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canid
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970662 - 10/13/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't be embarrassed, be wise.
I don't think you ate an amatoxin containing species, and as I said, I don't know if our blushers have the same haematoxin as the european blusher. If they do, I believe the expectation for any poisoning would be acute anemia.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970668 - 10/13/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, you will knoiw for sure if youre fine in the next few days or so. Since some of them thar nasties like to have a delayed response to severe symptoms. Your dead way before you ever 'feel' ill.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970679 - 10/13/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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if you think you may have ingested a toxic mushroom, why wouldnt you seek medical treatment? waiting until you feel sick before you decide to go to the hospital isn't very wise. if you are worried, get help. what would it hurt? you have been given the best advice possible, listen to these guys, they know their shit. good luck
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: canid]
#18970686 - 10/13/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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canid said: Don't be embarrassed, be wise.
I don't think you ate an amatoxin containing species, and as I said, I don't know if our blushers have the same haematoxin as the european blusher. If they do, I believe the expectation for any poisoning would be acute anemia.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970691 - 10/13/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It wasn't some random 'shroom. It was indeed an amanita, and I am certain it was a "blusher", just didn't feel an effect, so I vomited the small amount up. I think I over reacted, it was a small amount dude, and a small amount of a blusher, even if it was bad, couldn't hurt. Like the size of a quarter in your palm.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970692 - 10/13/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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who eats a mushroom BEFORE identifying it? bad call sir I hope your ok
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Zombi3]
#18970701 - 10/13/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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for the last time lol.. I identified it myself, just felt no effect.
I over reacted.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970707 - 10/13/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Either Amanita flavorubescens or Amanita flavoconia I'm thinking flavoconia because it had no fuzzy stipe and had yellow/brown warts. The fact I felt nothing, or more placebo freaked me out, but I kept forgetting to keep in mind the actual quantity I had..very little.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970725 - 10/13/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ignore the people who aren't being particularly helpful for the moment. We'll just pretend they aren't here.
Anyway, I don't think that you should expect a muscaria like effect from any of the blushers.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970727 - 10/13/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah man i know it wasnt some random shroom and its obvious that you over reacted. you asked for help on a public forum and i mearly was stating my opinion. take it or leave it. but i meant no offense.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970733 - 10/13/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: Smoking these to test further wouldn't be a bad idea would it?
Yes it would be a bad idea, especially since you're still not sure of the species.
Stop being an ignorant twit and post pictures of any mushroom you're going to ingest or smoke in the future. If you can't do this then do yourself and the wider mushroom community a favour and stop all mushroom related activities. Take up knitting or some other activity where your mistakes wont kill you or your liver.
Sorry to sound harsh but you obviously miss the gravity of the situation you put yourself in.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: karode13]
#18970741 - 10/13/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm trying to get technical with this.. I have been researching these mushrooms for a year now. I know a good bit about these.. I'm just asking if these toxins can be ingested through smoking.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970751 - 10/13/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nobody here is going to tell you to smoke unidentified mushrooms. If they did I, or another moderator, would reprimand them.
Now if you posted a picture and it was properly identified then we could tell you what to do with it.
If you want to be technical about it then post a picture and fill out an id request.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: karode13]
#18970777 - 10/13/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll borrow a camera tomorrow. I just have too many of these growing in my area to disregard them and not try to ident. them.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994] 1
#18971181 - 10/13/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stop your entire life and go to the ER right away. Only when they clear you, you're OK. You need liver tests and supportive treatment.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Asante]
#18971199 - 10/13/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Going to the ER would be the safest option from a medical viewpoint. However, if it was indeed one of the blushers (which it seems to be, going by the red staining) and he ate only 1/8 of a cap, then a trip to the ER would have economic ramifications that are much worse than any sickness that would ensue if the case is untreated.
OP, did you cook the mushroom or did you eat it raw? The haematoxins in blushing amanitas are broken down when they are cooked, eliminating the risk of anemia.
Either way, lots of overreaction once again in this thread.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18971234 - 10/13/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: for the last time lol.. I identified it myself.
no. you did not!! if you did, you would know what it was, which you do not!! you can't even give a half-assed description of said mushroom.
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Hexendude1994 said: It wasn't some random 'shroom. It was indeed an amanita, and I am certain it was a "blusher"
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Hexendude1994 said: Either Amanita flavorubescens or Amanita flavoconia I'm thinking flavoconia because it had no fuzzy stipe and had yellow/brown warts.
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Hexendude1994 said: Can anyone just help me figure out the exact one I ate instead of the toxins so we can verify if it was poisonous or not? It was brown/gold capped, brown warts, white gills, white stem that bruised red. Amanita flavorubescens or Amanita flavoconia has to be one of those two
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Hexendude1994 said: The only reason I'm questioning if I ate the correct one is because I can't find any dark gold (mind you kind of metallic gold) and I'm not feeling very messed up.
all of the above statements completely contradict each other.
once again, please do not claim that "I identified it myself."
then, not only did you not learn your lesson from almost potentially killing yourself... you want to smoke said mushroom?? 
i don't want to be mean dood...but, you are a fucking idiot.
learn to respect fungi, or as stated, take up knitting!!
i'll introduce you to me grandmother...she can teach you!!
with that being said, if you DO want to TRY to id it...
you can start here: US - Great Smokies - Amanitaceae.org.
to me...it sounds like you might have eaten Amanita amerirubescens (which is likely toxic when consumed raw).
be more wise and cautious in the future buddy, with everything you do!!
good luck.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: bloodworm]
#18971349 - 10/13/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cant help but laugh
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18971353 - 10/13/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: I tried to not be an idiot and read the guide instead of listening of retards say "look for a mushy u'd see on mario"
Not saying Nintendo should do field guides or anything but if you were using that image you couldn't go far wrong.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: canid]
#18971526 - 10/13/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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canid said: Don't be embarrassed, be wise.
I don't think you ate an amatoxin containing species, and as I said, I don't know if our blushers have the same haematoxin as the european blusher. If they do, I believe the expectation for any poisoning would be acute anemia.
If you get hemolytic anemia, icterus would follow shortly (i.e. yellowing of the whites of your eyes, dark yellow and/or brownish urine).
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