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my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks
    #18974555 - 10/13/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is a theory I have been thinking about lately.  I don't really know if someone has already  stated this idea, but this is just how I feel. 
After many trips in my life I began to believe that part of the reason people change so much and "don't come back" the same after trips is because of the mental load that is left on the person.  During a trip there are so many strong feelings and obstacles which you go through which are concentrated in a span of hours, which I feel cause this.  This intense experience for me seems to be only comparable to a traumatic or transformative ordeal in someones life.  No where else are you going to have so many revelations and changes made to your regular life than with psychedelics.  These journeys distort the regular way of seeing the world; visually and mentally, that after such an intense journey all these aspects effected by the trip are bound to change.  Like a soldier that comes back from war scarred or changed in many ways. 
Ignoring physical mental effects, I believe things like flashbacks are mainly caused by your psyche which has been completely altered and slowly adjusting to normal life after these experiences.  Lately I have been thinking about human perception and the way people view the world and in this case the mind adjusting from entirely different worlds and such powerful experiences from psychedelics.
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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: Fuckspice]
    #18974782 - 10/14/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just started a very similar thread, but I agree with you, these things are like cleansing agents for the subconscious, and everything that's ever happened to you is stored in there, and just like any cleansing, sometimes you gotta feel worse while its coming out, I think its important to keep going though, some things are so deeply rooted, psychadelics offer a great way to unroot many things. If your going to go to a shrink, what are they going to do? spend session after session trying to crack you open to find your wounds, its not that common to get truly to the bottom of your deeply dwelling issues, because a person has spent a lifetime resisting and developing powerfull techniques of protecting themselves from themselves, they will not let it get unhinged easily if at all, these molecules kick it up whether your ready or not, which is what a lot of people need, otherwise they will never get there, and after a strong dose, your life may very well be changed finally for that reason. not sure if that's entirely on point, but my thoughts.


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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: solo11]
    #18976187 - 10/14/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You know I was thinking something very similar to this after taking my first whole 3.5g of psilocybin. I had a great trip. It was both bad and good. I talked telepathically with a few different intelligence that told me the weirdest most wise things I never even thought of before. I'm still in a bit of shock that it happened to me. It feels JUST like a dream, I began forgetting everything once I was sobering up so I had to write it all down. It scares me that I was out in the woods talking to nothing, alone, and how it felt so real to me. As real as what i'm doing now. It was very comforting authorities talking to me, but I can't help but feel a bit weird about everything. I would really like to go back and  meet with them again but i'm not ready yet.


It is very overwhelming to have everything you are told is real ripped apart in front of your eyes in the most loving and spiritual way.


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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: AMPM]
    #18976342 - 10/14/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting thoughts, I like where this thread is going. I can definitely sense a big change in myself after using psychedelics for 5 years now. But what really changed me was my year-long binge. I was doing bi-weekly trips on either LSD, psilocybin and/or mescaline (whatever was available at the time is what I took) for about a year, and after I stopped I found myself in a state of COMPLETE disassociation with the world around me. I became isolated because no one could understand the things I was talking about. But I understood them. I understood them to be the most clearest truths ever presented to me in my life and I wanted to share what I had learned with the people around me. Unfortunately, I seemed to turn more people away from me rather than bring anyone closer. The ONLY person who understood me was a fellow psychonaut friend of mine. We would have conversations for hours (and still do) about what we learned on trips and how we could use that knowledge to make our lives better.

It's now been 6 months since my last trip. I'm still recovering from the year-long binge. I don't regret what I did, but I do think I should have taken things a bit slower. I am still processing trips that I had months and months ago. It's crazy. But now I feel myself steadily moving in an upward trajectory. Life is starting to make sense on a deeper level now and my ability to complete difficult tasks and "get the job done" day in and day out has started to increase tremendously. I now get compliments in school and at work for doing such a great job and I attribute that to my use of psychedelics. Before using them I was in a major state of depression, nearly suicidal. I also had anxiety problems that kept me from excelling in a lot of areas. Then, while I was using them, I was kind of in a frozen state. Most of this time was spent in utter isolation. It was rough, but now everything is starting to culminate; everything has come full circle now. I don't know how to explain it, you just know when you know. Anyway, awesome thread, these substances have definitely made an impact in my life.


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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18978623 - 10/14/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Last year i was overdoing it a bit with psychedellics, i took tons of Psilocybin, nbome, MXE, DMT, and other drugs.  This sorta "pushed me over the edge".  First beginning my psychedellic use actually gave me a sorta new self respect of a very different person than I used to be.


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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: Fuckspice]
    #18978859 - 10/14/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with your theory, I've thought the same thing.


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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18978963 - 10/14/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Except, real scientific studies actually suggest that psilocybin promotes neurogensis. There is no evidence to suggest psychedelics physically harm human beings. There only exists evidence to support the opposite. This is why psychedelic therapy exists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_therapy


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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: Fuckspice]
    #18979036 - 10/14/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is one aspect of psychedelics that sets it aside from any other drug. These substances are better when they are respected.


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Re: my belief on psychedelic life change and flashbacks [Re: solo11]
    #18979117 - 10/14/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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these things are like cleansing agents for the subconscious




Yes, but remember it's wash and rinse - don't forget the rinse. :thumbup:

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