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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: Smushroom]
    #18990595 - 10/17/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Good info, thanks for the post!


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: futurefollows]
    #18990740 - 10/17/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

can you test for strich9 with this test too?


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: rikuni] * 1
    #18990853 - 10/17/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We did not yet use strichnine but yeah it should also work, if there is enough interest we could get strychnine standard and test it out.

Why are you interested in strychnine? If it is regarding LSD, that`s a myth, street LSD does not have it. Or is there another reason?


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: TLConscious]
    #18990891 - 10/17/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: rikuni] * 1
    #18991026 - 10/17/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Strychnine is not and never has been added to LSD. Also a dose of strychnine would not fit on a normal sized blotter.

Thin layer chromotography separates all compounds in a sample and produces various spots on the plate. You can identify most of them by comparing them to the known placement and size of dots for known compounds. You are only really limited by what as been tested for previously.


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: Smushroom]
    #18992234 - 10/17/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Niceee !! Hopefully this project goes well!!


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: rikuni] * 1
    #18994170 - 10/18/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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rikuni said:
well I just wanted to make sure that before I eat like a 10 sheet there is nothing on which will make a problem. :fasted:
The last cid I friend got is for freaking strong I dont know if theres other alkaloids on it too, maybe even str9




We`ve never seen any analysis of LSD showing strychnine in our many years analysing hundreds of samples or having access to other analysis databases.

You should be more worried about nbomes, DOx and bromodragonfly,  all of which are more commonly found sold as LSD and all of which can be easily tested with our kit :smile:


By the way guys and gals, any small amount helps, even if you don`t have the 150 for the full kit, small donations add up and can help us a lot :smile:

Have a good day!


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: TLConscious]
    #18994701 - 10/18/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Have you ever tested for GHB?
Have you posted this on other drug related forums aside dmtnexus? That would help gradually!
Also you should make in the future an option to refill your kit with the liquids and papers:thumbup:


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: TLConscious]
    #18998473 - 10/19/13 03:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

why is this a sticky??


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: friskie] * 1
    #19000083 - 10/19/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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why is this a sticky??





Because it is of interest to people in a lot of different forums, and accomplishes important harm reduction goals.


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: friskie]
    #19000100 - 10/19/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dstark said:
Have you ever tested for GHB?
Have you posted this on other drug related forums aside dmtnexus? That would help gradually!
Also you should make in the future an option to refill your kit with the liquids and papers:thumbup:




dstark.  We have not yet tested GHB with this particular system, but if there is interest we definitely can. I haven`t read of GHB adulterants but what is present is possible GBL precursor presence or excess base from bad synthesis. Mandelin reagent can test for ghb vs gbl, and excess base can be tested with simple pH strip. We once tested a GHB sample with pH 14, that would be very bad for one`s mouth, throat, etc!!! 

Regarding forum posting, we posted in psychonaut, bluelight, eboka and reddit. Drugs forum and icmag said no, so we respected their call.

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friskie said:
why is this a sticky??




We didn`t ask for it or did it, but we suppose the admins thought the project deserved some temporary extra attention since it could be beneficial for people here and is relevant to the subjects discussed in the website :smile:


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #19000548 - 10/19/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

friskie said:
why is this a sticky??



Because it is of interest to people in a lot of different forums, and accomplishes important harm reduction goals.




im under the impression that this is conceptual and looking for donations for a business start-up?  20k eu


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: friskie]
    #19000571 - 10/19/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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friskie said:
im under the impression that this is conceptual and looking for donations for a business start-up?  20k eu





Testing drugs via TLC is not conceptual, but the part where they are putting kits together is.  I hope they get the necessary money. :thumbup:


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19001111 - 10/19/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is way more awesome than the regular drug testing kits I bought a ton of... definitely interested!


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: friskie] * 1
    #19004445 - 10/20/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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friskie said:
im under the impression that this is conceptual and looking for donations for a business start-up?  20k eu




As Alan pointed out above, drug testing using TLC and other chromotography techniques isn't new but these guys are looking to raise the capital to start a company that will put the necessary components in a complete kit with very simple to use instructions and most importantly provide the data necessary to interpret the tests.

TLC doesn't tell you what you have, it gives you a result to compare to the known/expected result of various compounds. You can only figure out what you tested if you have existing data to compare it to using the exact same % of substance & solvent as well as using the same eluent. By putting the kits together they are basically standardizing the testing so that every day users can use the test and get accurate results without having to actually do research or understand the science behind it.


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: Smushroom]
    #19006825 - 10/21/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

great idea, hope this goes far and wide.

Thanks for taking the time and energy to put this project together.


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: TLConscious]
    #19039291 - 10/27/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OMG!

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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: broken]
    #19039749 - 10/27/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

@tlconscious:
you guys have to advertise this more, not just to users, but also to harm reduction organisations and drug policy reform organisations and to other, real possible backers. Try headshops, headshop chains and other retail places!


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19060286 - 10/30/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Great post!


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Re: Substance Analysis Kits: Down with adulterants! [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19073080 - 11/02/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Lord_McLovin said:
@tlconscious:
you guys have to advertise this more, not just to users, but also to harm reduction organisations and drug policy reform organisations and to other, real possible backers. Try headshops, headshop chains and other retail places!




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