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Re: Muscaria tonight [Re: HarryL]
    #18975037 - 10/14/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Well document?

Where...




Indeed...


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Re: Muscaria tonight [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #18988331 - 10/16/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well i asked for ids on here and theyre pretty obvious


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Re: Muscaria tonight [Re: NW_SHROOMZ]
    #18989900 - 10/17/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sweating profusely without tripping? 
You didn't decarboxylate, dude.  Also why you are foggy-headed.

Besides if you don't drink your pee it is more like an "alteration" than a trip; but can still be a very nice tonic (if you decarboxylate).

(BTW I prefer shade drying/cooking before sunlight exposure.  Sunlight converts Ibotenic acid to inactive Muscazone, I want as much IA to become Muscimol before that sunlight exposure to knock out any remaining IA.)


Deer like the mushrooms, when hunting fly agaric you will see lots of animals have been eating them.  The affinity the reindeer have for the mushroom is especially known.

Regarding men drinking reindeer urine:
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Many of us have questioned this story, since it seems unlikely at best (how do you collect reindeer urine?). But intrepid psychonaut Andy Letcher (author of the highly recommended book Shroom: A Cultural History of the Magic Mushroom) has discovered there is indeed truth to this fabulous tale:


“This week I made my annual visit to the Abbots Bromley Horn Dance and there I met a reindeer herder, with herds in both Britain and Scandinavia. We got chatting and I asked him whether it was true that reindeer have a taste for human urine. Quite true. They’ll lap it up from the snow. And then, unprompted, he told me the following story.

Once, while living amongst the Saami, his hosts started feeding reindeer with fly-agarics, which the deer consumed with some relish. Waiting for nature to take its course, the fruits of micturition were collected in a bucket (strapped to the animals’ flanks perhaps?), boiled up in a pot (I’m guessing to concentrate the brew or perhaps to make it more potable) and shared round.”




-http://ravens-bread.com/2011/09/19/reindeer-and-amanita/

The reindeer also love to drink human amanita-filled urine, and so the herders kept some with them to keep the herd together.

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the urine contains more than five times as much of the drug as the body can assimilate.

This unsavory yet economical practice is well-documented among certain Siberian tribes where A. muscaria is widely used in both shamanic and ludibund contexts [von Bibra, p. 75].


http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_writings1.shtml

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Reindeer urine containing Amanita was consumed by the Siberian peoples. The active ingredient in Amanita is not metabolised by the body and thus remains in the urine. Some say this is the origin of the term ‘getting pissed.’ Reindeer excreted Fly Agaric was much safer than the raw product because one could experience the hallucinations without the negative elements such as nausea, loss of balance and sweating etc.

Not only that, reindeer would drink human urine especially if it contained Magic Mushroom. As a result herdsmen would carry their urine in oil skins to keep the herd together.


Read more: http://scienceray.com/biology/fly-agaric-and-the-red-nose-reindeer/#ixzz2hzS6H84n




Amanita (when properly prepared and utilized) can be a clean and powerful experience; an ecstatic journey, possibly far, but with a rapid return to clear-headed sobriety at the end.

Amanita is interesting in the more of the "bad" you convert, the more of the good you have (and the reverse tolerance aspects). 

It really is its own gatekeeper.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Muscaria tonight [Re: flickedbic]
    #18990190 - 10/17/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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(BTW I prefer shade drying/cooking before sunlight exposure.  Sunlight converts Ibotenic acid to inactive Muscazone, I want as much IA to become Muscimol before that sunlight exposure to knock out any remaining IA.)





You must be in Europe. I have heard of the European Amanita Muscaria's to contain Muscazone, but not North American Amanita Muscaria. Of course, I have never done any kind of chemical analysis on the Amanita's I find so I'm not positive on that, but I have always sun dried my Fly's and have never had any unpleasant experiences from them. Plus, Muscazone is an active chemical, just not as powerful as Muscimol.


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Re: Muscaria tonight [Re: isic]
    #18990312 - 10/17/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I picked my Amanita on the Northern California coast. 
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I have heard of the European Amanita Muscaria's to contain Muscazone, but not North American Amanita Muscaria.



Interesting;  I read Muscazone was a breakdown product of Ibotenic acid exposed to UV rays.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Muscaria tonight [Re: flickedbic]
    #18990409 - 10/17/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Interesting;  I read Muscazone was a breakdown product of Ibotenic acid exposed to UV rays.




This is the first I have heard of that, but it is interesting and I will have to look more into it. I pick mine in the Rockies west of Denver.


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