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#18971446 - 10/13/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Government shut down?
Other then the soldiers who die fund thingy (that I just heard about so not that sad)is the only thing that bothers me. Other then that I'm feeling nada
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: dark3st]
#18971476 - 10/13/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the government defaults on its loans, we'll all be feeling it, a lot.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: NetDiver]
#18971485 - 10/13/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: If the government defaults on its loans, we'll all be feeling it, a lot.
I'm really worried about that, too.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: NetDiver]
#18971492 - 10/13/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: If the government defaults on its loans, we'll all be feeling it, a lot.
the government takes in way more than what they owe every month anyways, all just a big scare tactic by the extreme left wing crazies
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: B_BOY]
#18971516 - 10/13/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just gonna assume you don't know anything about economics. 
The government's credit rating was downgraded in 2011, just because we came close to default, and the stock market fell by 17%. Economists generally agree that a default would be disastrous.
Right now, Republicans are basically holding the country economically hostage because they don't like a law that was already passed.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: dark3st]
#18971521 - 10/13/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a teacher who refers to the shutdown quite often , but in no way do i beleive it affects my life and I'm not sure if it will because its too early in the process of Shut down To notice any effects.
I don't think ill be totally effected unless some post apocalyptic shit happens which I doubt because all the shut down shit is , is a scare tactic to get us jingled.
If the governments closed .. were open for buisness.
I just wish rebuplicans would leave the president alone and focus more on The congress who' has more control over this issue in the first place.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: NetDiver]
#18971529 - 10/13/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you mean like the sequester cuts? that is already law, BUT the Libtards wanna change that now, Do you actually do any research yourself? Or just go by what Obama and Harry Reid say? search for some facts, then think before you post.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: B_BOY]
#18971543 - 10/13/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone has any idea where the gvmt should cut or how it could generate extra revenue?
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: B_BOY] 1
#18971551 - 10/13/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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B_BOY said: search for some facts, then think before you post.
You could take that advice yourself. Of course, using the term "libtards" already makes it clear that you're some 16 year old Glenn Beck groupie in the high school republican club. Credibility = 0.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Patlal] 1
#18971558 - 10/13/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No one say hemp or marijuana. Something original
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: dark3st]
#18971585 - 10/13/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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$100 says we don't default and everything will be okay.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Shroomerited]
#18971621 - 10/13/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomerited said: $100 says we don't default and everything will be okay.
Of course.
The Republican will fold at the last second just to make Wall Street lose a shit ton of money by creating panic.
Hopefully, they won't be stupid enough to let the country default.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Shroomerited]
#18971633 - 10/13/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomerited said: $100 says we don't default and everything will be okay.
Don't worry, I got that one.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Patlal]
#18971639 - 10/13/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everything is driven by panic. People should just stop freaking out over every little thing that happens. This is no exception.
The only way the economy could be hurt by this is if people panic. So just don't do that.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Shroomerited]
#18971644 - 10/13/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not panicking at all. I knew this would happen maybe 6 months before it happened. It was written in the stars.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Patlal]
#18971645 - 10/13/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: I'm not panicking at all. I knew this would happen maybe 6 months before it happened. It was written in the stars.
I know you aren't. Most people aren't right now. But it's a possibility. People just shouldn't panic.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Shroomerited]
#18971674 - 10/13/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Politics is so easy to predict.
First thing you have to know:
- People lose IQ points when they are in a crowd - Congress is a crowd. - Everybody has a different agenda and are out for themselves, therefore conflict everytime - When there's conflict within a large group of people, it becomes childish arguments - Childish behavior creates childish reaction
Basically, all you need to do is predict how a child would react to a situation he doesn't like and you can predict every move of any house of commons in the world.
When you take a politician out of the crowd you'll realize that what he says actually makes sense. Put him back in the House and suddenly he acts like a 4 year old.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Patlal]
#18971708 - 10/13/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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is shroomery a crowd?
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#18971710 - 10/13/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: is shroomery a crowd? 
I think this question answers itself lol
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Patlal]
#18971727 - 10/13/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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whatever, taking the ball and leaving
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: NetDiver]
#18971765 - 10/13/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: I'm just gonna assume you don't know anything about economics. 
Right now, Republicans are basically holding the country economically hostage because they don't like a law that was already passed.
The house sent a compromise to the White house on Friday, but were rejected. It would have funded the government through November, but would have required talks about budget cuts (Why do we need budget cuts? It's not like we are spending a trillion dollars more than we take in every year.),reducing one of the ACA's proposed taxes on medical devices (As if taxing something would make it more expensive LMAO!),as well as concessions to put initiation of the ACA on hold for another year which is the same break Democrat leaders gave to corporations.
