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Re: Song writing methods [Re: Snotfish]
#18973470 - 10/13/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My songwriting process pretty consistently starts from sound design. I'll start with designing drums or a synth sound or whatever I want to mess with at the time. Then the vibe snowballs from there and everything grows around it.
I also smoke a lot of weed, I find it essential to my music making.
Beyond that I just try to flow with wherever the vibes I'm feeling take me.
With things I've written on guitar, it's all spawned from improvisation. I just play, and certain patterns become more prominent as I'm drawn to them. These patterns evolve into what could easily be recorded songs but I'm pretty lazy about doing that. Lately guitar has been for me a solely in the moment expression type biz, but I've gathered many different things I want to flesh out into actual compositions so I think I'll start doing that soon.
Here's my most recent work in progress, I made it right after watching Ghost in the Shell for the first time.
Needs a lot of work but yeah
[flash=480,81]http://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=[flash=480,81]http://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=[/flash][/flash]
Edit: Also click my sig for full albums. Get em in flac. They free.
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i come up with all my shit when im not thinking of lyrics to begin with.
see what i did there...
music shouldnt be forced... the most brilliant ones in our music history are the ones who can tell amazing stories through music!

ive been high all weekend and i havnt smoked in years... ya dig!?
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If you're writing songs for the sake of writing songs, you shouldn't be writing songs. If you have nothing to say don't say it. Just putting that out there.
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: King Klick]
#18973924 - 10/13/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't write the traditional way. I record everything so my process is different.
Usually I'll have something in my head that I want to produce, so I'll try to replicate that the best I can. If I have a bass line, drum line, guitar riff, or anything that I want to work with I'll record it and then jam off it to see what it becomes.
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: healing]
#18974910 - 10/14/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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healing said:
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healing said:
There are many ways to write songs. If you need help, you're not thinking creatively. And if you're not being creative, why bother?
I've studied a dozen genres of music, whenever I meet a new musician I'll pry their minds to see if there's anything to be learned from them. While jamming with anyone I'm always careful to listen and observe the way they approach the piece.
That's just the way of it, learning is like eating it never stops
I prefer individual exploration. I compose music singularly, so my improvisation and experimentation is the equivalent your jamming and observing. Writing music with others does not mean that each individual cannot be creative, but it does shift the burden. At least one member must be thinking creatively. Otherwise, why bother?
I've never written music with someone else and never will, but the way I personally write things anyone who would want to play with me has to compose their own parts or at least improvise them. Not very complicated, just a melody with some lyrics / chords strung over but past that its all improv. Tried writing with other people, was just a big headache. What was suggested above is studying with other people, settling with the first genre one learns is like staying in one's hometown when there's a whole world to explore.
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: King Klick]
#18975125 - 10/14/13 03:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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King Klick said: If you're writing songs for the sake of writing songs, you shouldn't be writing songs. If you have nothing to say don't say it. Just putting that out there.
tell that to Bob Dylan.
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healing
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: King Klick]
#18975134 - 10/14/13 03:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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King Klick said: If you're writing songs for the sake of writing songs, you shouldn't be writing songs. If you have nothing to say don't say it. Just putting that out there.
tell that to Bob Dylan.
As if notoriety meant anything in the world of music.
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King Klick said: If you're writing songs for the sake of writing songs, you shouldn't be writing songs. If you have nothing to say don't say it. Just putting that out there.
Tell that to Taylor Swift.
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: healing]
#18975169 - 10/14/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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my point exactly.
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: ganjfather]
#18975298 - 10/14/13 05:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blend
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There are many methods. A new method for each song is something to strive toward. The song writing process is just that - a process. There are many parts to it, and it shouldn't always be the same.
I am a musician and many of my friends are. We have all played in different bands together, but we're each very different in our approach to writing. I have a friend who is very reclusive in his style. He will hear something in his head. Just a couple of notes that connect a certain way. And he'll let it linger there a while. By the time he reaches for a guitar he has an idea of how we wants a part to go. He figures it out, records it on something, and then he listens. While listening he will hear what he calls ghost notes. Which are different variables that could fit around/behind/within the part. Eventually something drowns out the rest. And he figures it out. And goes through this entire process until the song is written. And by written I mean the song is set. He's a hard person to play with because he's a perfectionist. But his songs are beautiful, organic pieces. I'm now trying to play drums for him to get a demo together.
I work best with others. I'm good at building onto things. Filling in. I'm also a perfectionist in a certain way. I don't feel like anything is mine, but I want to make music that has such depth that no matter how loud it is or how closely you listen you can't possibly hear every single thing. I write my own songs too, but not so much that I feel as though I have a set process. I like playing with different people and feeling out our overlaps. When I play with the friend mentioned above, we sound similar to the band Red. But with others, my approach is different.
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: Blend]
#18975341 - 10/14/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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music is play, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... *insert long...*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... *inser...* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...
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Re: Song writing methods [Re: Blend]
#18975555 - 10/14/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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deadendeavor said: There are many methods. A new method for each song is something to strive toward. The song writing process is just that - a process. There are many parts to it, and it shouldn't always be the same.
I am a musician and many of my friends are. We have all played in different bands together, but we're each very different in our approach to writing. I have a friend who is very reclusive in his style. He will hear something in his head. Just a couple of notes that connect a certain way. And he'll let it linger there a while. By the time he reaches for a guitar he has an idea of how we wants a part to go. He figures it out, records it on something, and then he listens. While listening he will hear what he calls ghost notes. Which are different variables that could fit around/behind/within the part. Eventually something drowns out the rest. And he figures it out. And goes through this entire process until the song is written. And by written I mean the song is set. He's a hard person to play with because he's a perfectionist. But his songs are beautiful, organic pieces. I'm now trying to play drums for him to get a demo together.
I work best with others. I'm good at building onto things. Filling in. I'm also a perfectionist in a certain way. I don't feel like anything is mine, but I want to make music that has such depth that no matter how loud it is or how closely you listen you can't possibly hear every single thing. I write my own songs too, but not so much that I feel as though I have a set process. I like playing with different people and feeling out our overlaps. When I play with the friend mentioned above, we sound similar to the band Red. But with others, my approach is different.
Yeah I'm no perfectionist at all, after playing Classical and Indian Classical as well as Jazz, I much prefer an old school folk style of playing. By folk I don't mean American folk, just folk. Chords are third string in my mind, its all melody and rhythm, no pre-written parts, I reduce whatever I learn to a simple vocal format resembling just-tempered musical forms.
Still respect more precise methods, hundreds of my favorite musicians are very exact.
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