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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19002824 - 10/20/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

anyone fruited yellow oysters on lime treated straw?  mine always stalled out, but I'm not sure if there was other contam


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19003299 - 10/20/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm running a second test batch now with Shitake S75 on limed straw. First test batch with King and Pink Oysters is showing mild contam, but I only soaked for 17 hours (read 16-18 was best) and didn't stir it occationally. I don't have a circulating system yet, but will build one eventially. Soaked the second batch for around 20 hours, but next batch I'll go for the 24 hr soak since you are having good results AV. Are you using High-Yeild brand lime?



Bonide hydrated lime from lowes. Even more surprising is that it has a 22% percent mg level. Isnt that supposed to be too high?  Just noticed that today. Brats don't care apparently.




Some oyster strains will tolerate it some won't. I had good success with the brats too on the same brand


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: lipa]
    #19033145 - 10/25/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here's pics of the Pinks I have growing on my first batch of lime pasteurized straw. Have to say I'm a believer too! :wink:



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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: ghiajake]
    #19034637 - 10/26/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pinning up nicely!!  Good deal!  Still waiting for someone to pull it off with kings.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19035093 - 10/26/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've got Kings going too. Moved them outside on my porch in a minitub to cold shock and fruit them. I'll posted pics if they do anything. The myc colonized about the same as the Pinks, albeit a little slower.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19036784 - 10/26/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Pinning up nicely!!  Good deal!  Still waiting for someone to pull it off with kings.



It's been done, I've got lots more photos, but crap internet.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18909806#18909806


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: worowa]
    #19053870 - 10/29/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cool beans!  How Did u get the sawdust back down to carrying capacity after soaking?


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19054586 - 10/29/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

While i can't speak for worowa, when i tried lime pasteurizing sawdust i simply hydrated the sawdust to field capacity with lime water. Let is sit for 18 hours and then mixed in the spawn.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: deadmandave]
    #19054662 - 10/29/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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While i can't speak for worowa, when i tried lime pasteurizing sawdust i simply hydrated the sawdust to field capacity with lime water. Let is sit for 18 hours and then mixed in the spawn.




Do you have a lime:water ratio you used?  I don't have a PH meter anymore.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Forrester]
    #19055572 - 10/30/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting ideas.

my only comment would be that most oysters recovers well and their speed for of mycelial growth is also an advantage.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #19056578 - 10/30/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Glad someone brought up the lime and sawdust. I was talking to my business partner the other day about trying this out. I would also love to know the ratio.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Forrester]
    #19056697 - 10/30/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you have a lime:water ratio you used?  I don't have a PH meter anymore.




Err.. I havent been keeping track so much of how much lime but the one time i tried it with sawdust i wrote down that i used 5800cc of water and 50 grams of hydrated lime. Tested with my ph paper it was a ph of 12. So something like 1:100, lime to water BUT that was a one time experiment and i could've added more than necessary.

btw i recommend ya'll get some ph paper - its cheap and eases my mind as to how much lime i have added.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: deadmandave] * 1
    #19056726 - 10/30/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

One pound of hydrated lime to 25 gal of water will make a ph of 12.  Assuming you keep the hydrated lime in an air tight container till you use it.  It loses its ability to change ph as it absorbs water from the air.  you can do the math to reduce this ratio in either direction.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19056823 - 10/30/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet, thanks guys.  Didn't know that about it absorbing moisture, good to know!


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Forrester]
    #19056872 - 10/30/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I had guesstimated the ratio to be 1 lb lime to 30 gallons of water. Glad to see I wasn't far off. I'll be getting pH strips for sure.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: ghiajake]
    #19056936 - 10/30/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can get the electronic ones pretty cheap now, we use one at my work and it's pretty accurate (although it probably wasn't a super cheap one).  I might give a cheapo version a shot for $15, I hate those papers.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Forrester]
    #19057570 - 10/30/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Let me know how the $15 one works Forrester.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19057887 - 10/30/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cool beans!  How Did u get the sawdust back down to carrying capacity after soaking?



If you read through that last thread, you'll see how I do it. Basically use too much solution, then tip off excess.

I got 1000's of pH strips for nix from alibaba...no need to be precise, just use a bit too much lime, once the water is saturated with lime, the rest of the lime wont absorb. pH starts around 13.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: worowa]
    #19057945 - 10/30/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Cool beans!  How Did u get the sawdust back down to carrying capacity after soaking?





I got 1000's of pH strips for nix from alibaba...no need to be precise, just use a bit too much lime, once the water is saturated with lime, the rest of the lime wont absorb. pH starts around 13.




this is my method.  just saturate it.  1qt/55gal seems about right.


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Re: Lime bath I,m a believer [Re: Forrester]
    #19058173 - 10/30/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You can get the electronic ones pretty cheap now, we use one at my work and it's pretty accurate (although it probably wasn't a super cheap one).  I might give a cheapo version a shot for $15, I hate those papers.



Don't waste ur money on cheaply ph meters they not work for shit. Use ph test strips. Very accurate. You can also use universal ph indicator in liquid form .  One drop in 1ml of solution will tell you the ph.


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