost two years now, but I used to run MS tubs all the time since I had no agar luck whatsoever, and although it works, waiting 6-8 weeks to get a dud tub (sometimes yield wise, sometimes potency wise) was never fun.
On a side note I gave all my cult supplies to a friend so hopefully when I visit in two weeks he will have a nice little project started . But, he also is probably dumb enough to destroy my PC, or fuck up every other possible thing I gave him, so we'll see.
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Stromrider said: If you don't use spores than what the hell are you going to use? Mushrooms come from spores! Duh
Says the guy who doesn't even have SHIPs on his sweet one piece jar lids
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I know what you meant I was just poking fun
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I am obviously nube, first off I am using spores I ordered from a sponsor to do g2g for a more guaranteed end results, I have prints, but would rather not use them for this project, I am going to need to learn more about making my own syringes and don't want to risk poor sterilization for these monos.
I am using MS for starters than getting tissue and cloning, larger meatier mushrooms and I will use these genetics on future tubs.
I am not claiming to be a trusted cultivator but with over 250+ hours of research and my own grows, fails and successes I don't think trying a few monos is as overboard as some of you are making it sound.
I guess the main question what can a MS mono yield it obviously depends, as far as I understand a strong genetic mono would yield 8-14 oz dry? I will be using MS and FHs simple coir. I wonder if I would even get a Q.
If I am going to be playing around with mycology I want to step it up, its a blast
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EarthBounded said: I am obviously nube, first off I am using spores for a more guaranteed end results
I have no idea what that means.
There is no guarantee with spores, it is always a total crapshoot.
This is why we isolate single strains on agar.
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EarthBounded said: I am going to need to learn more about making my own syringes and don't want to risk poor sterilization for these monos.
Bulk substrate in a monotub gets pasteurized, not sterilized.
And for making syringes look here.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Sporeprinting-Syringes
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EarthBounded said: I am using MS for starters than getting tissue and cloning, larger meatier mushrooms and I will use these genetics on future tubs.

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EarthBounded said: I guess the main question what can a MS mono yield it obviously depends, as far as I understand a strong genetic mono would yield 8-14 oz dry? I will be using MS and FHs simple coir. I wonder if I would even get a Q.
You should get a qp no problem on the first flush, with half decent genetics.
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Notahacker420 said:
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EarthBounded said: I am obviously nube, first off I am using spores for a more guaranteed end results
I have no idea what that means.
There is no guarantee with spores, it is always a total crapshoot.
This is why we isolate single strains on agar.
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EarthBounded said: I am going to need to learn more about making my own syringes and don't want to risk poor sterilization for these monos.
Bulk substrate in a monotub gets pasteurized, not sterilized.
And for making syringes look here.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Sporeprinting-Syringes
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Bro I am completely baked and I think I mistyped it and fixed it after you read it, I meant I am using ten syringes I just got from a sponsor so I know they are sterile, I meant for starters I dont want to use my own liquid culture or syringes because I havent gotten that down yet but thanks for the links.
Completely aware of pasteurization I was reffering to how i was worried I couldent make my own sterile syringes out of my prints yet,
I know confusing as fuck.
Sativa got me nutz..
Thanks tho for the link and advice
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EarthBounded said: Bro I am completely baked and I think I mistyped it and fixed it after you read it, I meant I am using ten syringes I just got from a sponsor so I know they are sterile,
No you don't bro....and I think you mean aseptic.
If it was sterile the spore would be dead.
No spore syringe is ever 100% clean, and this also includes vendor syringes.
Shit can and sometimes does happen.
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EarthBounded said: I meant for starters I dont want to use my own liquid culture or syringes because I havent gotten that down yet but thanks for the links.
No problem...
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