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    #18973896 - 10/13/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i had a post earlier about this. accept i have a different question. can the mushrooms stop growing from fae? what happens i open the window for a while and get some fresh air in the room with the ceiling fan on low? i actually made a monotub and my mushrooms were growing up just fine. recently i just put in my 2nd cake. could it be possible that my tub is too small for 2 cakes to grow? can mushrooms pull out of it and start growing normally again? the sooner i can fix my problem the better i would feel. any real good answers or options to help get the correct fae by simple things would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18973908 - 10/13/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Build a proper SGFC. Should provide all the FAE you need :shrug:


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Re: FAE [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18974106 - 10/13/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it is proper, if it wasn't why would i even make a thread? all my questions i asked and i get make a proper SGFC. i just measured all my holes and everything is exact. maybe a better (answers) would help from the (questions) i asked.


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18974132 - 10/13/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Based on the information you provided, I would lean more towards lack of adequate rH if you have stunting/stalling of fruits going on.  But the information provided was very little...


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18974145 - 10/13/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fine. Don't run fans or open windows as that will dry your properly built SGFC out. A SGFC works off the natural air currents in the room. Mushrooms will tend to grow tall and skinny will small caps in a high CO2 environment. 2 cakes will not be too much for a proper SGFC.

Most of the time when a new grower posts something like your OP with no pics, 9 times out of 10 he has a horribly constructed FC with no holes in the bottom or top and like 2 inches of perlite in the bottom. Sorry to make that assumption about you :shrug:


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18974218 - 10/13/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i actually made a monotub and my mushrooms were growing up just fine. recently i just put in my 2nd cake. could it be possible that my tub is too small for 2 cakes to grow?



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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18974365 - 10/13/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i actually made a monotub and my mushrooms were growing up just fine. recently i just put in my 2nd cake. could it be possible that my tub is too small for 2 cakes to grow?




Cakes don't get fruited in a monotub. You sure you have a SGFC?

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it is proper, if it wasn't why would i even make a thread? all my questions i asked and i get make a proper SGFC. i just measured all my holes and everything is exact. maybe a better (answers) would help from the (questions) i asked.




You said you fruited cakes in a monotub, Since you have confusion with that term I would be inclined to believe your fruiting chamber be it a mono/SGFC or hybrid is built awry from specifications.


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Re: FAE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18974868 - 10/14/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i did everything correct. i researched plenty out. i dont want any problems here. i am just trying to fix my problem when i have 30 other cakes about ready. i dont mind spending money to get the right stuff. i just want to know how i can fix this problem.


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18975829 - 10/14/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i did everything correct. i researched plenty out. i dont want any problems here. i am just trying to fix my problem when i have 30 other cakes about ready. i dont mind spending money to get the right stuff. i just want to know how i can fix this problem.




If you built a proper SGFC, have it in a room not a closet, with 4 inches of perlite in it and are misting then fanning 2-4 times a day then you don't have a problem other than maybe bad genetics :shrug: However, if you are not doing exactly what I just described, then you don't have a proper SGFC, or you are not running it right :shrug:

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Re: FAE [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18976079 - 10/14/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

there is my picture


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976095 - 10/14/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why is the lid cracked? That is going to lower your RH and as Gretchen suggested lead to the small aborted fruits you have. If that is something that you did just before taking the pic and are gonna close it back up, and if you have holes on the bottom of your SGFC, then I would have to suspect that poor genetics is your problem :shrug:


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Re: FAE [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18976100 - 10/14/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

darn it =( so there is really nothing i can do? guess not


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976101 - 10/14/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

FAE In of itself won't cause any problems unless it causes the RH to drop too low. 

I'd suspect that if your increased FAE is caused a problem it's because it dried out your fruiting chamber. 

That being the case you can decrease the FAE or increase the RH to compensate. 

Based on your picture, you have no need for a ceiling fan or open window to provide FAE to a shotgun terrarium.  In fact the ceiling fan will disrupt the SGFC's microclimate. 

So what I would do if I were you in this situation is first shut the fan off.  The window isn't an issue either way unless it screws with your temperatures too much. 

Pick off any remaining mushrooms off the cakes, dunk them again, rehydrate the SGFC and put them back in for another flush.

I didn't see a hygrometer in your picture.  If you don't have go  find an analog hygrometer and calibrate it then use it to ensure your RH is good.


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976109 - 10/14/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i have 1 questions too if you dont mind, one of my friends thought my terrarium was way too wet and i should mist it less telling me let it grow how all the other mushrooms grow outside. today is it recommended to get a moisture gauge? possible to over mist it?


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976142 - 10/14/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

if i dont pick the mushrooms would they even grow bigger or you think its a waste of time to see what happens in a few days and i should just dunk them like he said?


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976232 - 10/14/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can't exactly compare outside grows to inside grows.

Mist the cakes directly till they glisten, fan a little. When the cakes no longer glisten, mist and fan again. Keep repeating this cycle.

I can't tell from the picture, but your SGFC should be elevated to allow air to circulate up through the holes underneath.

Proper air circulation through the wet perlite is how you maintain proper RH and FAE at the same time.


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Re: FAE [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18976248 - 10/14/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, i use 4 cans on the bottom of all 4 corners to lift it up


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976256 - 10/14/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

so it's possible i wasn't keeping my perlite wet enough and that caused a problem? once i took the cakes out and i just dunked them i took my terrarium and ran water threw it. it feels a lot heavier then it did before.


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Re: FAE [Re: ithernet]
    #18976262 - 10/14/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i have 1 questions too if you dont mind, one of my friends thought my terrarium was way too wet and i should mist it less telling me let it grow how all the other mushrooms grow outside. today is it recommended to get a moisture gauge? possible to over mist it?

if i dont pick the mushrooms would they even grow bigger or you think its a waste of time to see what happens in a few days and i should just dunk them like he said?





It's unlikely it's too wet.  Imagine what outdoor mushrooms look like after it rains? 

I would avoid spraying water onto maturing mushrooms though, and aim to spray the rest of the FC. 

Keeping the perlite damp is vital. 

One thing I noticed was that the ambient RH in the room you're FC is in can have a big effect on how easy it is to keep your FC humidified.  When people give advice about how often or how much they often forget to mention what their conditions are. 

If it's nice and humid where you are, it won't need to mist as much.  If it's dry as a bone, you will either need to mist constantly or run a humidifier in the room with them or use some sort of secondary container/enclosure.   

If it's TOO humid, like your walls are constantly wet, your closets smell moldy, the air feels sticky, then you will need to run a dehumidifier.   

All depends on your local climate, the season and how your house/whatever is built and set up. 

As far as your current mushrooms go - once the veils start to tear go ahead and harvest everything, then dunk and continue on. 
Since you may have dried out the cakes, I'd go ahead and do that now.  Don't sweat it, it's not a big loss and nothing to freak out about.  Consider it a lesson learned and move on.


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Re: FAE [Re: Spongiform]
    #18976301 - 10/14/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i appreciate the help and advice your giving me


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