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Amanita virosa
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Lime bath I,m a believer
#18972638 - 10/13/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So we had six jars of brat g1spawn that showed green. My partner Chris decided to experiment with lime bath. He soaked rye straw (it had lots of berries in it) in ph12 lime bath for 24 hrs open air drip dryish packed into buckets green moldy trich spawned. Of course this would be ridiculous in a sterilized sub the mold would thrive, but in the high ph invironment the mold stalled and the oyster quickly over grew it. Now look at it. Yup. Moldy spawn grew these.
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Nice experiment and even cooler results.
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Jeff]
#18972684 - 10/13/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice! How big are the holes in your bucket?
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FernandoCastro
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Groundbreaking.
Thanks for sharing
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Amanita virosa
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: LiquidGlass]
#18972778 - 10/13/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: Nice! How big are the holes in your bucket?
1/2". I should note that there were clear patches of mold in all the jars but plenty of Myc as well. We made six buckets and they all worked even though some jars had a lot more mold than others. We are running more tests now and may go to this method for all oysters except kings. It would save us time money resources.
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thanks for experimenting on that ^_^ , really good to know.
we know of the green mold that it likes more acidic environments, but maybe oyster myc also excretes more acids by its own, neutralizing the ph in its direct environment and expanding faster?
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: forrest]
#18974655 - 10/13/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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DO you leave the lid on when growing
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: LiquidGlass]
#18974985 - 10/14/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's very interesting. What was the mouldy spawn ratio? (rushes off to rescue a couple of bags of minutely contaminated yellow G3) Was this an indoor grow?
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: solarity]
#18975168 - 10/14/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow, that is incredible. how bad was the contamination before spawning? thanks for sharing.
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: deadmandave]
#18975291 - 10/14/13 04:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This Lime method, when the mushrooms grows, are they considered organic?
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deadmandave
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: bik123]
#18975764 - 10/14/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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well limestone is a naturally occuring rock and hydrated lime is just cooked limestone. seems pretty natural and organic, to me.
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Thank you for sharing. Congratulations on your success.
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Amanita virosa
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: deadmandave]
#18978451 - 10/14/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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deadmandave said: wow, that is incredible. how bad was the contamination before spawning? thanks for sharing.
Visible mold in all six jars. Some worse than others. Yes hydrated lime is accepted in organic production. Spawn rate three cups in a five gallon bucket. Here's another picture.
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: snakebite]
#18978495 - 10/14/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very nice experiment!
I am currently soap soaking cardboard for an indoor oyster grow. I have never tried this, got the idea from Aloha, but the Ph goals are the same, just ass hardwood ash and I suppose even lye.
Edited by cubenpete (10/14/13 08:29 PM)
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: cubenpete]
#18978610 - 10/14/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ill be jumping on this bandwagon also....why not lime tek for kings?
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: t3chnobily]
#18979748 - 10/15/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buckeye did Kings in a bleach bath. I have tried several times to re-create that with lime and lime + pasteurisation and just got mould - even with sterile inoculation. I am still trying, I think I need a higher spawn ratio and a faster KO strain. - I'm going to revert to the strain he used rather than my commercial one.
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: solarity]
#18980215 - 10/15/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Really neat Amanita! This lime bath tech really seems promising, gonna pick up some lime today finally.
BTW would you consider that "Brat" oyster a blue oyster, or grey? What color are the mature fruits? Or you could just post pics of the flush when its ready
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Amanita virosa
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Aleon]
#18980233 - 10/15/13 07:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends on temp. At 50 degrees they look like this. They get boring grey above 70.
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worowa
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Works a treat for Kings, on straw or sawdust.
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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: worowa]
#18984810 - 10/16/13 04:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Any idea if you could use Sodium Carbonate(Washing Soda) instead of lime?
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