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TalesfromtheTrypt
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Bonsai
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I've been dabbling with bonsai for a little bit and have been really enjoying it, plus for cannabis it's really useful. You can pretty much catalog as many strains you want in a very small space and keep them vegetating at 18/6 perpetually, rather than donating one large space to a single mother. For the personal grower, you can't beat it. I have a really cool little salvia bonsai too, it really enjoys the root pruning.
Just wondering if anyone else uses this technique, and I wanted to put it out there a bit because I think a lot more people would be doing it if they knew that bonsai works on pretty much anything with roots. It seems counterintuitive, but plants can react very well to cutting off half of their roots, and it can even save them when they're rootbound, which is pretty much what bonsai is all about, keeping them rootbound without killing them. I keep mine in those small black square plastic containers, 2" x 2", it takes months for a cutting to hit just a foot, then I just cut most of it down and prune the roots back and let it start over again, of course providing new cuttings in the process if needed. I was out of town for a few months and just got back, they've grown about 4 inches and I just needed someone to give them a few drops of water every 1-2 weeks. So as far as cannabis, this is the way to go for people who have a tough time juggling their clones from grow to grow, or just grow from seed every time and get whatever pheno they happen to get.
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intelligentlife
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I don't know much about bonsai, only read few tek's how to grow bonsai plants. My purpose is to grow bonsai chili plants, I meant these decorative chili species. I have one very interesting with purple foliage.
first I think to grow it as large as possible in that at quite large pot, then I cut it and cut some roots smaller and plant to small pot and let it pup new branches from woody stock. This takes time and I had one bonsai years ago on the way but I forget the plant, it died to dehydration. 
Bonsai cannabis has been on my mind long time but in my country police will not accept that and I have to wait some time till I dare to grow bonsai cannabis.
I have one big cannabis grown years ago via re-vegetation and it got nice bonsai style stock but still I have add more root space when using re-vegetation instead of reducing the roots to make bonsai, but I would have make bonsai from it after harvesting.
 But I give it more fertilizers, roots space and grow new harvest what was way more bigger than previous. Maybe trough re-vegetation cannabis bonsai plants would be grown very nice with fat woody stock.
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kyoto
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I was planning on bonsaing my peppers in small pots for the winter. My plan was to remove them from their large containers, root prune them and put them in small containers. During winter I will continue to prune most of the new foliage growth back. 1 Month before spring starts i will boost up the light they receive to wake them up early, I'll also repot them to larger smart pots. Once temps are good i'll plants them outside and let it grow into a tree!
I might start a purple albizia julibrissin bonsai from a cutting I'm allowed to take from someone, it would be really good looking. Bonsai also works great on Papaver somniferum.
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Re: Bonsai [Re: kyoto]
#18953735 - 10/09/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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kyoto said: I was planning on bonsaing my peppers in small pots for the winter. My plan was to remove them from their large containers, root prune them and put them in small containers. During winter I will continue to prune most of the new foliage growth back. 1 Month before spring starts i will boost up the light they receive to wake them up early, I'll also repot them to larger smart pots. Once temps are good i'll plants them outside and let it grow into a tree!
I might start a purple albizia julibrissin bonsai from a cutting I'm allowed to take from someone, it would be really good looking. Bonsai also works great on Papaver somniferum.
That was great info!
I was planing to make, some sort of protection for my chilly peppers they are outdoors in the ground, bat now you make me think about pruning the roots and bring them inside.
I have a couple of questions, did they take root pruning well?Should i be more cearfull with waterings?Can i do that on bigger chilly peppers (60-70 cm high)?
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nannybooboo