The White house turning this down is idiotic especially with all the political theatrics they have been pumping out over this "shut down" destroying our country. They get most of what they want, but that isn't enough. Obviously it is the Republicans who won't compromise.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-government-shutdown-budget-talks-break-down-20131012,0,5617806.story
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#18971767 - 10/13/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: whatever, taking the ball and leaving
Except the ball has a chain... . . .
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: HarperLewis]
#18971809 - 10/13/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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HarperLewis said: The house sent a compromise to the White house on Friday, but were rejected. It would have funded the government through November, but would have required talks about budget cuts (Why do we need budget cuts? It's not like we are spending a trillion dollars more than we take in every year.),reducing one of the ACA's proposed taxes on medical devices (As if taxing something would make it more expensive LMAO!),as well as concessions to put initiation of the ACA on hold for another year which is the same break Democrat leaders gave to corporations.
The White house turning this down is idiotic especially with all the political theatrics they have been pumping out over this "shut down" destroying our country. They get most of what they want, but that isn't enough. Obviously it is the Republicans who won't compromise.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-government-shutdown-budget-talks-break-down-20131012,0,5617806.story
The president shouldn't need to compromise on a law that was already fucking passed. If he did, then either side could just pull this bullshit every time there was a law they didn't like.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: NetDiver]
#18971829 - 10/13/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: The president shouldn't need to compromise on a law that was already fucking passed. If he did, then either side could just pull this bullshit every time there was a law they didn't like. 
There have already been changes made to the law even though it was "already fucking passed". We elect representatives to make changes and run our government, the house take over by Repubs was a symptom of many peoples dissatisfaction with the passing of the ACA.
We are after all talking about this document.

I'm sure there couldn't be any improvements to be made in a document such as that.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: HarperLewis]
#18971836 - 10/13/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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HarperLewis said:
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Samurai Drifter said: The president shouldn't need to compromise on a law that was already fucking passed. If he did, then either side could just pull this bullshit every time there was a law they didn't like. 
There have already been changes made to the law even though it was "already fucking passed". We elect representatives to make changes and run our government, the house take over by Repubs was a symptom of many peoples dissatisfaction with the passing of the ACA.
We are after all talking about this document.

I'm sure there couldn't be any improvements to be made in a document such as that.
The guy who wrote these regulations must have wanted to kill himself.
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
#18971858 - 10/13/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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this thread is a classic example of the low-info society that is controlled by our media.
The government takes in enough revenue each month, before it borrows or 'prints' any money each month to pay the interest on the debt (about 8% of the budget,) defense, mandatory programs. i.e. SS, retirements, etc.
The EXECUTIVE BRANCH--i.e. the President--sets priorities for spending. If he decides the money available is to be used for things other than paying the national debt, that is his decision as The Executive of the country. It is he alone who prioritizes the revenue and it is his decision who feels the pain.
There is no reason to default unless the president decides to default. Period.
Realize also that some programs included in the budget should have money in trust funds. Social Security, and Medicare, retirement benefits for federal workers--all were funded by individual contribution.
Oh, there is no money in the SS fund, or retirement funds? Thank the whore in the clown outfit with compulsive spending disorder who THE PEOPLE elected, who raided that piggy bank so he could load the pork trough up for his (put your favorite corporation/political entity/voting block here) enablers who help him get reelected.
They should take a chainsaw to the biggest bloated sectors of the federal governemnt--starting with defense--and trim huge sections of fat out. It will be painful, but it is necessary but don't hold your breathe. Everytime any program gets even the smallest cut people begin squealing. Because everyone wants everything cut except THEIR program. They should throw out every shyster politician who refuses to get with the progam and act responsibly.
Who is to blame? Go take a look in the mirror. THE PEOPLE are the ones who keep allowing these turds to get their hands on the country's piggy bank.
Note I haven't blamed anyone in particular, neither democrat nor republican. They are all equally worthless in politics. I'm standng by for flaming daggers because there are those that think that an overbearing, bloated governent that promises you Utopia while they have their snoopers up your ass 24-7 is somehow the only answer to the Country's problems.
Is it? It is the government elected by the people that have caused the problems in the first place. Do you want more of the same?
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: HarperLewis]
#18971873 - 10/13/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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HarperLewis said: There have already been changes made to the law even though it was "already fucking passed". We elect representatives to make changes and run our government, the house take over by Repubs was a symptom of many peoples dissatisfaction with the passing of the ACA.
Changes should be voted on, not forced by using the national budget as leverage. Just because the republicans were voted into office doesn't mean the populace wanted decisions made in this way. Every poll I've seen shows that Republicans have the lowest popularity right now that they've had in years, and that most people blame them exclusively for the shutdown -- as they should.
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#18971879 - 10/13/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
Note I haven't blamed anyone in particular, neither democrat nor republican.
Feel free to blame Canada
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Re: anyone feeling the rffects of the... [Re: Patlal]
#18972264 - 10/13/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its all parties. Blaming one is cockeyed thinking.
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