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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #20152691 - 06/18/14 11:30 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: mezzy jeb]
    #20615594 - 09/25/14 06:39 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Help!

I am most excited about all of this funky bath and shower business but there is a snag!

How to dehumidify coffee grounds!

Until now 90% of our substrate was coffee grounds (the other 10% being coffee parchment or husks). We have now sourced hardwood sawdust and the mix is more like 50:50.

Now sawdust will just drain itself after the bath but coffee grounds are another matter entirely! They tend to want to stay in suspension. I tested a small sample, allowing it to drain and squeezing it a very little and then baking it. It came back as 88% water.

The only solution I have thought of so far is to mix up the appropriate volume of lime water to hydrate the coffee to 88% and then mix it with fresh (unhydrated) woodchip and leave it overnight. Then in the morning put everything in the mixer and add the (super dry, 10% humidity) parchment to absorb any excess remaining before adding spawn and bagging up, any thoughts?

I will experiment to find out but the parchment is heat sterilised during it's production process and so can probably avoid the overnight lime soaking without contributing further contaminants.

Thank you, you heroes of our mycelial society, I can almost feel the clamp connections snapping into place!


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: mcchieftan]
    #20616043 - 09/25/14 08:55 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I think you're on the right track here.  As an aside, I've been playing with Agaricus blazei on horse poo and most of my problems with it are from the substrate being too wet.  So you want to avoid that and it's a lot easier to put water in than to remove it.

I think your two ideas of adding just the right amount of soak water for the coffee grounds, and to add something dry to soak up excess moisture are both worth following.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: drake89]
    #20618299 - 09/25/14 05:17 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Try putting the sub in net bags and let drain for 12 hours.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #20640133 - 09/30/14 01:00 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Hi - gearing up for my first oyster grow using a lime bath.

Am I good to use kalkwasser - lab grade calcium hydroxide Ca (OH)2 - for this purpose?

I've read up a little and it seems that it would, although it isn't the hydrated lime other people use and recommended by aloha and other threads i've read.

Thanks


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