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ipappnasei


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Could someone check my shrooms`?
#18971420 - 10/13/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So i uncubated the shrooms probably 3 weeks ago in my cupboard. im using a temperature clock that turns off at 29.5°C and on at 28.5°C. Some jars are now almost finished at the bottom and some are not :/ also the jars is condensating... did i do something wrong? why is it taking so long? what should i do now?`




also im scared from taking them out of the jar. i had some water soaked jars that i took out of the jar after one week and i had biggest troubles getting them out of there... it wasnt moving at all had to use a knife. is there some trick how to get them out without trouble?
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18971474 - 10/13/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you have holes in your lids? I don't see any thats why I asked. If there are no holes there is no place for the CO2 build up to escape and that will cause your jars to stall out and stop growing.
And correct me if I am wrong but did you use perlite for the top layer? You should use dry verm. Did you use jelly jars? Do they have any type of shoulder on the jars at the mouth? That might be the reason you had such a hard time getting them out.
I am going to suggest that you learn the basics and try again. Growing mushrooms can be pretty easy if you follow the PF tek to a T. Check out these videos http://www.mushroomvideos.com/ Everything you need to know can be found here.
Good Luck to you
Edited by Willy Wonka (10/13/13 09:33 AM)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: Willy Wonka]
#18971518 - 10/13/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You want widemouth 1/2 pints for pf tek otherwise it will take longer to colonize and may stall out due to poor GE at the bottom. Condensation is normal but why did you use perlite for the top layer? Check out the link that Willy posted, that will be your ticket
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#18971547 - 10/13/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: You want widemouth 1/2 pints for pf tek otherwise it will take longer to colonize and may stall out due to poor GE at the bottom. Condensation is normal but why did you use perlite for the top layer? Check out the link that Willy posted, that will be your ticket 
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Pastywhyte said: You want widemouth 1/2 pints for pf tek otherwise it will take longer to colonize and may stall out due to poor GE at the bottom. Condensation is normal but why did you use perlite for the top layer? Check out the link that Willy posted, that will be your ticket 
yea guys so basicly the problem with the perlite was that i run out of vermiculite.. the bag was saying 4 liters and it were only about 3 liters of vermiculite :/
i made 9 more jars yesterday and covered with vermiculite :P
yes those are jelly jars and they dont have any shoulders at all. maybe it was due the fact that the jars were really fully soaked with water?
i made 4 holes in each of the jars.with a small nail. is that enough?
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Stromrider
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#18971552 - 10/13/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah that's enough holes
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: Stromrider]
#18971569 - 10/13/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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what about 2 holes? is that also enough ?
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18971607 - 10/13/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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okay guys i bought that guide from that guy. downloading it right now.
but im still gonna try and grow out of those jars as they seem to be allright to me.
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Stromrider
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18971615 - 10/13/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah grow them. No reason to give up on them. They should work OK.
And yes 2 holes will suffice
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: Stromrider]
#18971634 - 10/13/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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how much fresh mushrooms should i expect a jar?
those are 440ml jars with cambodian and b+ spores.
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Stromrider
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18971695 - 10/13/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anywhere from 0 to 10 grams a cake 
I'd say on average about 4 or 5 grams a cake
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18971728 - 10/13/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You might try to get a closer picture. That looks like bacteria contamination. What I'd suggest at this point is to dump the cake out of the jar and wash it under the faucet of anything you can rub off with your hands.
Before you do that, smell the cake. If it smells sour or like dirty socks or garbage, vinegar, etc., it is bacteria as I suspect. If it smells like fresh grocery store mushrooms, it's OK. Dunk and roll as shown in the brf tek video. RR
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#18971753 - 10/13/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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im still downloading the videos :/
where exactly does it look like a contamination?
its all perfectly white and smells like champignons lol...
not trying to be rude
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18971761 - 10/13/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh and by looking at that video it might be that i press the substrate way to hard in the jar :/
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18972524 - 10/13/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is that perlite your using in the top of your jars??????
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: FruitOfLife]
#18975604 - 10/14/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes... :/ as i said before i run out of vermiculite during process and the next store is about 2.5hours away so i just used perlite :/ shouldnt be too bad ?
any other opinions on why it takes so long?
or just opinions on the general looks?
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spacechildo
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18975679 - 10/14/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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wrong size/shape of jars, really hot temps encouraging nasties to grow.. just to mention a few.
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: spacechildo]
#18975710 - 10/14/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i just thought than bigger the jar than larger the profit :/
will buy small jars for next time. but the problem now is im out of syringee. if i manage to still get shrooms out of these i could make a new one right?
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ipappnasei


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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18975729 - 10/14/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh and my most important question. i now bought the video of that mushroom growing guy.
that soak the cake for 24hours in water thingy. should i really do that or is there chance it will break in pieces since its so big? also the problem about the jars coming out so difficult is probably because i pressed it in too hard. is there something i could do? like place it on the lid for 24hours before taking out? or when it breaks is it somehow able to recover?
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spacechildo
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Re: Could someone check my shrooms`? [Re: ipappnasei]
#18975742 - 10/14/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you plan to buy short wide mouth jars anyway just break the jars you've got now instead of breaking the cakes!
And yes you should do the soak in water thingy 
You can make a print of your mushroom to come, yes, there's tons of different methods used.
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