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Kookat195
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Help with identifying possible A. Pantherina
#18971118 - 10/13/13 05:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me and a friend recently went for a small hunt and found a mushroom in the grass near a residential area. It appears to be a Amanita Pantherina but i cant be sure as it has a few look alikes. Please help. It was our only yeild for today.
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Re: Help with identifying possible A. Pantherina [Re: Kookat195]
#18971163 - 10/13/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can you post a clear picture of the base of the stem? Also the region it was found in can help narrow things down quite a bit sometimes.
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Re: Help with identifying possible A. Pantherina [Re: lsms]
#18971278 - 10/13/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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it is not A. pantherina.
if you are in eastern North America, Amanita flavorubens is worth checking out.
taking clearer, better lit photographs of the ENTIRE mushroom (which includes digging up the ENTIRE stipe base) would make identifying your mushroom much easier.
also, a little information on your locale and the habitat would go a long way as well...
Edited by bloodworm (10/13/13 07:38 AM)
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Re: Help with identifying possible A. Pantherina [Re: Kookat195]
#18971573 - 10/13/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will include more pictures soon. But it was found on the east coast in Georgia in a grassy area near a street. The stem has seperated from the cap. At the bottom of the stem when cut, is a dark red color.
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Re: Help with identifying possible A. Pantherina [Re: Kookat195]
#18971654 - 10/13/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not psychoactive, most likely something similar to amanita amerubescens, do you have any pictures of the bulb/base where it connects to the ground? This is an important piece for identifying any amanitas to species.
Edited by RiparianZoneJunky (10/13/13 10:22 AM)
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amanita amerubescens
it doesnt completely look like, its to risky, i would just throw it away.
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Re: Help with identifying possible A. Pantherina [Re: mahniti]
#18971820 - 10/13/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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amanita amerubescens
it doesnt completely look like, its to risky, i would just throw it away.
Hence why I didn't say that it was definitely that species. Besides, that species is questionable at best as an edible anyway. If OP wants an ID he is free to find more, post pics of the base and get pictures of the stem in better lighting. A lot of people here like to try to ID mushrooms to species even if they don't plan on eating them.
If it wasn't clear OP, my post was in no way meant to be taken as license to eat that mushroom, you should always wait for a consensus by several people with at least one of them having a "trusted identifier" badge.
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mahniti said:
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amanita amerubescens
it doesnt completely look like, its to risky, i would just throw it away.
Hence why I didn't say that it was definitely that species. Besides, that species is questionable at best as an edible anyway. If OP wants an ID he is free to find more, post pics of the base and get pictures of the stem in better lighting. A lot of people here like to try to ID mushrooms to species even if they don't plan on eating them.
If it wasn't clear OP, my post was in no way meant to be taken as license to eat that mushroom, you should always wait for a consensus by several people with at least one of them having a "trusted identifier" badge. 
1. it is spelled Amanita amerirubescens. 2. genus names are always capitalized. 3. Amanita amerirubescens is edible when cooked.
it's really impossible to tell what this is from the provided photos...
but, i think it resembles A. flavorubens a bit more than A. amerirubescens. the latter is said to stain "pinkish," while A. flavorubens can become "wine-colored" overall.
"Rain will quickly wash pigment away from the yellow-orange pileus. Bruising is sometimes reported only from the stem base for this species, but it commonly bruises throughout the fruiting body. Occasionally, especially in areas with dense root mats, specimens will be found in which the entire pileus is wine-colored from bruising during expansion through the root mat. RET has found one specimen with the cap intensely bruised (image 2) before expansion as described by Coker. The cap was dark red brown in the center and elsewhere ranged from brown to pale yellow brown at the cap margin. The cap warts were in concentric rings and somewhat concolorous with the surrounding cap skin, but always with a distinct yellow tint."
just some thoughts...
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Re: Help with identifying possible A. Pantherina [Re: bloodworm]
#18971958 - 10/13/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bloodworm said:
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RiparianZoneJunky said:
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mahniti said:
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amanita amerubescens
it doesnt completely look like, its to risky, i would just throw it away.
Hence why I didn't say that it was definitely that species. Besides, that species is questionable at best as an edible anyway. If OP wants an ID he is free to find more, post pics of the base and get pictures of the stem in better lighting. A lot of people here like to try to ID mushrooms to species even if they don't plan on eating them.
If it wasn't clear OP, my post was in no way meant to be taken as license to eat that mushroom, you should always wait for a consensus by several people with at least one of them having a "trusted identifier" badge. 
1. it is spelled Amanita amerirubescens. 2. genus names are always capitalized. 3. Amanita amerirubescens is edible when cooked.
it's really impossible to tell what this is from the provided photos...
but, i think it resembles A. flavorubens a bit more than A. amerirubescens. the latter is said to stain "pinkish," while A. flavorubens can become "wine-colored" overall.
"Rain will quickly wash pigment away from the yellow-orange pileus. Bruising is sometimes reported only from the stem base for this species, but it commonly bruises throughout the fruiting body. Occasionally, especially in areas with dense root mats, specimens will be found in which the entire pileus is wine-colored from bruising during expansion through the root mat. RET has found one specimen with the cap intensely bruised (image 2) before expansion as described by Coker. The cap was dark red brown in the center and elsewhere ranged from brown to pale yellow brown at the cap margin. The cap warts were in concentric rings and somewhat concolorous with the surrounding cap skin, but always with a distinct yellow tint."
just some thoughts...
Apologies for the grammatical errors. Most guidebooks do not enthusiastically recommend eating A. amerirubescens due to possible hemolytic toxins, though yes, it is eaten by many people. Without better pics, it's still a big
BTW, that's a super cool description of A. flavorubens bruising from its expansion through the mat.
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