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NWlight
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innerspeaker1967 said: That we live in a society where the people who use psychedelics are made out to be stupid or immature because of the way the government says they are and people just believe them. When the reality is people who use psychedelics have a BETTER understanding of the world and in my experience are more mature, they see the world for what it is and know the facts while people who are against drugs spread their ridiculous lies and propaganda and according to the government they are the "smart" ones?????? Makes me so angry that we know whats goin on more then the people who think they do when they are actually wrong, very very wrong
THIS IS A TRAVESTY SIR
Looks like someone tried psychedelics recently 
welcome to the party
sorry but you'll soon find out that dumbasses use psychedelics too. and lots of smart people don't.
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zZZz
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you can use psychedelics and still make stupid decisions along the way. perhaps those who use them do in fact have a broader perspective on life, but that doesn't make them anymore responsible. It's all about staying aware and not being passive of your past mistakes. BITCH 
I do agree that societies view of psychedelics is rather distorted, but you can say the same for one who is trippin balls. People, and especially those in high office, should be spreading accurate information instead of demeaning them and locking up those who partake. Make knowledge and understanding, not war.
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dark3st
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: zZZz]
#18974818 - 10/14/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No they don't its just an excuse to get fucked up.
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18974819 - 10/14/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Funny how people get all high and mighty about drugs while puffing a smoke and pulling back a beer........ "Those stinking dope smoking hippy's are killed there brains". "Irene! Get me my oxy's and a can of beer!".. The contradiction's in our western society's used to annoy me . Best to be the change in the world you want to see. Saves alotta stress.
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moonrockmushy
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EVERYBODY IS FUCKED UP ALL THE TIME! Stop looking for scapegoats and acting like you're beyond fault. Do whatever the music going on inside tells you. Enjoy it or don't, but it is all you have to guide you so if you want to keep it going you must look for a rythmn and maintain it. Take care of it and pay attention to what it tells you. Drugs are merely tools.
The right group at the right time with the right tools is what we need to change direction, but we're all still too focused on improvising as individuals to actually commit to working together right now. I don't know you, but trust me, you are part of the problem.
It is one of the crechendos of the grand symphony which you and I are a part of. I think it is beautiful enough to listen to even if it seems endlessly complicated. Someday we will return to the silence between the notes and to me that doesn't sound so bad, but we gotta just play our parts I guess.
If you think things are black and white and you can make sense of life in a way that is Earth-specific, then you haven't taken nearly enough psychs to know. Tension is a big part of this game and it really gets to some people, myself included.
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they want us numb, not hard. b====== (<--one testicle penis)
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TrentBoyett
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: dark3st]
#18974846 - 10/14/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dark3st said: No they don't its just an excuse to get fucked up.
Maybe for some, but not for everyone, you are generalizing too much, sometime I take psychedelics to get messed up and have a good time, sometimes I take them to become one with nature, sometimes I take them because I'm trying to better myself, sometimes I take them just because I'm bored.
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larry.fisherman
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18974865 - 10/14/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Firstly I love to trip out. I would love to be able to be completely open and free with the world about my experiences.
Think about smoking, or even caffiene. Every one of them started because they saw or knew someone that did it and a high percentage of them are chronic users. I know there's a large difference, that's without question but socially acceptable is a big factor in how pretty much everything works. If suddenly we can trip out when we want, how we want, where we want things are gonna get weird man. People are going to give less of a fuck then they do now. I love the thought of people unifying against the governments finally, just like in the '60s, taking a fucking stand man. You never know, things could be fucking perfect, more self sustaining for a while but after the dust settles curruption is omnipotent and unyielding. Tripping has completely permeated the social system so it happens often. People start living their lives that way because it's normal. Suddenly we've forgotten our true goal because we got peace and love and shit. Jobs are filled but suddenly we have another burden on the economy, which we didn't need because baby boomers have turned in to a mass burden on the economy. The economy, the war on drugs, global warming; all of these things will not be tended to until the brink of destruction or the end of the economy, where we shed the American dream and start living for the future. Things need to be more drastic for this to work the way you want it to and I'm sorry to say that's not any time soon.
It's just a scenario but we have enough problems in the world right now than to figure that shit out. Things are good. TrIppers are supposed to know about inner peace and acceptance. We're all having fun now. Enjoy now, not then.
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dark3st
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18974867 - 10/14/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said:
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dark3st said: No they don't its just an excuse to get fucked up.
