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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976307 - 10/14/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

if it helps any, we use wood for our heat. could that make the air more dry threw out the house?


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976329 - 10/14/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yes. It could be causing your cakes to dry too fast. Wet perlite gives humidity which rises and escapes which brings in more FA which helps the perlite to evaporate to give humidity and so on, in the circle it goes.

If your perlite is dry, this cycle is stopped and your cakes are just sitting in dry air.

Once you wet the perlite and let drain till it stops dripping, you should be good. When you mist the cakes, the over-spray helps rehydrate the perlite.

There's not enough info to really diagnose your issue, but I hope this explanation at least helps you understand what you may need to look at.

Like mentioned above, fans and/or to much air circulation in the room will also stop the RH/FAE feedback loop because it disturbs the natural flow of your SGFC.

There is no reason to avoid misting cakes directly. It doesn't matter if you mist the fruits either, you can hardly avoid it.


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976344 - 10/14/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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if it helps any, we use wood for our heat. could that make the air more dry threw out the house?




It could. That's why you have to look at the cakes and see if they need misting. Your misting scheduled may be slightly to vastly different than others.

Appearance is the only way to tell if they need misting.


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Re: FAE [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18976361 - 10/14/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

would it help if i bought a humidifier and let it run in the room im growing them in? maybe that would help. sure wouldn't hurt anything either i know. i didnt really think about misting directly over the cakes after a week or 2 either. i just watched a video saying to only do it once when you have the verm rolled all over them


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976415 - 10/14/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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would it help if i bought a humidifier and let it run in the room im growing them in? maybe that would help. sure wouldn't hurt anything either i know. i didnt really think about misting directly over the cakes after a week or 2 either. i just watched a video saying to only do it once when you have the verm rolled all over them





What's RH in the room to begin with? 

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Re: FAE [Re: Spongiform]
    #18976422 - 10/14/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

okay, ill go buy a hydrometer


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18980504 - 10/15/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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okay, ill go buy a hydrometer




Hygrometer :-)

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Re: FAE [Re: Spongiform]
    #18983458 - 10/15/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

this is my new setup hoping it will fix my FAE problem. above my terrarium i have a humidifier. in the box i have my hydrometer. it measures at 93% moisture. will this fix my problems?


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18983468 - 10/15/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

hygrometer*


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18983964 - 10/15/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol you can edit a post instead having to make a new one. I do it quite a bit for typos.
The humidifer should help with your RH. Did you calibrate your hygrometer?  Im not a fan of the digital ones, but as long as you know what it really is compared to what it reads, you can adjust accorddingly. Also, did you rehydrate your perlite? I do so to mine about once a month or more if needed. Make sure you have at least 6 in of space on all sides of the chamber for proper air flow. A foot would be better, especially if its in a closest. And if it is a closet, leave the door cracked or open whenever possible.
And lastly, tho I'm  sure you know, that chamber cant handle 30 cakes at once. So i hope you have plans for at least a 2nd chamber. Ive fit 24 cakes or 12 double stacks in a 105qt tub and F&M 10 times a day and it was still pushing it too much. Just my experience tho. Alot of this hobby is trial and error to see what works for your situation.


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Re: FAE [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #18991484 - 10/17/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

how moist should i keep it at? right now its at 93% i probably could get to 96 with my humidifier. what is the best moisture percentage?


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18994024 - 10/18/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

95-99%
Did you calibrate your hygrometer and did you rehydrate the perlite?


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Re: FAE [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #18995333 - 10/18/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yup i did


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18999275 - 10/19/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Looks good man.  Now you just need to make sure your lighting is good.  Looks fine to me from the pics and you want a roughly 12/12 cycle but doesn't have to be exact or perfect. 

Keep up the misting/fanning as needed and you'll be harvesting before you know it.


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Re: FAE [Re: Spongiform]
    #18999664 - 10/19/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, i'm using a 5400 kelvin light bulb. i should get a better one but this is my first time growing so im in no rush right now.


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #19001200 - 10/19/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

6-7k would be better, but honestly, 5400 will work fine.


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Re: FAE [Re: Spongiform]
    #19002346 - 10/20/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

whats the highest kelvin can you get out of a light bulb? do mushrooms grow any better/faster with the best?


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #19002365 - 10/20/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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whats the highest kelvin can you get out of a light bulb? do mushrooms grow any better/faster with the best?



Lighting Requirements of Mushrooms

Some mushrooms, such as the Agaricus species commonly found in grocery stores require no light at all. However, those commonly grown by hobbyists, such as Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushrooms), Lentinus enodes (Shiitake), Psilocybe cubensis, a hallucinogenic mushroom, and Hericium erinaceus (Lion's Mane) all require light to produce abundant, normal sized fruits. Experience has taught us that the light best suited for primordia formation and the development of fruitbodies is bright light with a color temperature of 5,000 Kelvin to 7,000 Kelvin. Fortunately, this type of light is easily obtainable at your local home improvement center in the form of fluorescent fixtures. For a small terrarium as described in this chapter, a single CFL (compact fluorescent) that screws into a standard light bulb socket will work very well. These can often be found in grocery and drug stores in every neighborhood. 15 watt CFLs will do the job well, but the package will probably have a large 60 stamped on it, indicating they produce light "equivalent" to a 60 watt incandescent light bulb. They're referring to lumens of output, not the frequency. Incandescent light bulbs are the worst possible choice for growing mushrooms, since they emit a 'red' light in the 3,000 Kelvin color temperature range.

The higher the color temperature, expressed in Kelvin, the closer to the 'blue' end of the spectrum the emitted light is. The lower the color temperature the 'redder' the light is. If you have a choice of fluorescent lamps, purchase those labeled 'daylight' since these have a somewhat higher color temperature than cool white. Daylight, sometimes called 'natural daylight' fluorescent tubes generally emit light in the 6,500 Kelvin range, while cool white fluorescent emits light at around 5,000 Kelvin.
If you have several terrariums stacked or otherwise near each other, you can use larger 2 to 4 tube fluorescent fixtures. These come in 48" and 96" lengths. Place the fluorescent lamps as close as you can get them to your terrariums without causing excessive heating. Species such as Shiitake and Oyster mushrooms prefer to fruit at temperatures in the upper 50's to mid 60's Fahrenheit (15C to 20C), while Psilocybe cubensis prefers to fruit at a temperature in the mid 70s to about 80 Fahrenheit (23C to 27C)
Most mushroom species don't mind a slightly warmer temperature during daytime than at night, so if your grow room is a bit colder than the temperature ranges given above, a little warming from your lights during the daytime won't hurt at all, provided you don't let the air in your terrarium get too dry. For cakes, try to keep the humidity above 95%.
Cased substrates are a bit more forgiving, but still try to keep your humidity above 90%. 12 hours on, 12 hours off has proved to be a great combination over a wide range of species. Of course, if you have a bright window near your terrarium, that will suffice, but direct sunlight for more than a few minutes per day should be avoided.
Disregard outdated advice in old books which is constantly repeated on the internet to colonize mushroom substrates in total darkness. Experience and rigorous peer reviewed studies have proved that exposure to low level ambient indoor lighting during spawn run and substrate colonizing will speed up the process, leading to full colonization up to a few days earlier than the same substrate would if colonized in darkness. In addition, mushroom mycelium develops a day/night circadian rhythm, so exposure to light from day of inoculation sets this process in motion, leading to earlier fruiting and harvest.


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