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OfflineGreySatyr
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Musical Theory
    #18974297 - 10/13/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Let me start by saying, I could use a beer.

Anyways, has anyone taken musical theory and if so, will you please explain guitar chord formulas to a complete musical "noob" who has just picked up the guitar. Ive read up on it but it just isn't sinking in. I've watched a YouTube video or two but no one can explain it in a way that I can take it in.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18975295 - 10/14/13 05:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you gotta have a guitar in your hand first.

to know the sounds, then you can see the music better. maybe someone here can help you further.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18975328 - 10/14/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

there are many videos and tutorials on web, just google "guitar lesson for noob" or something like that.

I suggest to looking for a teacher near you. You'll learn faster :smile:


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: evenlock]
    #18976435 - 10/14/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well I know that developing an ear for it is important and that I am doing. I also tried the above posters suggestion and I do have teachers however none of them have taken any musical theory.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr] * 1
    #18976790 - 10/14/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Muhuhahahah. Just be patient my friend consistency is the key.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: Withinity]
    #18976803 - 10/14/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Check this book out its for free. I think he does a good job of explaining scales, modes and a general approach to the guitar all in laymen terms. You have embarked on a lifetime venture if your serious, but you cant digest it all in one night! :wink:

http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/moneychords/Guitar_omnibus_-_Fuzzball.pdf


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: Withinity]
    #18977159 - 10/14/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, I will check it out. And yes, I'm very serious about it. It's been three weeks and a day since I started learning. I'm pretty busy but I practice at least two hours a day whether I have to make it up the next day by playing 3 or by getting fifteen minutes in here and there, I do it. I've learned all the major and minor chords, learned about slash chords and barre chords. I know three scales, two chromatic and one 12 bar blues scale. I'm working on upstrums and keeping rhythm, I still can't play a whole song but I guess that's beside the point. I started out with horrible rhythm but that's getting much better. If I could count my strums I might actually be able to play something by now, haha. But I love it and I'm mad that I waited till this long to start playing. (24Yrs)


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18979931 - 10/15/13 03:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow dude you seem to be progression along fairly quickly. Just keep doing that put those bastards into muscle memory and then later the Rhythm will come naturally , it does not matter if you cannot play a song especially at this point. Just keep learning the things that songs are made up of. :smile:

I know what you mean about the age thing but i guess like myself you stumbled across the Guitar of your own accord opposed to the guys who start when they are really young since they have people around them into music heavily, but seems to be doing a good job motivating you anyhow.

What are you practicing on  , Acoustic or Electric? Do you have any preferred guitar styles?


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: Withinity]
    #18980253 - 10/15/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, quickly, huh? Awesome, I thought I was learning slowish or at an average speed. Although I'm pretty impressed at how fast I can play the 12 bar blues scale after learning it only two or three days ago. In fact I was surprised I could even remember it cause I didn't play it for two or three days after learning it, haha. I was trying to play some Johnny cash and some CCR. I wanted to learn how to play guitar early but after failing to learn trumpet and drums in middle school, my folks wouldn't buy me a guitar. Trumpet wasn't my thing and our music teacher seemed to have no interest in teaching drums, anywho back to the present...

I'm trying to decide what chords I should learn next. Are the major sevenths a good place to go? And finally to answer your questions, I'm practicing on an acoustic but I'd like to buy an electric down the road although I love both, I'll probably get an even better acoustic before I get a electric. I'm playing on a yammer hammer, I mean Yamaha F335. It's awesome for a beginner like me, good action, stays in tune, easy to play, only problem is I get a lot of buzzing, might just be a problem with the way I play. I'm kinda trying to develop my own style early on. I've been switching from using a pick to fingerpicking. As far as sound goes, I LOVE rock n roll and folk but I also want to incorporate a little bluegrass/country and bluesy thing with a little metal some psychedelia a well. I hope that answered your question, haha.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18985867 - 10/16/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

musictheory.net taught me all the music theory I know in one single night.

Seriously, in less than an hour you'll have learned all you need to know for understanding chords musically, which is much more satisfying than just simply playing patterns that have no meaning to you. Once you learn the order of chords for both major and minor keys (e.g. 1st=Major, 2nd=Minor, 3rd=Minor, etc) and learn a little bit about chord progressions (e.g. the super-common 154 progression where you'd play the first, fifth, then fourth chord in that succession, from an order like I just started to list) you'll be playing what you feel in no time.

Any questions feel free to PM me, I've been playing for like 8 years and am more than happy to help you out with anything I can.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: Phantomime]
    #18986162 - 10/16/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks! I'll check that out tonight! I will probably drop you a PM if I can't figure something out. Thanks again. 5 shrooms and welcome to the shroomery!


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18986673 - 10/16/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

wow, sounds really useful. :yesnod:


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18987100 - 10/16/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Interval
you need to understand interval
which is easier on a piano
once you understand interval and
figure out triads major and minor
then the rest flows

Music Theory for Idiots is an accepted classic on the subject.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: eve69]
    #18987109 - 10/16/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

true indeed. that's what the guitarist from Television said, you have to know intervals and then everything is downhill from there.

i never studied guitar, so, i don't know how much that is to be true, but it's pretty relevant anyways.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18988213 - 10/16/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, I've just book marked the site and I'm checking it out now. I'm also interested in learning other instruments but I'm not sure if ill pursue it. I definitely want to get an electric guitar down the road in a year or two but I'm also interested in playing keyboard/piano or drums, more interested in piano though and possibly a wind instrument, MAYBE. I also wish to learn how to. If I had lessons I think I'd be pretty good...maybe.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18988240 - 10/16/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i know you weren't replying to me, but i must say good for you man! :prettyflyforawhiteguy:  :fuckyeahdance:  :feelingfeisty:  :itwasgoodforme:


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18988315 - 10/16/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha, thanks. I love this, man. I just wish I could get with some folks who like the same music as I do. The folks I play with now play mostly blue grass and gospel.


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18988407 - 10/16/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well, that's something at least. :\


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18988850 - 10/16/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, it don't matter. I still learn a lot. If I start going with my cousin to festivals I will meet plenty of musicians. My cousin can play the hell out of just about anything but he's not too interested in rock but he's willing to teach me. I mean he plays some Clapton and some CCR, he probably knows some skynard, who knows?

I have a question for anyone who can play people are strange by the doors...do you repeat the plucking of the 6, 5, 4, 3, 4 strings or do you pick 6, 5, 4 then 6,5,4,3? Then do the a string magic...


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Re: Musical Theory [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18991745 - 10/17/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This shit is like quantum physics.


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