Maybe for some, but not for everyone, you are generalizing too much, sometime I take psychedelics to get messed up and have a good time, sometimes I take them to become one with nature, sometimes I take them because I'm trying to better myself, sometimes I take them just because I'm bored.
That's a little different then saying they talk to God even though its just electrical impulses in the brain.
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TrentBoyett
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I'm not even completely sure what you're saying but, have you looked at other places that have legalized/decriminalized drugs? Addiction, as well as the violent crime rate is down.
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larry.fisherman
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18974901 - 10/14/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crime rate isn't the world's issue right now. It's a factor but there's more important things. Also would you trip world be as wondrous and mystical is you knew it was completely commonplace and fully available? Not for me, it wouldn't. Most people can't get acid for instance. I can imagine the excited looks on people's faces when they have a real hit in their hand after waiting patiently. That's gone. It's like living beside a theme park it's just not as fun anymore.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18974914 - 10/14/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah the who fear of chaos if drugs are legalized is basically disproven that drugs have been a large part of human history like forever. It is mass hysteria as is racism and war. Feel free to try and heal the world, not to get too run down in the process if you're in it for the long haul.
Sometimes you can help a tree by training it in a certain direction, and the tree itself can move in different direction to find the sun, but we don't go around pushing trees every which way because in many cases it is harmful. You've gotta look at the circumstances and do the best you can. The idea that drugs are inherently good is just as dumb as the idea that they are inherently bad.
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larry.fisherman
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Drugs have been around for longer than we have and I'm sure we've been consuming them for near as long as our own existence. That being said the world is a much different place. We are all interconnected more and more all the time. It used to be spiritually, metaphysically. Now it's socially, electronically, in population. Nothing is cut and dry when it comes to these things. I just don't have much to complain about with how things are right now. I'm at peace. That's what it's all about, dude.
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TrentBoyett
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I believe in educating your citizens, rather than making them ignorant.
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dark3st
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18974935 - 10/14/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: I believe in educating your citizens, rather than making them ignorant.
But they can make their own decisions then
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Not everyone is mentally stable enough to use psychedelics, actually a lot of people aren't. I don't think its as black and white as you make it out to be. I think anything you learn on psychedelics you can learn sober, I just think they are a shortcut. I think the reason why many people see the world in a narrow way is because it works best for them. I've met some really closed minded people that eat psychedelics. I used to think the same way you did at one time, but the older I got the more shit I've seen and my opinion changed. I do think psychedelics can show people new ideas that they otherwise might have seen and I suggest every stable person should try LSD at least once.
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18974941 - 10/14/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I voted for communism.
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TrentBoyett
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Re: you know whats FUCKED UP? [Re: dark3st]
#18974942 - 10/14/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dark3st said:
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mjmihalov said: I believe in educating your citizens, rather than making them ignorant.
But they can make their own decisions than
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moonrockmushy
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I'm certainly glad to hear you're happy I'm feeling a little deprived, but definitely surviving and feeling like I'm doing what I can to consider the people around me. I guess thats got to be enough sometimes.
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Celestial Traveler
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moonrockmushy said: EVERYBODY IS FUCKED UP ALL THE TIME! Stop looking for scapegoats and acting like you're beyond fault. Do whatever the music going on inside tells you. Enjoy it or don't, but it is all you have to guide you so if you want to keep it going you must look for a rythmn and maintain it. Take care of it and pay attention to what it tells you. Drugs are merely tools.
The right group at the right time with the right tools is what we need to change direction, but we're all still too focused on improvising as individuals to actually commit to working together right now. I don't know you, but trust me, you are part of the problem.
It is one of the crechendos of the grand symphony which you and I are a part of. I think it is beautiful enough to listen to even if it seems endlessly complicated. Someday we will return to the silence between the notes and to me that doesn't sound so bad, but we gotta just play our parts I guess.
If you think things are black and white and you can make sense of life in a way that is Earth-specific, then you haven't taken nearly enough psychs to know. Tension is a big part of this game and it really gets to some people, myself included.
Haha yeah, there are so many people that want to be some badass revolutionary, and they think they've reached some secret enlightenment nobody else has found, when they can't even get over or be aware of their ego-fueled impulse that is driving them to pursue this "enlightened state." 
They're too busy looking down at the "sheep" to realize that some of the sheep are black just like them (if they are even black sheep to begin with).
Too many generals and not enough soldiers.
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