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Wow, canna-bonsai. Ever since i saw a pic of one years ago they have always stuck with me as my ultimate ideal houseplant. Im just too lazy to obtain a seed or two and clone a female
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TalesfromtheTrypt
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intelligentlife said: I don't know much about bonsai, only read few tek's how to grow bonsai plants. My purpose is to grow bonsai chili plants, I meant these decorative chili species. I have one very interesting with purple foliage.
first I think to grow it as large as possible in that at quite large pot, then I cut it and cut some roots smaller and plant to small pot and let it pup new branches from woody stock. This takes time and I had one bonsai years ago on the way but I forget the plant, it died to dehydration. 
Bonsai cannabis has been on my mind long time but in my country police will not accept that and I have to wait some time till I dare to grow bonsai cannabis.
I have one big cannabis grown years ago via re-vegetation and it got nice bonsai style stock but still I have add more root space when using re-vegetation instead of reducing the roots to make bonsai, but I would have make bonsai from it after harvesting.
 But I give it more fertilizers, roots space and grow new harvest what was way more bigger than previous. Maybe trough re-vegetation cannabis bonsai plants would be grown very nice with fat woody stock.
That's a very nice plant! I'll have to upload some pics later. But yeah the legal status of cannabis is the only real deterrent with this, since they'll treat each tiny bonsai the same as a full on flowering plant.
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kyoto said: I was planning on bonsaing my peppers in small pots for the winter. My plan was to remove them from their large containers, root prune them and put them in small containers. During winter I will continue to prune most of the new foliage growth back. 1 Month before spring starts i will boost up the light they receive to wake them up early, I'll also repot them to larger smart pots. Once temps are good i'll plants them outside and let it grow into a tree!
I might start a purple albizia julibrissin bonsai from a cutting I'm allowed to take from someone, it would be really good looking. Bonsai also works great on Papaver somniferum.
That's a cool idea, I might try it sometime. It's funny, sometimes when I would do a search on grow related things I would end up on chili forums, and I see some pictures of different chili peppers in hydro catalogs, I always thought it was just innuendo for cannabis, to openly talk about growing without really talking about it. But I guess this is a legitimate hobby unto itself? Sounds interesting, I like growing all manner of things.
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nannybooboo said: Wow, canna-bonsai. Ever since i saw a pic of one years ago they have always stuck with me as my ultimate ideal houseplant. Im just too lazy to obtain a seed or two and clone a female 
Never tried growing cannabis as an ordinary houseplant, but salvia does pretty well like that, I have one just sitting in the living room near the lamp. That one actually used to be the top of my salvia bonsai.
Here's 2 links I've used as a general reference, one is general and the other is cannabis specific.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/10-mothers-fathers/7326-secret-2-inch-bonsai-mother-pictoral-guide.html
http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/growprin.htm
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intelligentlife
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Cannot update the pics of cannabis plant. I has taken 6years ago
Revegetation is very good to grow cannabis, after first harvest you can left few flower buds, then let them grown on 24hours, it grows several main branches from old flower bud. Then this can be done again and again.. Best thing with this is that plant don't need to grow roots and it grows cannabis shitloads more faster in soil than plant what should work to make roots.
Plant in my pics isn't tiny, it's 80x70cm wide and cause of re-vegetation but I made a point with this. You can grow fast plants in big container, then you can cut the roots and put it to small container and cut the plant for re-vegetation, chili plants doesn't need re-vegetation but cannabis plants can be grown like miniature trees.
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TalesfromtheTrypt
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No I meant I need to upload some pics. I might try a re-veg after a harvest sometime, from what I understand most growers frown on that but I like to experiment.
Salvia (Luna)


I've been growing this one out like a tree

These 2 were an experiment, they were identical in every way. The one on the left was cut back a lot more and the roots left unpruned. As a result, it's in a state of relative stasis, whereas the one on the right is metabolically more active.

This had its roots pruned and was transplanted into a 6 gal pot about 2 weeks ago for flowering, I put one of its sisters in there to give an idea of how small it used to be.
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anne halonium
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im a big believer in bonsai grow tactics. works to some degree, on all types of plants.
there are so many aspects to bonsai experiments, it really makes me feel like life is way too short.
i can think up decades of experiments, with all kinds of bonsai stuff, in seconds , that id like to see.
urban growers, would be well served, to study bonsai.
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intelligentlife
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You can get nice cannabis bonsai by growing it in a big container (10-20Liter)
Then cut roots to 1-5Liter container and plant have very nice wooden stock and cutting the growth tips makes it grow more branches and smaller leafs..
I wish I can grow bonsai hemp, but in here police doesn't even know difference between male or female plant, both are actually pure legal if not grown for drugs but it's not so easy... Even growing cannabis as bonsai at windowsill it is considered as drug farming.
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gopener
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Yeah, is like here, and i guess everywhere with no legalised laws.....
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