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ekRe: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: tito123]
#18974092 - 10/13/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They all have stickers on them, there's nothing organic about a sticker even if it has a stylized O & says organic right on it.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: tito123] 1
#18974093 - 10/13/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Start going to local farmers markets.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Ballerium]
#18974107 - 10/13/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yup. My local produce is cheaper than bulk in the grocery store/WalMart, and the meats cheaper too. As well as tasting 100x better, which is what really counts for me.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: pcplease]
#18974111 - 10/13/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mmhmm! Its all about that taste.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Ballerium]
#18974164 - 10/13/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.S. Anyone who has never tried any freshly made butter... 
I get mine from the farmer's market too, and from a small grocery store during the off-season
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: KremrBigSikter] 1
#18974427 - 10/13/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cez said: Are they bad for you and if so why?
Bad for the environment, maybe. Organic possibly less so. It's the same type of plants, so nutritionally there's no difference.
Not completely true, its easy to unintentionally introduce genes that produce RNA molecules with bizarre properties. Such plant RNAs (microRNAs for example) can gain a 2'-methoxy group at their 3' termini and successfully resist RNAse digestion in the GI tract. From there they easily pass into the bloodstream and into the liver through the portal vein where they can shutdown certain pathways inside liver cells and do fucked up things like raise your LDL cholesterol.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: mellowparty] 2
#18974629 - 10/13/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: LiquidGlass] 1
#18974977 - 10/14/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, look at the world 70 years ago and what they considered safe. I don't have an opinion one way or another, but I think its probably a safer bet to eat food you grow yourself than food from some random person.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: fapjack]
#18975018 - 10/14/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: flickedbic]
#18975058 - 10/14/13 02:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: LiquidGlass] 2
#18975062 - 10/14/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass, it's not (all) about that French study, which was indeed for lack of a better word bogus.
You'd have to look into the other studies in detail to see if something is really going on and if so, if it has anything to do with GMO (and if so, what exact modification to what organism in what sort of dietary habit by what sort of animal...) And there you have it: the anti-GMO lobby suffers from being a-specific and dogmatic, thereby creating so much noise that any possible signal is lost.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18975229 - 10/14/13 04:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cez said: Are they bad for you and if so why?
Bad for the environment, maybe. Organic possibly less so. It's the same type of plants, so nutritionally there's no difference.
organic can be just as bad if not worse, the approved organic pesticides arent insect specific so they can kill everything that comes in contact with a plant including the beneficial insects such as pollinators and with commercially grown organics, a great deal depends on the standards set by the country of origin since the USDA doesnt regulate mexican or chinese certification, they also dont seem to regulate the US markets very well since 5% of the total products used on crops can be 'synthetic' in nature.
overall, organic is a scam
I live in Europe and it's pretty well regulated here. I'm sure you're right about pesticides, but non-organic fertilizers are unsustainable. You're basically turning your patch of dirt into a giant coir grow where the nutrients need to be refilled constantly, instead of a good old (but less fertile) ecosystem made out of dirt and chicken shit and bacteria and all that.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: FruitOfLife]
#18975413 - 10/14/13 06:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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FruitOfLife said: GMO is horrible for you. The only reason the FDA allows it is because of the $$$
Explain the mechanics behind this. Because from my underztanding, genetic material is genetic material.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: cez]
#18975418 - 10/14/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic?
Its better to eat fruit/veggies that are not organic, than to skip eating them altogether.
Most people by far eat too few greens per day. Fruit + veggies combined should at least be 2 pounds per day.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Asante]
#18975437 - 10/14/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My thoughts and views on fruits & vegetables that aren't organic are...they're cheaper.
That's all I got.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Asante] 2
#18975464 - 10/14/13 06:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Fruit + veggies combined should at least be 2 pounds per day.
I'm vegan and I don't eat close to that much. I'd agree on the veg part, but don't overdose on fruit. Too much sugar. Also, thanks to fiber:
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
#18975479 - 10/14/13 06:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree on not overdosing on fruit, the majority of that should be vegetables.
But you can eat some vegetables AS fruit. For instance I eat bell peppers as if they are fruit.
Bell peppers are insanely healthy. They contain good mineral, LOADS of vitamin C but above all else TONS of carotenoids which as ppotent antioxidants and anticancer substances that are also very good for the eyes and other organs, for instance Zeaxanthin.
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: abltsandwich]
#18975517 - 10/14/13 07:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: I only buy and eat certified organic produce. It's healthier for the earth and for me, and it helps local farmers who resist bowing to the GMO imperialists.
unless you're buying right off the farm then it's probable that you're still 'empowering the imperialists' because there's 3 large corporations that have the control of the organic market
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I know I'm not taking any poisons into my body when I eat organic whole foods. I can't believe people are putting inorganic poison into their bodies and don't even think twice about it. You guys need to examine your properties
lol... there's certified organic pesticides, they're actually more toxic than the stuff produced by monsanto and friends. do a bit of reading
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/PHC/psticid2.htm
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Asante]
#18975534 - 10/14/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I agree on not overdosing on fruit, the majority of that should be vegetables.
But you can eat some vegetables AS fruit. For instance I eat bell peppers as if they are fruit.
you eat them as a fruit because they are a fruit
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Re: What's your views on fruit/veggies that aren't organic? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18975546 - 10/14/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I agree on not overdosing on fruit, the majority of that should be vegetables.
But you can eat some vegetables AS fruit. For instance I eat bell peppers as if they are fruit.
you eat them as a fruit because they are a fruit
That's crazy talk. Fruit goes in a fancy bowl on a table. Vegetables go in a big clear tray in the fridge. Peppers go in the tray -> Peppers are vegetables.
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